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Locked Re: Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io

 

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Re: Best policy for group ownership change #groupowner

beth nathan
 

This discussion seemed closest to what's troubling me at the moment.
I am owner on two main groups; I'll call them A and B.? I want to stop participating in A and gave it another Owner over a year ago.?
When I ask to Unsubscribe, after it asks me to Confirm, I get back a message saying ... "500 Because you are the only owner of this group, you cannot leave it."

I'm NOT the only owner of Main-A but there are two subgroups I had created (neither of which flew) where I show as sole owner.? So, I'm thinking that I can't leave Main without cleaning up those two subgroups -- deleting them seems the cleanest.? There's Help on Deleting Groups.? Can SubGroups be deleted the same way, without impacting the Main group?? I want to be sure I'd be leaving Main-A intact and functioning under its other Owner and assume this would have no impact on Main-B where I am the sole Owner.

Beth


Transfer from Yahoo #transfer #yahoo

 

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I am not able to invite [email protected] because Yahoo says:
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Moderator can't invite or add new members
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What now?
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Thank you.
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dd


Re: SEARCH Key Words

 

Gene,

Simply what I would like to happen is if someone searches for a word, say "n scale atlanta", they would find our group and all other like groups in Atlanta.

?Currently that search gives no results. Searching for "n scale" (excluding the quotes in the ?search box) turns up twenty-seven groups apparently related to model trains. Adding California to it, as in "n scale California" gives three.

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Re: SEARCH Key Words

 

Simply what I would like to happen is if someone searches for a word, say "n scale atlanta", they would find our group and all other like groups in Atlanta.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Gene,

So the search will search group descriptions for "keywords"?

?I may be missing what you mean by "keywords". I think the search is just a text search of the listed groups' Descriptions.

I think it is deficient in some ways, it seems to do only whole-word matches (no partials - searching for "key" won't match "keyword"). It defaults to a match of all of the words in the text box, but you can use OR to make it find "keyword OR keywords"). I think it has the same basic features as the message search:

Shal
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Re: SEARCH Key Words

 

Gene,

So the search will search group descriptions for "keywords"?

?I may be missing what you mean by "keywords". I think the search is just a text search of the listed groups' Descriptions.

I think it is deficient in some ways, it seems to do only whole-word matches (no partials - searching for "key" won't match "keyword"). It defaults to a match of all of the words in the text box, but you can use OR to make it find "keyword OR keywords"). I think it has the same basic features as the message search:

Shal
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Re: Non subscriber's messages moderated instead of rejected (bug?)

 

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Hmm¡­ the problem seems to be gone. Now the system behaves like expected. I think what happened was I changed the settings and then immediately start sending messages, but it seems like it needs some time for the setting to ¡°take.¡± That might still be a bug, but it is not going to give me or my group any problem at this time.

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David

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gerald Boutin
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Non subscriber's messages moderated instead of rejected (bug?)

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On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:23 AM, David Soemarko wrote:

I set up a group with restricted membership, and the ¡°allow non subscribers to post¡± is unchecked.

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A non-subscriber sent in a request for membership. The request went to the admin but was never approved. The requesting member also received a message from groups.io saying that he could now receive messages, but if membership approval was needed, he would hear from the group/admin.

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Now the requesting member sent a message to the group. I would expect that he should get a rejection since his membership was never approved, but instead, his message still came through waiting for the Admin to approve. This doesn¡¯t seem to be an expected behavior as it seems to allow spammers to spam the Admin.

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David

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?David,

There are settings for this under Admin / Settings / Spam Control.

You have "New Users Moderated" checked. Uncheck it. Either that or reject the application as soon as the request comes in.

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Re: Let med get out of here...

 

Michael,

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How do I delete my group DSH, so I can get out of here?

Scroll down to the very bottom of that group's Settings page, then click the red Delete Group button on the lower right.

?Do this for each group you created (unless you've promoted someone else to own it).?

Also, unsubscribe yourself from any other groups you may have joined (such as this one).

?... and now I want to delete my account... which is not as easy as it is to get in here....

Click on your name on the upper right of any Groups.io page to drop-down the menu and select the Account item. Click the red Delete My Account button on the lower right.

That should pretty much do it.

If you've logged in to Groups.io with more than one email address then you'd need to do the above for each email address.

Shal


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Re: SEARCH Key Words

 

So the search will search group descriptions for "keywords"?

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Gene,

How do I make my group easy to find using a "keyword" type search?

?Use the keywords in the ?group's Description.

For the search box in Groups.io's directory I don't think there's anything else to do.

For web search engines like Google there are likely some best practices; such as using the keywords correctly in context in the text of the description. Google tends to down-rank keywords that are in lists of keywords or when HTML tricks have been used to hide the keywords from human view (small font, white-on-white, etc.).

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Let med get out of here...

 

Hi

I was looking for an alternative to FB for a little group for four anglers. This "groups.io" doesn't seem to fit my needs for at group, and now I want to delete my account... which is not as easy as it is to get in here....

How do I delete my group DSH, so I can get out of here?

Regards
Michael


Re: SEARCH Key Words

 

Gene,

How do I make my group easy to find using a "keyword" type search?

?Use the keywords in the ?group's Description.

For the search box in Groups.io's directory I don't think there's anything else to do.

For web search engines like Google there are likely some best practices; such as using the keywords correctly in context in the text of the description. Google tends to down-rank keywords that are in lists of keywords or when HTML tricks have been used to hide the keywords from human view (small font, white-on-white, etc.).

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Locked Re: Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io

 

On 7/26/2018 1:22 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

?Mark resides in California, the groups.io
<> servers are rented from linode
<>, a company headquartered in Philidelphia.
Groups.io also rents cloud storage from Amazon.

The .io domain <> registrar does not
restrict its customers to just British citizens/organizations.
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?Shal?
Groups.io Inc is a US company registered in Delaware and with offices in
California. For further (minimal) details, go to the search page on the
California Secretary of State's website, search by Entity Number, and
enter C3710824.



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SEARCH Key Words

 

How do I make my group easy to find using a "keyword" type search?


Locked Re: Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io

 

Dan,

One more wrinkle to all of this.? I believe the ".IO" domain refers to "British Indian Ocean Territory".? ?

?That's correct.
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So, I assume that Mark, or at least this service, is not based in the USA
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?That's incorrect. Mark resides in California, the servers are rented from , a company headquartered in Philidelphia. Groups.io also rents cloud storage from Amazon.

The registrar does not restrict its customers to just British citizens/organizations.
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and that Groups.IO is designed for global use (maybe targeted to the US, but global nonetheless.?

?This is also correct, although localization for languages other than English are is on the long-term to-do list.
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?Shal?


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Re: long term viability

 

I?d underline each of Marv?s words and add the hope that Mark will still have many wonderful years and - in case of such unforseen calamities - has assigned a digital heir.

Victoria


Locked Re: Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io

Dan Hartford
 

One more wrinkle to all of this.? I believe the ".IO" domain refers to "British Indian Ocean Territory".? ?So, I assume that Mark, or at least this service, is not based in the USA and that Groups.IO is designed for global use (maybe targeted to the US, but global nonetheless.? So, one has to consider that the "rules" or established principles?in other countries may not align with those in the USA.? So, I guess what I'm saying is that what our Supreme Court has or will say is only one voice in a global community of many voices.

However, I do agree with the comments that it is really up to Mark.? If his decision goes against the principles of some group owners they can certainly choose to move to a different service.? ?For example, I have chosen not to do business with some companies whose political stance is contrary to mine and who have brought those views to their business practices.? But that's just me.

Dan


[mod note: Groups.io is U.S. based and is intended for global use.]


Re: long term viability

 

As someone who has had to evaluate product technical architectures for potential acquisition, groups.io gets a high rating from me. (Disclaimer: in my job, I would never make this statement without spending weeks or months reading code, talking to engineers, reviewing error logs, etc. I have had no such access-- nor would I want it. That was work!)

In terms of the product itself, I have no fears. I have also been impressed with the development process-- the way fixes and upgrades are evaluated and rolled out, security issues are addressed, etc. All this is to the good.

I must admit, I mutter a prayer for Mark Fletcher's health and safety on occasion. As far as I can see, groups.io is a one man operation, which explains a lot of its efficiency, attention to detail, and maybe some of its quirks. But single person products may not survive for long after that one person is run over by a truck or steps into an open manhole.

For me, groups.io's quality far overrides this concern, but if I were doing an evaluation, I would have to point out this vulnerability.
Best, Marv


Re: re time for emails to arrive

 

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WOW, it was blazingly fast !!!
I have attached a jpg of the results for the email which took 2 hours.
Am I interpreting it correctly when I think that the email was held up for 2 hours at my ISP before it was sent to groups.io?
If so, I have some real ammunition in my dealings with their tech support.
Win
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Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] re time for emails to arrive
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 05:52 AM, WBennett wrote:
Exactly how much do I paste in to the analysing tool? All of it??
Yes, you'll need all of it to be sure the analyzer will give you the correct information.

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Re: Non subscriber's messages moderated instead of rejected (bug?)

Gerald Boutin
 

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:23 AM, David Soemarko wrote:

I set up a group with restricted membership, and the ¡°allow non subscribers to post¡± is unchecked.

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A non-subscriber sent in a request for membership. The request went to the admin but was never approved. The requesting member also received a message from groups.io saying that he could now receive messages, but if membership approval was needed, he would hear from the group/admin.

?

Now the requesting member sent a message to the group. I would expect that he should get a rejection since his membership was never approved, but instead, his message still came through waiting for the Admin to approve. This doesn¡¯t seem to be an expected behavior as it seems to allow spammers to spam the Admin.

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David

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?David,

There are settings for this under Admin / Settings / Spam Control.

You have "New Users Moderated" checked. Uncheck it. Either that or reject the application as soon as the request comes in.

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Re: re time for emails to arrive

 

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 05:52 AM, WBennett wrote:
Exactly how much do I paste in to the analysing tool? All of it??
Yes, you'll need all of it to be sure the analyzer will give you the correct information.

Duane
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