I must be doing something wrong. I did an export of group data (photos). I got an email with a link to the zip file. I unzipped the file and got files and .json. I created a photo album in the new group. I tried to do an add a file from the unzipped files to the new album It tells me, "

Invalid type for file "Coop Grain Storage". Only "image" files are supported.".
What have I done wrong?

Barry,

<Any truth to the rumor that [our group] is going away at the end of
this year ?>

One of my classmates, in my high-school classmates group, posted a few weeks ago citing the Yahoo Groups shutdown and asking what we should do about our group. He apparently hadn't noticed, or forgot, that our group had transferred to Groups.io about three years prior.

I can't blame him. The transfer was seamless as far as an email-only member was concerned. One day he was receiving messages via our Yahoo Group, the next via our Groups.io group, with no action required on his part.

I sent out notices, of course, before and after the transfer, but I can easily imagine that those could go unnoticed or be forgotten.

Shal


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On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 05:49 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

In the Spam Control block, turn on Restricted Membership, and turn off New Members Moderated. Be sure to save your changes.

Michelle; to get the full benefit from Bruce's suggestion I suggest that you set up a Pending Subscription message to which applicants must respond before you admit them to membership; without doing that the Restricted Membership doesn't achieve its proper potential. In fact, to me it's far from clear that it achieves anything much unless some further input from applicants is required before they are admitted.

Chris .

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 05:41 PM, Michelle Hamed wrote:

Once a new member has been approved for the group, we would like them to be able to post directly to the group without a moderator having to approve anything.

Is it really too much of a burden to moderate the first few posts from a new member? That capability is there for a group's protection from ne'er do wells and mischief - makers.

Chris

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:41 PM, Michelle Hamed wrote:

Is there a way to turn off all message approval requirements? Once a new member has been approved for the group, we would like them to be able to post directly to the group without a moderator having to approve anything.

Yes. In the Spam Control block, turn on Restricted Membership, and turn off New Members Moderated. Be sure to save your changes. Having done so, incoming members will go into Pending and need to be approved, but once approved you will not have to review any messages.

There is no way to allow people to join your group and immediately post without any intervention. A Moderator must get involved in the process at some point.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:12 PM, Mimi Kessler wrote:

There are some members that seem to consistently create hashtags incorrectly. For example the subject line says "#knife sharpening" instead of "#knifesharpening" (or better #Knife_sharpening).

"#knife sharpening" is not a valid hashtag. The hashtag would be #knife and the word "sharpening" is just another word in the subject line.

For future reference, you can avoid this by creating all hashtags in advance and requiring people to use existing ones (i.e.: don't allow them to create any). But that may be too restrictive, depending on your group needs.

I am wanting to clean that stuff up periodically and now is the time to start.

?

Is there a way to transfer the content from one hashtag to another without sending it out again through the group again?

Yes, but it takes a few steps.

For the same of argument, let's say you have multiple topics tagged with #badtag and you want to move them all to #goodtag.?

1. Click open the "bad" hashtag (#badtag), and click the Edit Tag button
2. On the resulting page, pull down the Alias menu and select #goodtag from the pick-list
3. Click the blue Update Hashtag button to complete the aliasing

Having done this, any messages with #badtag in the subject line will map to #goodtag in both outgoing emails and in the message archive.*?

This is good from the perspective of heading off future posts, but it's not so good inasmuch as #badtag remains in the valid hashtags list and thus encourages your subscribers to keep using it. If you want to get rid of #badtag altogether (having already done the aliasing above), just open its Edit Tag dialog once more and click the red Delete button. Affected topics will retain the aliased #goodtag.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

*If all you need to do is change the name and don't need to merge anything, simply open the existing hashtag and rename it.

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On 17/11/2020 13:44, Duane wrote:

If your test group has public messages, create one with an attached file.? Then sign out, go to the group, and click on the attachment.? It would be good to know this for sure.

These days, test groups must be non-public, but fortunately I still have a grandfathered test group with "Archive is visible to anyone", and so I tested it: yep, I can access the attachments.

,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,69680521

As for archive searching, I tried posting a PG Offline HTML export as an "HTML e-mail" to the test list, and it arrived as an HTML e-mail, which doesn't look exactly like the PG Offline export, but it does allow for searching the Yahoogroups archives (of course: this would be used in a private group, otherwise the Yahoogroups archive become public).

Samuel

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 06:20 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

it makes the attachments available to the public

I don't think so.? I believe you have to be a member to retrieve file attachments.? If your test group has public messages, create one with an attached file.? Then sign out, go to the group, and click on the attachment.? It would be good to know this for sure.? That would still leave the searchability issue though.

Duane

On 17/11/2020 09:43, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:

The last new group I started, I was a bit shocked as well. However, I think my grandfathered groups are just spoiled! In a few of them, we use all the bells and whistles.

Yes, but killing off the file storage is a big blow. Database and photo storage isn't that big of a deal (for me).

I know Google Groups and FreeLists don't have file storage, but Yahoogroups did, and it seems natural to me that a mailing list should have some kind of place where related stuff can be stored. It doesn't need to be gigabytes.

We had planned to put our Yahoogroups archives in the Files section --
not only can one search within files in the File section, but one can also hide the Files from non-members, if the messages are public.

The alternative offered, namely to make files available via posting sticky topics, does not allow for the attachments to be searched and it makes the attachments available to the public, which means that we'd have to either password-protect the old archives (and let the moderators decide who to give the passwords to) or we have to make the list private. The alternative to that is to host the files somewhere else and just provide a link to it, but if you're going to be hosting your files somewhere else, one might almost consider simply hosting the mailing list somewhere else as well.

...but so far, it is still far better than either forums or mail lists, because it is the best of both.

Just about the only thing that makes Groups.io better at this time (for me) is the fact that one can have some control over large attachments.

Samuel

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Gene,

>>> I am relatively new to this so forgive my lack of knowledge.

No problem at all, we were there one time as well, but giving more info upfront about your query/problem (like you did in this reply) can help get more tailored answers.

>>> The photos are contained in multiple albums. I want to move all albums to the new group. Can this be done by album or do I need to download each photo (I have 681), save it and then upload them into new albums?

I was in the middle of writing up the same thing Duane already posted, so what he said; but I wanted to add, if you don't care about preserving the description field (for album or image) in the new group, or preserve ownership, it won't be that much work, just start going folder (album) by folder, copy and paste folder name (album title), and do a mass upload of all the album images; unless if you have a ton of albums with 1-2 images in them, it shouldn't take long.? BUT, if you do want to preserve the description, then like Duane said, lots of work, as while you can still mass-upload them per album, you still have to go through each uploaded one, open its local json file, copy the description in there, edit the uploaded one and and paste it there. (along with setting the correct owner - I'm presuming members are also being moved/are moving themselves to the new group)

It would be nice if one dropped one or more images AND their associated json file(s) in the upload box GIO would accept it and use them to populate the fields, but it doesn't.? Maybe a beta suggestion? (it may already have been suggested)

Cheers,
Christos

Thanks for getting back to me. I'll get to work on my move.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 06:18 PM, Gene wrote:

Can this be done by album or do I need to download each photo

You can use the "Export Group Data" button at the top of the Settings page to get them all at once.? They'll be sorted by album and there will be a json file for each with the description and such.? There's not a way to import that though, so still much manual labor.

Duane
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Thank you to all who have suggested causes, effects and possible remedies.

Although our new group (just 3 members as we do initial testing) has Force HTML set, and I REALLY want to get the HTML style footer on all messages received by group members, it just won't happen!

I have sent HTML from Thunderbird and text from Thunderbird but none are received with that required footer, so I can't see what the Force HTML is supposed to achieve. My emails are set inwards as Viewed Always in HTML.

It would appear to be a Thunderbird-created situation and in view of the popularity of this email program I can't understand why groups.io programmers haven't found a way to accommodate it.

I think the "text" footer is nowhere near as helpful as the HTML version but it looks as though groups.io is just going to receive my white flag on this one, unless someone has a panacea before I upload the member list.

Cheers from Down Under.

The photos are contained in multiple albums. I want to move all albums to the new group. Can this be done by album or do I need to download each photo (I have 681), save it and then upload them into new albums? I am relatively new to this so forgive my lack of knowledge.

You are correct, I am closing down one group and creating another. I will try the save and upload and let you know how that worked. Thanks for your help.