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Ok, I am stuck again
I can't even get to see any members
"Heaven is full of answers to prayers for which no one ever bothered to ask.
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sugar Lopez Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:46 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] changing profile Shal You have been a great help Thank you Good to know I went to the right place sugar [excess quote trimmed by moderator]
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Re: Hi, new to groups.io, need assistance please
Cara, I have been reading the updates since they began and saw you can send
invites. anyone know how?
I tried putting something on a calendar page, then it was sent to
members. If you are inviting people to an event then that should be all you need to do. When editing the event, in the Notifications section at the bottom, checking "Send Invite To Group" causes a message to be posted in your group immediately when you click the Add Event button. What showed up was a button, outlined in grey, within it was a blue
outlined page, with one corner turned down.
Below this was the link invite.ics Correct. That ICS file is a standard format, members with a compatible personal calendar should be able to import that file to add your event to their calendar. As the owner of the group I tried in my personal email to open it, and
it would not. Interesting. Do you have a personal calendar as part of your AOL subscription? If not that could be the problem. Or maybe AOL's calendar doesn't support ICS files. I don't use AOL so I don't know how to advise you. I believe that other email interfaces, such as Yahoo Mail, Gmail, or even the Thunderbird email client would offer to add the ICS file to your personal calendar. If you use a calendar that isn't integrated with your email interface you ought to be able to save that ICS file, and then import it in your calendar. Not as simple as just clicking on it, but possibly easier and less error-prone than manually copying the info into your calendar. Shal
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Shal
You have been a great help
Thank you
Good to know I went to the right place
sugar
"Heaven is full of answers to prayers for which no one ever bothered to ask.
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Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:
Bless you, Sugar Lopez
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Shal Farley Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:10 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] changing profile Sugar, > I am or supposed to be a moderator for a group ... Go to your group list here: /There will be an "Owner" or "Mod" badge next to any groups you are owner or mod for. If you have neither badge next to the group name in question then that group's owner (or a sufficiently permitted mod) will need to promote you. If instead of a list of groups that page shows you general info about Groups.io then you are not logged in. You will need to log in (using the email address which is registered in the group) and then go back to that page. > ... and I am not able to see the directory (read the directory) ... "Directory"? Do you mean that or do you mean the group's Members list? You can't use the Directory to remove anyone, so you must mean the Members list. Go to the group and (if you are at least a moderator) you should see an "Admin" item in the left column. Click on that to expand the Admin controls for the group; the Members list is one of the items there. > ... because it says that I have to change my profile settings? I can't make any sense of this statement. I'd need to know what page you were on to have a clue what "it" said that, and what it might have meant. > So I have. I am currently on owner and mods only and since that does > not work I am assuming that my owner is having difficulty trying to > make me moderator. I'm again at a loss to understand what you're trying to say. But maybe that will be moot once you go to your group list and check whether you have the appropriate badge there. > I have and she has tried to locate Mark and I know with the holidays > it is a bit crazy. It doesn't sound to me like this is an issue that needs Mark's attention. I think you're in the right place. > So now I need to remove someone and I can't even have the list of > members shown to me. Try these steps: o Use the groups list to verify whether you are a mod or owner. o Click on the group name in that list to get to the group. o Click on Admin to open up the Admin links o Click on Members to see the members list. At this point the Members page may be showing you the Members list, or the list of Pending members if there are any. If the button at the top of the list says "Pending Approval" click on it, and select "Members" instead. o Use the Search box to find the member you wish to remove, or scroll down the list to find the member, if the list isn't too long. o Click the check box next to the member's name o In the Actions menu at the bottom of the page select "Remove". > It just show myself and it says 1 out of 36 but just myself. > > Even if I change the profile to group members, still nothing I don't know what you're looking at there, but I don't think you're using the word Profile correctly - as that would have to do with your own subscription, not with admin control over your group. Shal
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Good point about the mobile web browser. But what we have going on is several people that don't ever check their emails but text constantly all day long. So never respond to email and miss notifications. As you can probably guess, this is the younger members of our group.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Michael,
> So the quick answer to this is that it works. If you add someone as a
> user through the normal process but use phonenumber@carrier then they
> will receive text messages when a post is made.
Excellent!
> However, you cannot reply via text, it gets rejected by Groups.io. I
> assume because it's missing all the email headers.
The key is the "From" address. It must match the subscribed address or else the reply will be rejected as "not a member" (unless your group allows non-members to post). If that's what happened you should see a "Non-member" entry in the group's Message Activity log for the attempt.
If you find that entry make note of the exact email address reported. You can (when logged in under the subscribed address) add that sending address as an Email Alias on the Subscribed address' Account page, Login section. It is under the "Advanced Settings" expander at the bottom.
If the email gateway always sends replies with that same address then those should post as if posted under the subscribed address.
> You can, however, click on the "View/Reply Online" link and reply in a
> mobile web browser.
If your device has a mobile web browser it may be fair to ask why you're bothering with SMS rather than just using an email service. But to each his own.? ;-)
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Michael, So the quick answer to this is that it works. If you add someone as a
user through the normal process but use phonenumber@carrier then they
will receive text messages when a post is made. Excellent! However, you cannot reply via text, it gets rejected by Groups.io. I
assume because it's missing all the email headers. The key is the "From" address. It must match the subscribed address or else the reply will be rejected as "not a member" (unless your group allows non-members to post). If that's what happened you should see a "Non-member" entry in the group's Message Activity log for the attempt. If you find that entry make note of the exact email address reported. You can (when logged in under the subscribed address) add that sending address as an Email Alias on the Subscribed address' Account page, Login section. It is under the "Advanced Settings" expander at the bottom. If the email gateway always sends replies with that same address then those should post as if posted under the subscribed address. You can, however, click on the "View/Reply Online" link and reply in a
mobile web browser. If your device has a mobile web browser it may be fair to ask why you're bothering with SMS rather than just using an email service. But to each his own. ;-) Shal
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Sugar, I am or supposed to be a moderator for a group ... Go to your group list here: /There will be an "Owner" or "Mod" badge next to any groups you are owner or mod for. If you have neither badge next to the group name in question then that group's owner (or a sufficiently permitted mod) will need to promote you. If instead of a list of groups that page shows you general info about Groups.io then you are not logged in. You will need to log in (using the email address which is registered in the group) and then go back to that page. ... and I am not able to see the directory (read the directory) ... "Directory"? Do you mean that or do you mean the group's Members list? You can't use the Directory to remove anyone, so you must mean the Members list. Go to the group and (if you are at least a moderator) you should see an "Admin" item in the left column. Click on that to expand the Admin controls for the group; the Members list is one of the items there. ... because it says that I have to change my profile settings? I can't make any sense of this statement. I'd need to know what page you were on to have a clue what "it" said that, and what it might have meant. So I have. I am currently on owner and mods only and since that does
not work I am assuming that my owner is having difficulty trying to
make me moderator. I'm again at a loss to understand what you're trying to say. But maybe that will be moot once you go to your group list and check whether you have the appropriate badge there. I have and she has tried to locate Mark and I know with the holidays
it is a bit crazy. It doesn't sound to me like this is an issue that needs Mark's attention. I think you're in the right place. So now I need to remove someone and I can¡¯t even have the list of
members shown to me. Try these steps: o Use the groups list to verify whether you are a mod or owner. o Click on the group name in that list to get to the group. o Click on Admin to open up the Admin links o Click on Members to see the members list. At this point the Members page may be showing you the Members list, or the list of Pending members if there are any. If the button at the top of the list says "Pending Approval" click on it, and select "Members" instead. o Use the Search box to find the member you wish to remove, or scroll down the list to find the member, if the list isn't too long. o Click the check box next to the member's name o In the Actions menu at the bottom of the page select "Remove". It just show myself and it says 1 out of 36 but just myself.
Even if I change the profile to group members, still nothing I don't know what you're looking at there, but I don't think you're using the word Profile correctly - as that would have to do with your own subscription, not with admin control over your group. Shal
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So the quick answer to this is that it works. If you add someone as a user through the normal process but use phonenumber@carrier then they will receive text messages when a post is made. However, you cannot reply via text, it gets rejected by Groups.io. I assume because it's missing all the email headers. You can, however, click on the "View/Reply Online" link and reply in a mobile web browser.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Mike Vorkapich <mvorkapich@...> wrote: OK, thanks again. We may give it a try.
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Hello, it sounds like the issues that you¡¯re dealing with, means that she needs to go and I¡¯m just sitting under your membership on her in. She needs to change member to Moderator. And then she can specify different options that you can be able to do my adjusting the checkboxes better in that section.
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On Jan 10, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Sugar Lopez < sugarsyl71@...> wrote: Hello everyone I am or supposed to be a moderator for a group and I am not able to see the directory(read the directory) because it says that I have to change my profile settings? So I have. I am currently on owner and mods only and since that does not work I am assuming that my owner is having difficulty trying to make me moderator. I have and she has tried to locate Mark and I know with the holidays it is a bit crazy. Smile So now I need to remove someone and I can¡¯t even have the list of members shown to me. It just show myself and it says 1 out of 36 but just myself. Even if I change the profile to group members, still nothing Can someone help please? Sugar ? ? 'Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of strength that will endure as long as life lasts.:
? Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at: ? Bless you, Sugar Lopez ? ? ? ? ? ?
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OK, thanks again. We may give it a try.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Michael,
> Do you know if using email to text would work? ie
> 1234567890@... ?
I don't know.
It has been ages (when I owned a basic flip-phone) since I've tried using a carrier's SMS gateway with an email list (a Yahoo Group). I seem to recall that I made it work, sort-of, but it wasn't very useful. Something like the 160 character limit was all consumed by the email address and other stuff, leaving no room for the message text itself.
In Groups.io the first challenge would be getting the gateway address confirmed - you'd have to be able to reply to the confirmation message and I think that was a sticking point. Or, if you have a premium group you could avoid that problem by using Direct Add.
If you run the experiment and get a useful result that would be a nice how-to article to post here, and/or in GMF's Wiki.
Shal
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Michael, Do you know if using email to text would work? ie
1234567890@... ? I don't know. It has been ages (when I owned a basic flip-phone) since I've tried using a carrier's SMS gateway with an email list (a Yahoo Group). I seem to recall that I made it work, sort-of, but it wasn't very useful. Something like the 160 character limit was all consumed by the email address and other stuff, leaving no room for the message text itself. In Groups.io the first challenge would be getting the gateway address confirmed - you'd have to be able to reply to the confirmation message and I think that was a sticking point. Or, if you have a premium group you could avoid that problem by using Direct Add. If you run the experiment and get a useful result that would be a nice how-to article to post here, and/or in GMF's Wiki. Shal
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On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Mike,
> Is there now or is there a future plan to include the ability to send
> SMS / Text messages to phones?
It has been discussed, but I don't think there's a plan.
One issue is that there's a cost for sending them, so it would have to be a paid group, or paid memberships, or something (see Mark's reply in the second message of that topic).
That topic is now locked, so you'd have to start a new one to bring it up again.
Shal
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Re: question about banning a member for all of your groups
Oh, I know this member will not get a new email address. In fact all the members I've band won't. If they do I will find out about it and ban them.?They are not welcome.
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Thanks for all help. I've ?just copied and pasted the addresses to my other groups I run.
On Jan 9, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Paul, Ohio, USA via Groups.Io < pwberndt@...> wrote:
Hi Sarah,
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I believe there is no way to ban anyone permanently, unless you have a group that is membership by invitation only & you have to know the person outside of the group, then you already have the ability to keep someone out. Otherwise, all the banned member has to do is get a new email address and apply for membership.
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Mike, Is there now or is there a future plan to include the ability to send
SMS / Text messages to phones? It has been discussed, but I don't think there's a plan. One issue is that there's a cost for sending them, so it would have to be a paid group, or paid memberships, or something (see Mark's reply in the second message of that topic). That topic is now locked, so you'd have to start a new one to bring it up again. Shal
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Is there now or is there a future plan to include the ability to send SMS / Text messages to phones?
One of the groups I am managing contains a bunch of people that almost never use email but very often phone texting.
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Pedja, I am new to this. I just created my first group and set it to bi
private. It seems it is not visible even for me. I just get error
Hmm. We¡¯re having trouble finding that site.
We can¡¯t connect to the server at ... It sounds like you have the address wrong, and/or are not logged in to Groups.io. Try going here: /If that page shows you a list of your group memberships then click on the group you wish to visit. If that page shows you general information about Groups.io then you are not logged in. When you log in, be sure to use the same email address that you used when you created your group. Then go back to that page. Actually, after I created group it seemed normal, but then I decided
to set how subgroups work, and created subgroup which I also set to be
private. After that I was unable to access group or subgroup. Creating a subgroup does change the address (both web and email) for your group, but the old address should still work - it should automatically redirect you to the new address. And in any case, the group should be in your group list (at the link above). Shal
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John Mc, Has there been any thought/discussion to add one (or more) fields to
the member information? There is one "extra" field. If you open a member's page there's the "Notes" tab. Alas, that feature is rather out-of-sight-out-of-mind right now, there's no indication given in the list that it holds content, and there are no notifications when a moderator updates that field. At least the update does get logged in the Moderator Activity log. Not trying to turn the member list into a full-out database - but for
some lists it's nice to have one more bit of information about a
person. What street you live on for the neighborhood list. What
your plot number is for the community garden list. Stuff like that. I've often wished for functionality like this, but I've never come up with a proposed "best" way to do it. Just adding more fields to the Members list is one approach. But it can make that list cluttered, which could ultimately be an impediment to its primary use cases. Maybe there would be a clever way to manage what is shown when there are too many columns to fit the user's window; a bit like Excel's split and/or freeze features. I've also thought of having it be another selector, "Notes", in the Members list view button that currently selects Members, Moderators, Pending, Bouncing, or Banned. When "Notes" is selected then the custom fields are shown rather than the standard fields. But I think you'd have to have at least the email field automatically included, or both email and Display name. So you rapidly run into the same width problem as having them in the primary members list. A pro or con of those ideas (depending on your use case) is that it would be available only to moderators. Possibly one could do a similar thing built on the member Directory so that it could be made available to members if desired. In my classmate groups it would be desirable to allow members to add their current address, phone number, nick-name in school, activities, or other information to help everyone remember them. Even a second "then" picture to go with their current profile photo/avatar. Couldn't find anything searching old topics - is this wish list
worthy? I'd say yes. We could kick it around here some more if you like, or just go for it in beta. Shal
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Hello everyone I am or supposed to be a moderator for a group and I am not able to see the directory(read the directory) because it says that I have to change my profile settings? So I have. I am currently on owner and mods only and since that does not work I am assuming that my owner is having difficulty trying to make me moderator. I have and she has tried to locate Mark and I know with the holidays it is a bit crazy. Smile So now I need to remove someone and I can¡¯t even have the list of members shown to me. It just show myself and it says 1 out of 36 but just myself. Even if I change the profile to group members, still nothing Can someone help please? Sugar ? ? 'Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of strength that will endure as long as life lasts.:
? Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at: ? Bless you, Sugar Lopez ? ? ? ? ? ?
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I have to confess I and my members also miss the comments feature. I get off list messages, mags please enable comments for photos, so I respond with, sorry it simply isn't in my power to do that, sigh, despite all the moans we had about Yahoo groups, it did spoil us.
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Re: How do you get members to join your group?
#promotion
I started a Yahoo group in 2004, did a short 'about' write up outlining what was offered, would be subscribers had to send a brief message saying why they wanted to join. Within a week I had a dozen members, growth was slow, but gradually as word spread within the area my group covered, the dozen became 2500. In 2004 my area of interest existed in a small niche software market, machine embroidery software, I made videos showing how a small selection of the programs worked and how to use them. As a listed group I attracted 'freeby hunters', and group collectors, one boasted she belonged to over 100 groups, so in 2007 I altered the group to be an unlisted one, sent mails at weekly intervals stating I would remove all 'special' notices members, ( treat all members as vips so 'special Notices' members never got information) permanent bouncers, anyone that didn't respond with I want to continue my membership by a given date. They had 2 months to decide. I culled the membership to 700, was unlisted, put all members on permanent moderation, appointed 2 moderators, and made membership by invitation only.?
I made the move to Groups.io Dec 31st, informed my members, asked them to let me know if they wanted to be part of the move, they have until Feb 28th to make up their minds, on March 1st I will simply delete the old group. After I unlisted my Yahoo group all new member requests came via existing member requests. I intend to stick with the same procedure here in Groups.io, I neither desire or want members that are not interested in learning how to improve their skill set, offer support and encouragement to fellow old and new members. If what you offer via your group proves to be of value, word of mouth becomes a great marketing tool, but be warned as word of mouth can also destroy a group if members feel a group doesn't fulfil its members needs. So far my new group here has 124 members, it will grow slowly but that's what I want, I have no desire to own the biggest group there is, I want my members to enjoy their membership experience.?
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