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Re: Photo Move

 

Yes, save it to your hard drive, then upload it to the new group.


Re: Fake member requests

John Pearce
 

Paul,? You mention harvesting addresses in a "low key" fashion while in a pending status and you just delete them right away.? It was my understanding that they can not see anything that is set to only be seen by full members in the group settings.? Am I wrong about that...anyone?

John P


Photo Move

 

Is there a way to move photos from one group to another?


Re: Sub Groups

Green Gate Grove
 

Thanks, that worked.


Re: Reply to links in email sent from Announcement-Only Group

 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 02:30 AM, Mark Murphy wrote:


Why would there be Reply To Group, Reply To Sender, and New Topic links in the
footer of messages from an announcement-only group? As expected, if I reply, a
failure message is returned:

500: This is an announcement group and you do not have permission to post to
it.
looks like an oversight


I couldn't find discussion of this in Beta or this forum and wonder if it
would be worth a beta suggestion to remove these links for announcement-only
groups.
yes, sure

Another thing though... announcement-group may not be the best name for it. There are announcement-groups, aka groups that ban discussion, in which all members/subscribers can post announcements

groetjes/?is, Ronaldo


Re: How does a manager delete a posted message from server? (sent emails would remain sent I gather)

 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 07:27 AM, Daniel Kegan wrote:
I infer Topics can be set in web-based message, and a ¡°Topic¡± is defined by its # Hashtag.
If no Hashtag has been assigned by sender to the message, there is no Topic, and thus
¡°Deleting Topic¡± will do nothing, not even Delete all Messages with no Topic.
Topics don't necessarily have hashtags, it's just a group of related messages.? If you click Delete Topic from that page, it will delete that Topic and all the messages in it.? To delete a single message, you have to open the Topic, then use the More menu under the specific message.

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Re: Privacy settings (was: Re: Can a remember remove his own posts?? Not finding the answer....)

 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 09:27 AM, info@... wrote:
Are the privacy settings for google search accessible thru groups.io or elsewhere?? Our chats are members only, definitely not for outside viewing.
It depends on the settings you chose when you set up your group.
See #7 -?/helpcenter/gettingstarted/1/step-3-create-the-group-and-set

And
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/customizing-group-settings/privacy-settings?single=true

If you set Settings, Privacy so that messages are private, they will not appear in Google search or any other search engines. Nor will they be seen by non-members of the group if someone goes to your group homepage. Of course, a member could forward an email to someone else.

Frances
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Privacy settings (was: Re: Can a remember remove his own posts?? Not finding the answer....)

 

Are the privacy settings for google search accessible thru groups.io or elsewhere?? Our chats are members only, definitely not for outside viewing.
thanks!
Lynn SJREIA


Re: How does a manager delete a posted message from server? (sent emails would remain sent I gather)

 

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Shal, ? ? Friday ? 13 November 2020

1. Thanks. My Safari on Mac browser doesn¡¯t seem to display those interface elements, at least not that
I can see, or hunt and find. What browser are you using? 2 Attachments.

2. I skimmed the Owner¡¯s Manual, on Topics.
I infer Topics can be set in web-based message, and a ¡°Topic¡± is defined by its # Hashtag.
If no Hashtag has been assigned by sender to the message, there is no Topic, and thus
¡°Deleting Topic¡± will do nothing, not even Delete all Messages with no Topic.



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On Nov 13, 2020, at 1:29 AM, Shal Farley via <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Daniel,
> How does a manager delete a posted message from server?
Hmm... This appears to have escaped the Members and Owners manuals. There is the related subject of deleting whole topics:
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-group-topics-and-messages/deleting-topics
For an individual message look in the More menu, in the bar under the message.
> (sent emails would remain sent I gather)
Correct.
Some email systems used internally by organizations have an "unsend" capability. And Gmail's web interface has a feature to delay sending for a period of time. But generally speaking, in the world of email once the message has left the sender's email service there's nothing that can be done to "unsend" it.
One exception: if you delete a message from the group's web interface it will not be included in any Digests sent after that time. However, Digests are individually crafted for each member, so if you have a high-traffic group you can't (in general) be sure that the message didn't go out in some member's digest after it was posted but before you deleted it.
Shal


Re: How does a manager delete a posted message from server? (sent emails would remain sent I gather)

 

Daniel,

How does a manager delete a posted message from server?
Hmm... This appears to have escaped the Members and Owners manuals. There is the related subject of deleting whole topics:
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-group-topics-and-messages/deleting-topics

For an individual message look in the More menu, in the bar under the message.

(sent emails would remain sent I gather)
Correct.

Some email systems used internally by organizations have an "unsend" capability. And Gmail's web interface has a feature to delay sending for a period of time. But generally speaking, in the world of email once the message has left the sender's email service there's nothing that can be done to "unsend" it.

One exception: if you delete a message from the group's web interface it will not be included in any Digests sent after that time. However, Digests are individually crafted for each member, so if you have a high-traffic group you can't (in general) be sure that the message didn't go out in some member's digest after it was posted but before you deleted it.

Shal


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Re: Footers (was: customize invitation)

Bruce W Fairhall
 

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Thanks, Shal

I thought I had set mesages to HTML. Need for some review!


Bruce Fairhall

On 13-Nov-20 5:33 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

Bruce,

> The footer in GMF is very different to what I get as default (?) in my
> test message.

That has nothing to do with group settings. The footer in your screenshot is from a plain text message.

As Bruce B said:
? See also /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/5452

> I would just like to know where I can configure it, please.

You can force messages in your group to have a Formatted footer by checking the Force HTML Emails box in the Message Formatting panel of your group's Settings page.

> For example, we only want messages posted by email, although the
> view/reply online is a possible option.

I don't think there is a way to prevent members from posting via the web interface.

Shal




Re: Reply to links in email sent from Announcement-Only Group

 

Mark,

Why would there be Reply To Group, Reply To Sender, and New Topic
links in the footer of messages from an announcement-only group?
Most likely because the code that generates the footer (individual as well as digest) doesn't have a check for that setting.

I would call that an oversight, except... those links could still be of use to moderators & owners who reply by email.

If you make a #suggestion in beta, perhaps include the refinement that the exclusion of those links should only apply to messages sent to members with the Role of Member (rather than Moderator or Owner).

Shal
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Re: Have a new group with topics in place. Replies are all posting as completely new topics. How do I fix this?

 

SWVMA,

I have never had an issue with this before but now all of a sudden one
of my forums (that has set topics for members to reply to) is posting
every single reply as a new topic.
You may have run into the 30-day time limit on using Subject line matches to associate a new message with an existing topic.
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/additional-information/topic-threading-algorithm

But if that's the case, it should only affect message posted by email, by members using an email interface that does not supply either standard reply-linking header field (In-Reply-To or References).

If this is affecting messages posted using the Reply link in the bar under a message in your group's Messages section you should report that as a #bug in the beta group.


If the messages that fail to thread are being posted by email, you can either 1) merge them after the fact, 2) convince the posting member to use a different email interface, or 3) post a #suggestion in beta for a way to mark certain topics as "greedy" - they would ignore the time limit. A hashtag option is the most likely way such a thing would be implemented in Groups.io.

Or, my guess may be completely off-base. If so, please provide additional details about how the messages are being posted and how old the most recent message in the intended topic is, and/or any other information that may seem relevant.

Shal


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Re: Footers (was: customize invitation)

 

Bruce,

The footer in GMF is very different to what I get as default (?) in my
test message.
That has nothing to do with group settings. The footer in your screenshot is from a plain text message.

As Bruce B said:
See also /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/5452

I would just like to know where I can configure it, please.
You can force messages in your group to have a Formatted footer by checking the Force HTML Emails box in the Message Formatting panel of your group's Settings page.

For example, we only want messages posted by email, although the
view/reply online is a possible option.
I don't think there is a way to prevent members from posting via the web interface.

Shal


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How does a manager delete a posted message from server? (sent emails would remain sent I gather)

 

How does a manager delete a posted message from server? (sent emails would remain sent I gather)


Re: Reply to links in email sent from Announcement-Only Group

 

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 08:30 PM, Mark Murphy wrote:
wonder if it would be worth a beta suggestion to remove these links for announcement-only groups.
To me this looks more like a bug than a suggestion; the code that generates the digest doesn't check for/doesn't respect that setting. ?But a suggestion would also work, either way, yes.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Footers (was: customize invitation)

Bruce W Fairhall
 

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Thanks, Bruce

I am yet to bulk invite members to this new group and I'm just testing it on myself and two other group members.
Yes, I am aware of the manual Search but searching on "footer" gives a way to insert a .jpg but not customise the automatic content.

The footer in GMF is very different to what I get as default (?) in my test message. As it was erased in my last message I've attached it here.

I would just like to know where I can configure it, please.
For example, we only want messages posted by email, although the view/reply online is a possible option.

Your further advice would be appreciated.


Bruce Fairhall

On 13-Nov-20 2:28 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 11:54 PM, Bruce W Fairhall wrote:
Now another question which I cannot find answered in the Manual, but the problem is knowing exactly what to search for!!
Bruce -- If you display the manual as a full page (e.g.: /helpcenter/ownersmanual?single=true), you can use the search function of your browser to scan for content.

For most browsers, control-F will bring up the search box.

At the bottom of a Test message posted to our group before we add members, there is a small print Links footnote:
If you pasted the footer here, it didn't come through. Groups.io strips any old, quoted footer before a message posts, replacing it with a new footer (and new links).?

Is it labeled "Groups.io links"? If so, that is the standard footer for individual emails.

However I would prefer to use something like the GMF has (below).?
Again, whatever you provided did not come through.

Where can this be defined, please?
You can put in additional information via group settings (see the Message Footer box under the Message Formatting tab). Other than that, the standard footers cannot be modified.?

See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/5452?

Obviously (??) Mute This Topic is irrelevant - or is that so a user can opt NOT to receive a certain thread of messages?
Exactly.
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Bruce

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Reply to links in email sent from Announcement-Only Group

 

Why would there be Reply To Group, Reply To Sender, and New Topic links in the footer of messages from an announcement-only group? As expected, if I reply, a failure message is returned:

500: This is an announcement group and you do not have permission to post to it.

I couldn't find discussion of this in Beta or this forum and wonder if it would be worth a beta suggestion to remove these links for announcement-only groups.


Have a new group with topics in place. Replies are all posting as completely new topics. How do I fix this?

SWVMA
 

I have never had an issue with this before but now all of a sudden one of my forums (that has set topics for members to reply to) is posting every single reply as a new topic. This won't work. I can't find any setting that says replies will stay under the topic they are replying to. Help...


Re: Fake member requests

 

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 11:17 AM, Marina wrote:

I have a new pending member with a strange aol account, apparently from
Holland.
My group is restricted and prospective members must introduce themselves to be
approved, so I am not particularly worried, but I'll keep all info in case of
a new invasion of fake accounts
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Hello Marina (& All),

Our group is also restricted and we require an Intro Bio of a few sentences for why any new member applicant is interested in our group. That goes a long way towards winnowing out the bogus applications. We have been toying with making our group private but are unsure if that is the best thing to do since it is not revokable.

Likewise though, we have been receiving applications from the Netherlands (NL) and they do not reply to any request for an Intro Bio so we would delete them after a nudge email for the Intro. We noticed that when we deleted one NL applicant another application request is soon sent us in the next few days with a different name and email address but which also IDs from NL.

They just sit there unapproved with these pending memberships each set to receive 'single emails'. We are guessing that they are attempting to harvest email addresses from our members and trying to do so in 'low-key' fashion, so if they're from NL we just delete them right away now. BTW, none of these NL applicants has ever sent us the requested Intro Bio.

OK ¡ª HTH

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving
https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving
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