Pam,

as to trying to download the pdf anyway and having it work it was a
blank page. even the single page document came up that way.

Odd.

For me Edge (on Win10 Pro, version 1803) reliably opens PDF files from my Group's File list in-browser - it does not prompt me to download them. I think to download the file I'd have to use the Save function from within the PDF page's toolbar. That includes the PDF file I uploaded with Edge by ignoring the thumbnail error.

For most other file types (JPG, TXT, etc.) it gives me a prompt "What do you want to do with [filename]?" with buttons for Open, Save or Cancel.

Some of this behavior is no doubt configurable, but I'm not proficient with Edge.

Shal


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Jim,

My main question was just "how do I find out who the moderator
is/was"?

Wow, I really misunderstood you.

Examine a message posted in 2016 or earlier. If the group was fully moderated it doesn't matter which message, but you need a message that was approved by a moderator. The quickest way to get back to 2016 in the archive is via the table of messages at the bottom of the group's Info/about (aka "home") page.

Open an arbitrary message and in the View menu select "View Source". The top of the message window will be occupied by the header fields of the message. This will look rather messy unless you're used to looking at them. Scroll down (or search) to find a field (line) that starts:
X-eGroups-Approved-By:

The rest of that field will contain the Yahoo ID and email address of the moderator that approved that message. If you can find no such field then this message did not require approval, and you'll need to try again.

The bad news, apart from the search for an approved message, is that the email address will be "fig-leafed", with "@..." masking the domain part.
You might simply guess, and try the "name@" you found against the top 10 or so likely email services.

Or, you can look for any message posted by that moderator. The difficulty here is that in the Conversations it will show the person's Display name, which may not be either his yahoo ID or his email address. But if you do find an example of that moderator posting you can use View Source on that message, I believe a little more reading of the header fields may turn up clues that give away the email service that sent the message, allowing you to complete the address.

I can at least copy files over but I do not have "permission" to do
that and I was not just going to grab them without asking...but I
can't ask because my posts die of neglect after 14 days and never even
make it to the list.

It would be tedious, but you can use the techniques above to discover the email address of members who posted content of interest - if you can also find a message posted by that person.

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I had the same thing happen a little over a week ago.? The password I saved last time wouldn't work so I typed it in , no go.? I had them send me a link and it went to my old yahoo address not my gmail.? So once I got in, I merged the old account with the new and hope it lets me back in when mypassword runs out next month.
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Jim,

I have a group on Groups.io because the sole owner/moderator of the
Yahoo group abandoned the group.

Just to clarify, that means you are a member of the Y!group and not a moderator or owner yourself, correct?

That is correct.? I am just a member and not even a member that can post to the group (requires moderator approval and he/she is mia).

I would like to bring over the messages and files from the group but
have had no luck finding who I need to contact to do that.

I think the short answer is: you can't.

have moved a few other groups so am aware of the process.? My main question was just "how do I find out who the moderator is/was"?? One member posted to the group asking a moderator to identify but none did.? So I was mostly asking how I could obtain the email address of the moderator since yahoo group owner email does not reach or is not read by the existing owner/moderator.? I suspect the owner is either dead or at least incapacitated so finding the email and name would not help but it might.? Yahoo used to offer a way for someone to take over the group but that vanished when Verizon bought them.

To use the transfer mechanism as it stands you need to be able to promote the transfer agent to moderator in the Y!Group. Which means you must be at least a moderator with the privilege to change moderator status.

The longer version is that you can make a personal copy of the group's content with PG Offline, but there is (as yet anyway) no facility to load that copy into a Groups.io group.

See also:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/22140744 and
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/22653627

I did not really want to do that.? I can at least copy files over but I do not have "permission" to do that and I was not just going to grab them without asking...but I can't ask because my posts die of neglect after 14 days and never even make it to the list

Jim.

Received from pamela wolf at 7/7/2018 04:16 PM UTC:

I was using edge. I tried using chrome just to see if that would make a difference and was able to get a pdf file loaded.

Edge is just plain not yet ready for prime time. Anyone having a problem while using Edge probably should try another browser before looking elsewhere for the cause of the problem.

Jim H

You might want to consider the subscription option that sends you just the first message in any thread. If you are interested, you can click on follow in the email footer.?
On the page with subscription options, you need to click on Advanced Preferences.?

Frances

Patty,

A co-list member has written a message asking about how to answer
messages in digest mode.
...

The problem is that for some reason, on my BrailleNote Touch running
Android 4, I'm not finding the edit field in which to write my
message.

Another resource for your co-list member might be The Tech Zone:
/g/the-tech-zone

While they are a general technology list they seem to have a lot of information on assistive technologies. Though it is a smaller group than GMF she may be more likely to find someone there who uses the same device.

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On Jul 7, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Patty Fletcher <patty.volunteer1@...> wrote:

The more is down near the bottom of the page once you’re online on the IO Groups page.
I had a devil of a time finding it the first time

Hiding in plain sight (to the right of “Like”!

Thanks for your help and not minding being the ‘example’ used.

Michael

On Jul 7, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 09:35 am, Michael Pavan wrote:

Where is this “More menu”?

Read the message online and you will see it (click the "View/Reply Online" link). Emails do not contain menus, only hyperlinks.

I just tried again reading the message online - online the “View/Reply Online” link is not there, that link is only on emails.

However reading online and clicking on “Search”, and entering her email address still only shows #9986 and #9963

Can non-Moderators find ‘All Post By Another Member’?

Perhaps I should have asked:
How can non-Moderators find ‘All Posts By Another Member’?

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Pam,

I was using edge.

Ah, interesting. Using Edge I see that error in the Upload File dialog too. It is where a thumbnail of the file should show:

I don't know why edge was choking on loading a pdf file. it didn't seam to matter what was in the file. I tried just making one with a simple sentence like this is a test to see if this file will load as the only part of the pdf and still could not get it to load in edge.

Try ignoring that and click the Add button anyway. When I did the file apparently uploaded correctly into my test group. That is, I can now see the file in the group's Files list, and clicking on its name, even in Edge, opens the file in the browser window:



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Jim,

I have a group on Groups.io because the sole owner/moderator of the
Yahoo group abandoned the group.

Just to clarify, that means you are a member of the Y!group and not a moderator or owner yourself, correct?

I would like to bring over the messages and files from the group but
have had no luck finding who I need to contact to do that.

I think the short answer is: you can't.

To use the transfer mechanism as it stands you need to be able to promote the transfer agent to moderator in the Y!Group. Which means you must be at least a moderator with the privilege to change moderator status.

The longer version is that you can make a personal copy of the group's content with PG Offline, but there is (as yet anyway) no facility to load that copy into a Groups.io group.

See also:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/22140744 and
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/22653627

Shal


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On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 09:35 am, Michael Pavan wrote:

>>Where is this “More menu”?

Read the message online and you will see it (click the "View/Reply Online" link). Emails do not contain menus, only hyperlinks.

>>Can non-Moderators find ‘All Post By Another Member’?

Yes.

Regards,
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On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 09:36 am, Nina Banks wrote:

is there anyway I can go on digest for this group please??

To do that online, see?/static/help#suboptions?

To do it via email, see?/static/help#emailcommands?

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Clicking on the Your Subscription link in the email and changing the?Email Delivery selection?ought to work...
Or access the group on the web and click on the Subscription link on the left.

I set up a label for ?and any other groups I’ma member of, about 30 now so I have abou ?30 labels for 30 groups.?Works well and the auto filtering works very very well.
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