On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:22 AM, Leeni wrote:

Now if I write to Beta and make a suggestion for a possible bug, would it be listened to if I don't have a premium?group.

Yes, Mark reads all the messages on beta and takes appropriate action.

Duane
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I was given a solution which is easy to implement. That is to delete the image not only?at the bottom where I?had done it but also in the top portion of the email itself. So if I delete it in 2 places, it will not show up in the email. I am going to try that. ? Now if I write to Beta and make a suggestion for a possible bug, would it be listened to if I don't have a premium?group.? ? Thanks, Leeni? ? ? ? ?

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Thanks for that information. That is what I didn't do. I will do that in the future. I need to remember to remove the image from both places. I am sure I will be able to test that out soon LOL Leeni? ? ? ? ?

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:05 PM, Hank Montgomery wrote:

Better still,
if you LIKE what someone says, why not reply and tell them so!

Because that would defeat the purpose. The whole point of introducing the thumbs-up button is that it reduces the need for additional messages.

IMHO - "Likes" are for social media contests to see who can get the most "Likes".?

On groups.io, you thumb up posts, not users. It's not a contest (unless you make it one)


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On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 04:25 AM, Stewart Dean wrote:

So my question: can private group allow postings by non-members?

Yes; you can have a group listed in the directory but still have its archives private (only members can see them, not the public), and allow non-members to post; it's a kind of a "honey-pot" setup, you make your address known so people can find you, anyone can send you anything, but only you can see it after being received. (plus obviously the non-member who sent it through the copy in their Sent Items folder).

Cheers,
Christos

[Mod Note: non-member posts will always go into Pending Messages]

Leeni,

I did some testing on editing messages with attachments (in the body or at the end of the message) some time ago for a GMF image attachment thread so this is relatively fresh and there is definitely a bug there.

Unless it gets fixed, when you edit a message which has inline embedded images in the body, check the graphic you want to delete in the "attachments"as you already do now, but before clicking on Save Message, scroll through the message textbox above and find that same image that's displayed up there, select it, and Del it. If you don't delete the image in both places, and only do one in either direction*, you'll experience things like yours.

Cheers,
Christos

* It's funkier the other direction, i.e. delete the textbox inline image but leave the attachment and save; the image doesn't show anymore in message display but if the message is re-edited the "deleted" image reappears in the "attachments" section ... you can funky it even more by deleting different images in the body vs the "attachments" section, and you can end up in a message which displays different images on the message body textbox vs the "attachments" section when edited again ... I'll have to look back at notes to get the exact details and I'll post another message in order to keep this one fixing-your-problem only, but in a nutshell, the same underlying code is used for handling editing of both messages with traditional body-end attachments and inline message-body images, and it "shoehorns" message-body images in being handled the same as message-end images in both code and db storage and things are not staying synchronized between the "attachments" and message body section in the message editing screen.

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NY State has had an executive order that all communities with a police force establish a committee of its citizens to review and re-imagine its policing.? I am on the committee for the Town of Ulster in the Kingston, NY area.
We have made our review and are about to present it to the public and solicit public opinion.? I have run a couple of groups since Yahoo Groups folded and naturally thought of groups.io...

But, having begun to create a groups.io group, I realized we don't really want a discussion group (which could turn into a combative free for all on the charged issue of policing), rather we want a "bucket" to collect opinion, a private group:

• listed in the directory
  
• that would allow non-members to post (I realize that the posts would necessarily be moderated)
  
• whose postings would be then be visible to the people on the committee...who would be its members
• but the postings would not be visible to the public
  

Yes, this is a poll...but:

• of the simplest kind (what do you think/feel)
• I want this to be a free group, which no longer supports polls
  

The reason I'm thinking of making this a private group is that if the group and its postings were to be seen (as well as being posted to) publicly it could turn into a battleground and a headache to moderate and present in a civil productive fashion.

So my question: can private group allow postings by non-members?

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Leeni,

So, I looked below for the specific graphic and checked to delete the
graphic in question.

Checking the box deleted only the image file containing the image, not the text in the body of the message which referenced it.

Then I hit save and opened it up again to make sure that the violated
graphic was gone and it was.

If there's a bug here it may be this: that the on-site view doesn't show a broken image icon at the spot where the image file was referenced. If it did you'd have known you needed to take the second step of deleting the reference.

The more complicated fix (for Mark) would be to find and eliminate the references when images are deleted from a pending message.

Now in the email, this is what we see where the graphic used to be.

Standard missing/broken image icon plus the name of the image file. That's what most HTML rendering applications would show when there's a reference to a file that can't be found or read.

I am not sure if this is a bug or not.

Tough call. I'd say it isn't a bug, exactly, but a lack of a smooth user interface.

As a #suggestion in beta I'd say the suggestion would be: When editing a Pending message, delete any HTML <img> tags referencing a file when the checkbox is used to delete that file.

Shal


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On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 08:31 PM, Linda King wrote:

I thought that, as well, but why no notification in my email that she'd left the group?

Have you searched your group's Activity log to see if there any clues there? Don't just search for failed attempts at posting.

Chris

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 03:31 PM, Linda King wrote:

why no notification in my email that she'd left the group?

Linda -- Click on Subscription on the left-side menu bar and update your Moderator Notifications as needed. If the "Members" entry shows that an email notification is already set up, check your spam/junk folder to see if it landed there.

Please note that only?subscription?changes in your group can be set up to send you a notification. If -- as Duane suggested -- this member deleted his account or changed his email address, these are account functions, and notifications are not sent.

Changing an email address will create an entry in the activity log, though.

Regards,
Bruce

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Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual

On the same note, how many of this group have utilized the documentation that Nina did a fantastic job on actually sent her a not on the documentation group telling her you like what she did?
I think she did an amazing job in an incrediblly short time.
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On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 05:41 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

Another unfortunate effect of this not being recorded anywhere

Not correct.

The Likes info (i.e. to which message they pertain to and who liked it) are saved in GIO's message-attributes database table(s), otherwise the next time you opened that message which you (or someone else) liked it, in the interface, the Likes wouldn't have "stuck".? You can click on the "x person liked this" link on any message and it shows you who liked it.

it's just that while the info is being (and has been) stored, nothing is being done with it, so far anyway.

Cheers,
Christos

Better still,
if you LIKE what someone says, why not reply and tell them so!
IMHO - "Likes" are for social media contests to see who can get the most "Likes".? NOT for serious information exchange.
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On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 02:31 PM, Annick Phillips wrote:

If I delete their account listed with the old Yahoo address, will that affect their new account with the new address?
? Also, is it really necessary for a group owner to do anything about the accounts that have the red B, other than to maintain the group list as current?

No and no.? Each email address listed as a member is a separate account.? You only need to do something about the red B's if they annoy you.? There are a couple on this group from 2015! ;>)

Duane
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On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 02:31 PM, Jim Sterken wrote:

Shucks, there should be an admin way to do this all at once for the whole group.

At times, that may be true, but I think the expectation is that you'll use the proper setting when creating the group, before there are members.? You could make the suggestion on the if you can't find an existing topic that discusses it.

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As an owner of several groups, I have never really paid any attention to the bouncing status of members unless they contact me to say they are not getting group messages, and then I investigate. In looking today at the list of bounced members, especially with the red B, I noticed that some had Yahoo accounts that were no longer valid and they had another account with a different email address. If I delete their account listed with the old Yahoo address, will that affect their new account with the new address?
? Also, is it really necessary for a group owner to do anything about the accounts that have the red B, other than to maintain the group list as current?
Annick