On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:47 pm, ray_r.rm wrote:
It asked for a password, but I have none, and I got the link anyway.
That's ?the way it works. If you have a password, you use it. If you don't, you ask for a login link
If my subscribers remain logged in how can it be that I cannot?
There's no relationship between you being logged in and your group members logged in. There's no relationship between your groups.io account and your members' groups.io accounts. ?
How do I get a permanent subscription to Groups.io?
You have a permanent groups.io account and you have permanent subscriptions to all of your groups (unless and until a moderator removes you or you remove yourself). You are confusing having a subscription with being logged in. Your memberships/subscription stay in place regardless of whether or not you're logged into groups.io. But you can only access the groups' content (depending on the visibility and privacy settings of each group) if you are logged in.
Can I make a member a Moderator and have him invite me?
First, you don't need to be invited. You have NOT been unsubscribed from any group. Second, if you wanted to make someone a mod in your group, you would have to be logged in to do that. So I don't really understand the point or reason for this question.?
Will it be rejected if I am already a member?
Will what be rejected??
It is unlikely that this logged out problem was ever intended,
?As Bruce mentioned before, you stay logged in only for a month, and then, for security/privacy reasons, are logged out and made to log in again.?
It seems odd that all the groups.io that I am a subscriber to logged me out all at once.
It's not odd. You log into groups.io as a whole, not a particular group. Once you're logged into groups.io, you have access to all of your groups. If you're logged out, you don't have access to any of them.
How can I get a permanent subscription?
Again: you already have permanent subscriptions to your groups (unless someone removes you or you remove yourself). You can't stay permanently logged into groups.io because that times out after a month, as previously noted. -- J
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Aol.com address formatting issue ?
I have a regular poster on our list who still uses . His address is Word1.Word2@....?
The header at the top of his posts (I am moderating all posts) has? "his name via Groups.Io?<
Word1.Word2
=[email protected]> where a typical post of mine just has "name via "...
Note the change in capitalization and the "=".
What brought this to my attention is that his posts also are lacking a "Reply to Sender" link. This is starting cause a lot of trouble in that folks reply to the entire list instead of just him.
Suggestions, other than get him off of AOL ? He REALLY likes being an AOL holdout..
Thanks.
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Except that that doesn¡¯t explain why people I know have posted many times on the Yahoo group and are not listed as moderated on groups.io, including myself, are being moderated now. They were not being moderated on yahoo. Elizabeth On 29 Mar 2018, at 20:27, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:04 pm, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
I entirely agree that setting them to Default group policy would be best. My issue is that they are already set to that, and yet I am being asked to moderate them.
Again, that's because they were M (moderated) in your yahoo group, so they stayed M (moderated) when transferred over. The transfer process doesn't count the number of yahoo messages people have posted and set them to NuM or unmoderated accordingly. It just keeps everybody's status the same as it was in yahoo.
You should KEEP your group's setting exactly as it is (NuM with 1 post), and either slowly set the appropriate M members to NuM according to whether you think they've neer posted, or keep them M and unmoderate them by hand as their posts come in.
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Login?
I do not recall any when I transferred my group 1 month ago from Yahoo where it had been for 13 years.
To get the temporary link, I just used my e-mail address, I think.
It asked for a password, but I have none, and I got the link anyway.
If my subscribers remain logged in how can it be that I cannot?
How do I get a permanent subscription to Groups.io?
Can I make a member a Moderator and have him invite me?
Will it be rejected if I am already a member?
It is unlikely that this logged out problem was ever intended,
It seems odd that all the groups.io that I am a subscriber to logged me out all at once.
How can I get a permanent subscription?
Thanks, Richard
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Sara,
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I have a closed group setup in Facebook and when you post to the group, it puts it up on the group page and, if you are group member, you get a notice of a posting.? We have not had a lot of activity on the Facebook Group because most of our members are older and not real friendly towards Facebook. We only have 14 members in the Facebook segment of our group. Our postings do not go to individual Facebook pages.
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Now that Facebook has become such a problem with compromised data, even those members we do have on Facebook want to leave - and I am in that group. Also, I am seriously thinking of shutting down my personal page.
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That¡¯s what I think I know.
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Bill
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I didn't think you could do that. I thought the facebook thing was the other way around where when you post?something ?to the group it posts to your facebook page??Correct me if I'm wrong?
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There's not an Easy Transfer for FB like there is for Yahoo or Google groups.? Hopefully someone has done this and can chime in with some tips. The FB integration just takes posts from a public FB page and sends them to a groups.io group.? It doesn't work with FB groups. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:04 pm, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
I entirely agree that setting them to Default group policy would be best. My issue is that they are already set to that, and yet I am being asked to moderate them.
Again, that's because they were M (moderated) in your yahoo group, so they stayed M (moderated) when transferred over. The transfer process doesn't count the number of yahoo messages people have posted and set them to NuM or unmoderated accordingly. It just keeps everybody's status the same as it was in yahoo. You should KEEP your group's setting exactly as it is (NuM with 1 post), and either slowly set the appropriate M members to NuM according to whether you think they've neer posted, or keep them M and unmoderate them by hand as their posts come in.? ? -- J
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Hence my confusion. Never mind, I will soldier on, and hope if I approve enough messages often enough it will sort itself out. Elizabeth On 29 Mar 2018, at 20:08, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:04 pm, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
Default group policy would be best. My issue is that they are already set to that, and yet I am being asked to moderate them
In that case, you must have the Spam Control section of your Settings set for Moderated. That's the only way I can see this happening.
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I didn't think you could do that. I thought the facebook thing was the other way around where when you post?something ?to the group it posts to your facebook page??Correct me if I'm wrong?
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I am new to and have just set up a group here as the owner.
I am transferring - hopefully - the content and particularly the membership list of a Facebook Group.? I was led to? believe by someone that recommended this group, and also by the text I saw when first getting on the website/group, that importing from Facebook was straight forward.? Now that I have the group set up, I can't find out how to do it.? Can someone help please?
Bill
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:40 am, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
I am dreading going through them individually and setting them all to Post.
I sympathize, but that's your only option currently (and I think you mean set them to NuM). I had to go through it recently with a 3,000-member group I helped transfer over, the majority of whose members had not yet posted. I just did it a little at a time. I left the really ancient members alone with their M status, figuring that if they had not posted yet, they're unlikely to ever do so; and that if and when they do, the mods can just deal with it and unmoderate them by hand. ? -- J
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I am new to Groups.io and have just set up a group here as the owner.
I am transferring - hopefully - the content and particularly the membership list of a Facebook Group.? I was led to? believe by someone that recommended this group, and also by the text I saw when first getting on the website/group, that importing from Facebook was straight forward.? Now that I have the group set up, I can't find out how to do it.? Can someone help please?
Bill
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:59 am, J_Catlady wrote:
It will unmoderate all her currently moderated members (which is what I meant by ¡®everybody¡¯ - you are right that it will affect only those not set to the default)
Sorry, was driving, meant the opposite. Bottom line is that NuM needs to be set by hand for any old members coming over from yahoo who are on mod in yahoo only because they haven't yet posted, because the setting did not exist there. ? -- J
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:04 pm, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
Default group policy would be best. My issue is that they are already set to that, and yet I am being asked to moderate them
In that case, you must have the Spam Control section of your Settings set for Moderated.? That's the only way I can see this happening. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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I entirely agree that setting them to Default group policy would be best. My issue is that they are already set to that, and yet I am being asked to moderate them. But I will give it a go.
Thanks for the tips for making it easier. I have certainly appreciated being able to deal with Bouncing members 20 at a time instead of individually as in Y. Being able to do it 100 at a time will ne marvellous.
Elizabeth
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On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:57, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:40 am, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
setting them all to Post
The best choice would probably be "Default group policy". That way if there's ever a serious group problem, you can quickly switch the group to moderated, then back to unmoderated after things cool down.
To minimize the amount of work, there are a couple of things you can do. Change your account preference settings to display 100 items per page (or infinite scroll if you want to try to do them all at once.) Then go down through the list to select the check box beside the names for whichever action you want to perform. At the bottom of the page, use the Actions drop down to select the one you want for those users and verify it. If you want to select another group to change to another setting, just repeat.
Duane
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Shal,?
It will NOT do what she wants. It will unmoderate all her currently moderated members (which is what I meant by ¡®everybody¡¯ - you are right that it will affect only those not set to the default) but she doesn¡¯t want to unmoderate them. She wants them set to NuM.
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:40 am, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
setting them all to Post
The best choice would probably be "Default group policy".? That way if there's ever a serious group problem, you can quickly switch the group to moderated, then back to unmoderated after things cool down. To minimize the amount of work, there are a couple of things you can do.? Change your account preference settings to display 100 items per page (or infinite scroll if you want to try to do them all at once.)? Then go down through the list to select the check box beside the names for whichever action you want to perform.? At the bottom of the page, use the Actions drop down to select the one you want for those users and verify it.? If you want to select another group to change to another setting, just repeat. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Bruce,
There¡¯s no NuM feature in yahoo. It¡¯s not a setting: it¡¯s just an FYI to members that they are on moderation until a moderator manually unmoderates them. The problem is that the posting status set in Yahoo doesn¡¯t match the ?possible statuses in , so that in transferring a group, has no way of knowing which M members should stay M and which ones should be set to NuM because they were M only by virtue of the fact that they had not yet posted.?
That is why I¡¯ve suggestec an option in beta to make them all one way or the other during the transfer. It¡¯s not perfect but it might be helpful in groups where, for example, either many members have not yet posted (in which case the choice would be to set all M members to NuM) or many members are on legitimate moderation, in which case the choice could be to keep the M status. Right now, the transfer defaults to the latter.
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On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Bruce Bowman < bruce.bowman@...> wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 08:10 am, J_Catlady wrote:
That's because they came over as "M" (moderated) from your yahoo group, which had no "new member moderated" feature.
No, that's incorrect. Y!G does have a NuM feature and it's the same as GIO...it's in the group settings, not the subscriber settings. See attached screenshot. I support your efforts to somehow carry over this feature during migration, but to do so will entail making some assumptions regarding where existing Y!G users are in the process of first-post moderation. Lurkers can spend years in this stage if they've never posted anything. Bruce
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Yes, I want New members, or rather those who have never sent a message, to have their first message moderated and then go to unmoderated status, though there are some members who remain moderated, as they are commercial suppliers.
However many members who have been posting for years (including myself) have had posts sent to moderation. Multiple times!
I am dreading going through them individually and setting them all to Post.
Elizabeth
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On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:04, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 08:09 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
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Doing that will unmoderate everybody. I don't think that's what she wants.
No, doing that will unmoderate those members whose posting privilege is Default group policy rather than one of the overrides. Which is almost certainly exactly what Elizabeth wants.
She wants NuM and she will have to do it by hand for the existing members coming from yahoo.
That's correct.
Regardless of how they got that way, any member whose Posting Privilege is Override: moderated will continue to have their messages held pending until their privilege is manually changed. My usual approach to such members is to be lazy: I wait for their next message to land in the Pending list and change their Privilege to Default group policy at that time.
Unless I want to keep that individual moderated, of course. Then I can choose between leaving them on indefinite moderation or changing them to Override: new user moderated, but the latter only makes sense if the group has enabled Unmoderate After to a setting higher than 1.
Shal
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They are from individual members. And some of my own posts have also been sent for moderation. On 29 Mar 2018, at 15:11, Frances <frances@...> wrote:
Can you confirm that the approx 50 messages per day are from individual members?
If not, then there must be a settings problem. More detail, please!
Frances
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