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Re: changing owner email address? #owner

 

Hi

I just checked on my test group. I uploaded a file with one email address. Changed that email address (using Account in top right corner). After the email address change, the file is now attributed to the new email address.

Frances

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Re: changing owner email address? #owner

 

I understand now what you want to do, and you may be doing it the hard way, I think a simple email change will take care of it, but it would depend on what you want/expect to happen:

>>> will the files I uploaded from the first account now be seen as being uploaded from the second account?

With your proposal, remember that account-merging the old>into>the>new will transfer ownership of the old account files (et al) into the new account, and when done the old email gio account will be auto-deleted, you don't have to do that yourself.? So in this case, the files would display as being uploaded from your new email account.? (Only in the activity log there will be historical entries showing the original old email address, no choice in this regardless of method)?

Is this what you want to happen?? If yes, skip the process you describe and just do a simple email change, a lot easier.? If no, what do you want to take place then?

Cheers,

Christos

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Re: changing owner email address? #owner

 

Thank you, Shal, for replying.? I tried to ask a generalized question, but you needed more specifics.
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Your reply was based on the understandable assumption that one or both of my emails is being used also elsewhere on groups.io in other groups. But they are not.?
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I apologize for not giving all the relevant info.
Here is more info which might change your response to my question:
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The group is private so I will give you a fictitious group and fictitious emails as an example.
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I created a private group named "privatespecifictopic.groups.io"
The email I created for the founding ownership of the group is "random123xyz@..."
I have never used that email address anywhere else on groups.io except for"specifictopic.groups.io"
I have already started the group named "privatespecifictopic.groups.io" with that email address, and I am the owner-founder.??
We¡¯ve been around for several months. I have uploaded hundreds of files via that owner account, but have not made any posts yet.? Some new members have joined by invitation and we are about to begin posting messages/emails/discussions.
This group is private.
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I have a separate regular email address I use for my memberships in other groups at groups.io
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Now I decide that I don¡¯t want to use the email address "random123xyz@..." for anything anymore.??
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I have uploaded hundreds of files as "random123xyz@..." into the files area at "specifictopic.groups.io" -- but now I don¡¯t want those files to be associated with that email address.? (Even if I make the membership email addresses invisible to the members, I will still want to eventually appoint a moderator and I don¡¯t want the new moderator to see the "random123xyz@..." account which I had used to found the group. )
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I decide to create a brand new email address called "hello123xyz@..."
I have never used this new email hello "123xyz@..." for groups.io anywhere.
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Here is my proposal - What if did this:
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1) Log out of groups.io from "random123xyz@..." which is the email that I'd used?
as owner-founder of my private group "privatespecifictopic.groups.io"?
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2) Then join that same group "privatespecifictopic.groups.io" with the brand new email address "hello123xyz@..." which has never been used for groups.io before.
Then log out of groups.io completely.
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3) Log back into the same private group "privatespecifictopic.groups.io"
with my original founding owner email "random123xyz@..."?
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4) While logged into "privatespecifictopic.groups.io" as the original owner "random123xyz@..."?
I will make the new member "hello123xyz@..."?
into a second owner of "privatespecifictopic.groups.io" with all ownership privileges.
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4a) Now I have two email addresses as owners of "privatespecifictopic.groups.io" with all the privileges.
  • The first owner account is the original "random123xyz@..." email, which has made zero posts but has uploaded hundreds of files.
  • The second owner account is the new email "hello123xyz@..." which has done nothing yet.
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5) Then merge the two email accounts as instructed in that wiki.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/16537
It is important to note that NEITHER email has ever been used anywhere on groups.io
?-- except at my private group "privatespecifictopic.groups.io"??
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Will I be able to merge the two owner accounts, and then delete the account I don't want used anymore, and will the files I uploaded from the first account now be seen as being uploaded from the second account?
Re: changing owner email address? #owner

 

Reachingout,

And then later I want change my personal email address .. can I change
my personal email address on my groups.io group?
You can only change your email address in your Groups.io account, not in a single group or selected groups. Do that through the Email field on the Login page of your Account page.
/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/setting-account-preferences-and-viewing-account-information
(see the item "Change your email address" in the section on changing account login elements).

If I do that, will my messages and my file uploads show my new email
address instead of the old one?
Yes, they will continue to be associated with that account, despite the change of the account's email address. Generally speaking though the web interface will show your account's Display Name, if you've set one, rather than your email address. Set your Display Name on the Identity page of your account.
(further down on that same help page, under "Customizing your Groups.io account profile and individual group profiles").

I read how to merge two accounts here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/16537

That wiki entry says to beware of doing that as an owner!
Merging accounts is a far different thing than changing the address of an account. Yes it is true that the ownership roles held by the address that no longer exists have been observed to disappear with that account. I think this is a bug, but it has resisted resolution.

What if did this:
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5) Then merge the two email accounts as instructed in that wiki.
Would that work?
Yes.

But if your new address doesn't yet have an account (hasn't been used yet to join any Groups.io groups) then you should be able to simply change your existing account from the old address to the new, as above.

From your question I'm going to guess that you've already tried this and been warned about merging. This happens when the new email address has already been used within the Groups.io system (and an account was automatically created for it).

If the account associated with your new email address doesn't own any groups, and hasn't created valued content in any groups, then you may find it easier to delete the new account, and then change (not merge) you original account's email address to the new one.
/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/deleting-your-account

Shal


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Re: How to change the max attachment size setting for the entire group?

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 04:50 PM, Jim Sterken wrote:
?I discovered today that when I set up the group a few months ago and added the 650 members, the max attachment size was set to 5MB.
In addition to what Duane said, if you look at Admin > Settings > Default Sub Settings (button) you will see the default settings for new members and why you had a 5MB limit to start with. See the Owner's Manual at /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/setting-default-email-options-and-user-settings/default-subscription-settings-panel

Andy
Re: changing owner email address? #owner

 

I read how to merge two accounts here:
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That wiki entry says to beware of doing that as an owner!
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What if did this:
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1) Log out of all? of groups.io from my personal email that I'd used to start my groups.io group.
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2)? Then Join the group with the new email address. Then log out.
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3) Log back into into the same group with my existing personal email that is set up as? the founding owner.
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4) While logged in as the original owner, make my new email address into a second owner with all privileges.
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5) Then merge the two email accounts as instructed in that wiki.
Would that work?
Re: changing owner email address? #owner

 

I'm not so for sure, if you can change your email address and it will reflect the files I don't think it is possible. But you can go and change your email address, and it will be a change for all of your groups. Because you're changing the email address on your profile. If you don't want that email address to show up on those files I would change your email address before uploading them.

On Oct 18, 2021, at 6:02 PM, reachingout <sally.suzy@...> wrote:

If I set up a groups.io group and I am the original owner and I use my personal email address to start the group as the owner. and I send out messages and upload files with that email adddress.

And then later I want change my personal email address .. can I change my personal email address on my groups.io group? If I do that, will my messages and my file uploads show my new email address instead of the old one?
Re: How to change the max attachment size setting for the entire group?

 

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 07:35 PM, Sandy wrote:
Many don't have Groups.IO accounts.
Everyone on a group has an account, whether they've ever logged into it or not.? All explained nicely in the Members Manual.
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I just need to be able to change the max attachment size on each of the current members.? I can't find a way to do that.
Just follow the instructions you were given earlier, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/39536

Duane
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changing owner email address? #owner

 

If I set up a groups.io group and I am the original owner and I use my personal email address to start the group as the owner. and I send out messages and upload files with that email adddress.

And then later I want change my personal email address .. can I change my personal email address on my groups.io group? If I do that, will my messages and my file uploads show my new email address instead of the old one?
Re: How to change the max attachment size setting for the entire group?

 

"Blocked" as in the attachment is not included in the email.? Our members do not want to have to log in to get the documents.? Many don't have Groups.IO accounts.
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I just need to be able to change the max attachment size on each of the current members.? I can't find a way to do that.
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Sandy Walroth? ? ? Houston,TX?

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On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 4:58 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 05:35 PM, Sandy wrote:
This list is for the members of a dog club, and our minutes/agendas and event announcements?are being blocked.
Blocked? I don't understand that.

Those with a smaller attachment size setting in their Subscription settings should instead receive a link to the file. All they have to do is click the link (and log in, if necessary) to retrieve it.

/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/controlling-your-email-subscription-preferences/advanced-preferences?

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: How to change the max attachment size setting for the entire group?

 

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 05:35 PM, Sandy wrote:
This list is for the members of a dog club, and our minutes/agendas and event announcements?are being blocked.
Blocked? I don't understand that.

Those with a smaller attachment size setting in their Subscription settings should instead receive a link to the file. All they have to do is click the link (and log in, if necessary) to retrieve it.

/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/controlling-your-email-subscription-preferences/advanced-preferences?

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: How to change the max attachment size setting for the entire group?

 

On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 21:49:08 +0100, Sandy <rallyjudge@...> wrote:

How can you change the max attachment size for current members?? I have a small list, and set the size to 5MB initially, but it won't forward a 4MB attachment (replaces with a link).? I have changed the size for new subscribers, but can't find how to change for those already subscribed.

Remember that a 4Mb file will be a 5.5-6Mb attachment. That's the way email works, files have to be encoded and so swell by anything from 30%-50% (typically).

Malcolm.

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Re: HTML formatting of message footer?

 

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 01:55 PM, Peter Cook wrote:
Maybe my memory is going but didn't we used to have the ability to format the footer under "message format?" Mine doesn't have a format bar now.
Peter -- I don't recall there ever being an html formatting bar for the footer text field.

If you put a URL in here, most email clients will "linkify" it on receipt, though.

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: How to change the max attachment size setting for the entire group?

 

Yes, I do want to change it.? This list is for the members of a dog club, and our minutes/agendas and event announcements?are being blocked.? This is a small group, and everyone has high speed internet, so size isn't a problem.
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I had initially set the? max size to 5MB, but need it to be bigger.? I've changed it for new subscribers, but that will only affect new members.? All members?need to be able to receive these documents.
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 4:03 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 03:56 PM, Sandy wrote:
How can you change the max attachment size for current members?
First, are you sure you want to?? There may be members that have set it themselves and wouldn't want you changing it.? I know I'd be really irate if an owner changed mine since I have limited bandwidth and have it set to 100KB for a reason.? If you really do want to change it, go to each member's record, open the Advanced Preferences panel, set it (near the bottom of the panel), and scroll down to Save.

Duane
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Re: How to change the max attachment size setting for the entire group?

 

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 03:56 PM, Sandy wrote:
How can you change the max attachment size for current members?
First, are you sure you want to?? There may be members that have set it themselves and wouldn't want you changing it.? I know I'd be really irate if an owner changed mine since I have limited bandwidth and have it set to 100KB for a reason.? If you really do want to change it, go to each member's record, open the Advanced Preferences panel, set it (near the bottom of the panel), and scroll down to Save.

Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
Re: Allow one user to post attachments unmoderated

 

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 02:18 PM, Ardoth Hassler wrote:
the attachment setting overrides the sender's posting status
Mark just announced that this has been changed,

Duane
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Re: How to change the max attachment size setting for the entire group?

 

How can you change the max attachment size for current members?? I have a small list, and set the size to 5MB initially, but it won't forward a 4MB attachment (replaces with a link).? I have changed the size for new subscribers, but can't find how to change for those already subscribed.
Re: Directions to UN-bounce members Please

 

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 02:45 PM, star_gazzier wrote:
Directions to UN-bounce members
You can't.? It's something they have to do themselves, /helpcenter/faq/1/group-member-faq/q-i-got-a-message-that-my? All you can do is send Bounce Probes.

Duane
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Re: Bouncing confirmation message

 

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 02:18 PM, Mdivine wrote:
is the only option to suggest for them is use a different email address or do they have to contact centurylink?
Either may help.? Centurylink may be using spamcop which is known to have problems by itself.? That message is pretty clear it was suspected spam, but the only time I've had NC members bounce is when they've entered a bad email address (typo).

Duane
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Directions to UN-bounce members Please

 

Hello everyone need a little help Please

Directions to UN-bounce members...

Dan
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