Re: Just Curious - How can non-Moderators find ¡®All Posts By Another Member¡¯?
On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 09:35 am, Michael Pavan wrote: >>Where is this ¡°More menu¡±? Read the message online and you will see it (click the "View/Reply Online" link). Emails do not contain menus, only hyperlinks. >>Can non-Moderators find ¡®All Post By Another Member¡¯?Yes. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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Clicking on the Your Subscription link in the email and changing the?Email Delivery selection?ought to work...
Or access the group on the web and click on the Subscription link on the left.
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Can I transfer a Yahoo Group I don't own or moderate?
I am sorry if this deviates from the conversation but I have had no luck in finding the answer.
I have a group on Groups.io because the sole owner/moderator of the Yahoo group abandoned the group.? Attempts to contact have gone nowhere and I can't ind out who it was since the contact address is the standard yahoo (and groups.io) type owner address.? I can't even post in the yahoo group since I from the start was on first message moderate and that was over 2 years ago.? I would like to bring over the messages and files from the group but have had no luck finding who I need to contact to do that.? Any suggestions?
Thank you.
Jim Pruitt
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Re: Just Curious - Receiving your own posts in Gmail
I set up a label for ?and any other groups I¡¯ma member of, about 30 now so I have abou ?30 labels for 30 groups.?Works well and the auto filtering works very very well.
I simply do not understand why folks do not put there Gmail coming straight into their in box.
It is easy to do it imports all your contacts for you.
±õ¡¯±¹±ð set it up with thunderbird, with outlook and several other clients.
It reads just like any other mail.
On the IPhone it is easy done too.
I get it right in my mail app.
Hate the Gmail app.
It is less than friendly.
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is there anyway I can go on digest for this group please??
Thanks Nina
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Just Curious - How can non-Moderators find ¡®All Posts By Another Member¡¯?
Where is this ¡°More menu¡±? On Jul 7, 2018, at 3:36 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Michael,
How can someone look back and see which of their messages were
accepted by GMF and sent out? Find one of your own (or anyone's) messages, then from the More menu (in the bar below the message) select "All Posts By This Member". Or open your profile from the group's Directory page (if available) and select that same link.
Incidentally, that "posterid:" number that shows in the Search box when you do that is system-wide. You can use it to find that person's messages in any group. Posterid:3 is Mark Fletcher, posterid:129 is me (the two I've used enough to remember).
Shal
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I see two types of ¡®below the bar¡¯ footers (usually it is the one as on your message above), it does have the word ¡®more¡¯ in it: More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki however that is just the URL for the GMF Wiki which does not contain the "All Posts By This Member¡± you refer to. Here¡¯s the other ¡®below the bar¡¯ type of footer (which has no ¡°more¡± of any sort: _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#10019) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [michaelpavan@...] Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list Clicking on: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/10016 to get to the Messages list and then clicking on ¡°Search¡± and entering her email address still only shows #9986 and #9963 Or open your profile from the group's Directory page (if available) and select that same link. Is this only to find one¡¯s own posts? The Directory for GMF [ /g/GroupManagersForum/directory ]says: ? [email protected] ? Member Directory This member directory is only visible to members of your group. In order to view the member directory, you must change your profile privacy setting to either Other Members of Your Group, or to Public. The only links are: 1) [email protected] = GMF Home page and 2) profile privacy setting = /g/GroupManagersForum/editprofile (my profile) If I then click on: ¡°Group Profile¡±, it does reveal the "All Posts By This Member¡±, which does show all my posts. I don¡¯t have a particular interest in Patty¡¯s messages, however it did make me wonder how can I find a message I remember that a particular person (email address) sent. I guess my question is: Can non-Moderators find ¡®All Post By Another Member¡¯?
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I was using edge. I tried using chrome just to see if that would make a difference and was able to get a pdf file loaded. I don't know why edge was choking on loading a pdf file. it didn't seam to matter what was in the file. I tried just making one with a simple sentence like this is a test to see if this file will load as the only part of the pdf and still could not get it to load in edge. had no problems whatsoever when I loaded that file and? another one in chrome on the same computer.
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Paula, I have been receiving notification emails about approving posts from
members who were 'unmoderated' when we moved to Groups.io. When I go
to their membership listing, it is set for 'moderated.' I can't think of a way for that to happen, other than through moderator (or owner) action. In which case there should be an Activity log entry for each change: [moderator] changed [someone]'s posting status via web [date/time] In the Moderator Activity (or All Activity) tab you can search for such entries by selecting "Poststatus changed" in the Actions drop-list and clicking Search. The only automatic change of a member's Posting Privilege that I'm aware of is the change from "Override: new user moderated" to "Default group policy" when that user has had the required number of posts approved. Is there a way I can do a 'select all' to change all of the members to
'unmoderated?' You can use the checkboxes on the left in the Members list to select multiple members, then in the Actions menu (blue button at the bottom of the list) select "Default Post Policy". Note that I do not recommend using "Override - Not Moderated" for anyone. Maybe just the most trusted of mods or expert members. That's because if everyone has an override status that means you can't then use the group's Moderation checkbox to control the membership in bulk, in case of a flame-war or some other disturbance in the group. IMO most members should be set to "Default group Policy" (or "Override - new user moderated" if they haven't been approved enough yet). I wish it were possible to sort the Members list by Posting Privilege. Unfortunately that's indicated by a badge on their email address rather than a column of its own. You can Download the list and sort it in Excel or some other spreadsheet, but then you still have to go back and find those members in the Members list. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Re: Group name already taken before transfer from Yahoo, Any recourse?
On 7/7/2018 05:40, Arno Martens wrote: I my cases it was not even possible.
From the DOS days we use underscores for spaces. GIO does not permit underscores in a Group name so we replaced them with dashes. For completeness, the reason for that is: Hello,
Thanks for the suggestion. Underscores are not allowed because DNS names can't have underscores, and when you convert a group into a group and subgroups, the original group name is used for the subdomain.
Thanks,
Mark Best, Glenn
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For some reason, the moderation settings on some members, including my own membership, have changed.
I have been receiving notification emails about approving posts from members who were 'unmoderated' when we moved to Groups.io. When I go to their membership listing, it is set for 'moderated.'
Is there something I might have done to change the settings on all of the members? Is there a way I can do a 'select all' to change all of the members to 'unmoderated?'
Thanks,
Paula
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Re: Group name already taken before transfer from Yahoo, Any recourse?
I have a group on Yahoo with over 4800 members I'd like to transfer to > Groups .io. However somebody has already take the name.
Having a different name will actually be easier for people. If the name is the same it will autofill in address lines as the Yahoo group. It¡¯s been a problem for me in naming 15 or so groups. Old names were tvc-[team]@yahoogroups.com New names are [team]@tvc.groups.io People file the addresses under TVC [team list name] because TVC stands for the whole organization. Butt the minute TVC is typed, the autofill starts the old yahoo address. I wish I had spelled out something and dropped ¡°tvc¡± all together. With 4800 members a newish name might be a blessing in disguise. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines In Washington DC, Where all roads lead to Casablanca
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Re: Group name already taken before transfer from Yahoo, Any recourse?
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:57 am, Shal Farley wrote:
Technically that's not a problem - in the transfer there's no requirement that
the group name in Groups.io match that of the Y!Group.
I my cases it was not even possible. From the DOS days we use underscores for spaces. GIO does not permit underscores in a Group name so we replaced them with dashes. It may be an answer for the OP to hyphenate the Group name. Arno
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Patty
Again no attack, but it is more useful to me if each question is in a separate email. With hashtags, if appropriate.?
Some topics require the right person to read the question. Lots of people are using specialized equipment for people with disabilities. But they may not have spotted your query.?
Frances
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On Jul 6, 2018, at 9:35 PM, Patty Fletcher < patty.volunteer1@...> wrote: I¡¯m just curious are you all receiving my messages? ±õ¡¯±¹±ð posed a couple questions to this list and other than someone sending me the help links which I¡¯d read already and felt I still needed more help with and one person writing me privately on an unrelated matter have received no answers what so ever. ? ? Patty L. Fletcher Self-Published author and Owner of Tell-It-To-The-World Marketing Email: patty.volunteer1@... ?
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Re: Just Curious - Receiving your own posts in Gmail
I simply do not understand why folks do not put there Gmail coming straight into their in box. It is easy to do it imports all your contacts for you. ±õ¡¯±¹±ð set it up with thunderbird, with outlook and several other clients. It reads just like any other mail. On the IPhone it is easy done too. I get it right in my mail app. Hate the Gmail app. It is less than friendly. ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Shal Farley
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 11:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Just Curious - Receiving your own posts in Gmail ? Joseph, Yes that¡¯s Xbox is on by default, however, if you¡¯re wanting to receive postings from other mailing list, that are not associated with this website, if you put the word recent before the email address in your email client, that will also help you receive your own postings.
I used that for many years with Yahoo Groups to no avail. I used POP3 protocol with Eudora Classic and with Thunderbird and had recent in the address field: no joy. Nor of course on Gmail's web interface. I know I was using "recent" correctly because I could retrieve the same messages from multiple computers - which is the real feature enabled by "recent".
Every suggestion I've tried has always turned out to be a misunderstanding of one kind or another, and the person suggesting it wasn't actually seeing the message as returned from the group - with the group's footers (and possibly edits by a moderator). They were seeing the copy they sent to the group, or they were actually sending the message from a different address, or from the Group's interface, or something.
Anyway, I've set that all behind me. I simply don't use Gmail with mailing lists - except Groups.io due to the work-around. I've read that there are other list services that replace the Message-ID field, so I could join one of those with my Gmail address if I happened upon it.
Even now, with Groups.io, I have to keep a second address subscribed to groups I moderate/own set up to receive +owner messages. Because if I happen to reply to a +owner message with CC to +owner (which I habitually do so that the other mods will see my reply) I won't get that reply back in my Gmail account. Apparently Groups.io doesn't catch that case. Hm... Maybe I should write that up as a suggestion for beta.
Shal
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I do not read email on the web.
I get all mail to my in box and am not on digest.
Normally there are links under the post that read, reply to group reply to sender etc.
On that email there was not.
So, I had no other way to reply.
All is well now.
No need to clutter what seems to be a very active list with more of it.
I was not complaining that I did not get answers, realize maybe no one had an answer, all that.
I just had not seen but two messages for a while and had not gotten anything kind of resembling an answer to any of my questions so I was trying to make certain my messages were posting.
I know they are now I'm sorry that some were upset by all that have a great weekend everyone.
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Shal Farley Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 10:05 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] Just Curious Patty, > Well I made an attempt to answer this privately but see no reply to > sender link here. If you mean on the web site, after you click Reply there should be a "Private" button below and to the right of the message composition box. Clicking that will toggle between "Reply to Group" and "Reply to Sender". If you mean by email, there should be a "Reply to Sender" link under the message, if the message was formatted. Plain text messages and digests lack that feature; you'd have to copy/paste the sender's email address from the original to your reply. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Michael, How can someone look back and see which of their messages were
accepted by GMF and sent out? Find one of your own (or anyone's) messages, then from the More menu (in the bar below the message) select "All Posts By This Member". Or open your profile from the group's Directory page (if available) and select that same link. Incidentally, that "posterid:" number that shows in the Search box when you do that is system-wide. You can use it to find that person's messages in any group. Posterid:3 is Mark Fletcher, posterid:129 is me (the two I've used enough to remember). Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Re: Group name already taken before transfer from Yahoo, Any recourse?
Hi Shal,
I just requested a membership in the group to see if I can make contact with
the owner.
Thanks for the suggestions on this.
Kim
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Shal Farley Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 2:57 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] Group name already taken before transfer from Yahoo, Any recourse? Kim, > I have a group on Yahoo with over 4800 members I'd like to transfer to > Groups .io. However somebody has already take the name. Technically that's not a problem - in the transfer there's no requirement that the group name in Groups.io match that of the Y!Group. So you could take this as your opportunity to improve the group's name, were that something you would have considered were it not for the disruption. > I can't get a response from the owner. Is there any way I can get that > name so it can be retained for the transfer from Yahoo? I doubt it, not without that owner's cooperation. If group membership is open (or even if restricted) I'd probably join that group and then send to the +owner address again. That's because, unlike Yahoo, mods/owners in Groups.io have an option for what +owner messages to receive, and that owner may have chosen not to receive +owner messages from non-members. Another thing you could try, as a member, is posting to the group itself. Particularly if the group is moderated, or new-member moderated, you may be able to get the owner's attention in their Pending Messages list. The venue of last resort would be [email protected] but, absent some type of trademark situation or a similar violation of the TOS by that group's owner, I think the answer is likely to be "first come, first served". Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:13 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Patty?,
I¡¯m just curious are you all receiving my messages?
?#s 9878, 9884, 9885, 9921, 9926, 9963, 9986
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?...received no answers what so ever.
?#s ?9981, 9986, 9988
But no, apparently no one has replied about the Braille Note 4.
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Re: User deleting own post
Dano, But a person with enough money or will to afford a lawyer can make an
issue of such use and require removal, even if no monetary damages are
assessed. In the cases at hand (email list archives) the copyright owner may not need a lawyer, at least in the U.S. - the take-down provisions of the DMCA/OCILLA may suffice. But not if the poster is equally steely-eyed and demands a put-back. At that point the copyright holder must decide to file suit or let it go. I can see why Mark has continued to let posters retain control of
their content, since he has the most to lose. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that he has. But given the TOS's license provisions he doesn't really need to. At least not in straightforward cases. On the other hand it might spare him an infringement notice if a user infringes a third-party's copyright, and the user himself comes to understand/regret their action and chooses to delete the offending content him/herself. The user might rightly fear having their own account closed for the TOS violation, and thereby lose control of their own content. By the way, registration is no longer required for most copyright
issues as long as one can prove they are the original source. Registration is not required to make use of the DMCA's take-down provisions. But it is required (in the U.S.) to file the actual infringement suit, and as I said prompt registration ("before the infringement began or within three months after the first publication") is required to be awarded statutory damages. And I see, also attorney's fees: Oh, and the usual IANAL disclaimer goes here. But I have done my reading and this is far from my first rodeo where concerns arguing about how copyright applies to email list postings. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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