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Re: Question about moderated messages

 

I'm seeing a message "claimed" by another Moderator that I am unable to delete or reject. ?I try repeatedly, but nothing happens. ?Any idea why that is, or what's happening?
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There is a wiki page about moderation that has this:
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Claimed messages: ?If you ?open a message to moderate, a Claimed tag with your name will appear.
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You can edit the message and then save it to look again after an edit.?
You complete the approval / moderation of a message by clicking save and approve.
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No one can approve or reject a claimed pending message by email, but working on the web the claim only gives other moderators a warning - it doesn't actually prevent other moderators from "jumping your claim".
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This is why it is unnecessary to have a way to remove the claim - if you become unable to ultimately approve or delete/reject the pending message, another moderator can step in and do it for you. Hopefully that's an infrequent occurrence.
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Re: Question about moderated messages

 

> Such "claimed" messages will remain in Pending indefinitely until you or another Moderator further processes them.

I'm seeing a message "claimed" by another Moderator that I am unable to delete or reject.? I try repeatedly, but nothing happens.? Any idea why that is, or what's happening?
Re: Can I Send Group Guidelines as an Attachment #howto #membernotices #question

 

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:13 AM, Ann Wild wrote:
i just need to figure out the best way to get new members to read the Guidelines. ?Right now I am sending out private emails with the Guidelines attached as a pdf file, ?but I was hoping for a more automated method through groups.io.
Just re-read your original post. You were aware of some of the functions of Guidelines already. Sorry.?

Since you can get a URL for Guidelines on your group homepage and the Welcome notice allows you to add a link to it, could that work? That would be automated.

Frances
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Re: Can I Send Group Guidelines as an Attachment #howto #membernotices #question

 

On 14 Nov 2019 16:56, Ann Wild via Groups.Io wrote:

Our group's Guidelines are long, so I am wondering if there is a way to send them out to new members as an attachment through groyps.io?
I wonder if this would work (can't try it, sorry): upload the guidelines as a file and then select the option "notify members" when uploading the file. It won't be an attachment but it'll contain a link to the file.

Samuel
Re: Removing the Blue or Red Bounce Indicators #bouncedemails

 

If the bounce emblem is still on that means the subscriber hasn't
responded to the bounce probes. They must do so before they can be
unbounced. You can try sending them a message directly from your own
email address to see if it bounces and/or notify them that they need to
respond to the bounce probe.

See the info at
"/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/dealing-with-bouncing"

I generally follow the routine of sending additional bounce probes
(Groups.io sends some as well) until the bounce symbol turns red. At
that point I send the subscriber a message directly from my own email
address. If they respond we try to figure out what it happening. If
that email bounces (this is usually the case) I then delete the
subscriber from the group. The only exception is in the rare case where
I know the subscriber personally. In that case I will try to get in
touch with them through alternate means.

Jonathan

On 11/14/2019 2:12 PM, Stan Garfield wrote:
I recently migrated a group from Yahoo and am going through the
membership list to fix the bouncing email addresses.? I notice that even
after I do so, and a bounce probe is successfully delivered, the blue or
red bounce indicator remains on the member's entry.

Given that I have provided a new email address that works, I think that
the bounce indicator should then go away.? But I continue to see
numerous blue and red indicators, which makes it hard to zero in on the
addresses that are actually still bouncing.? I have to access each such
member and review the email delivery history.

If the bounce indicator is on, does this mean that no email is being
delivered?? This does not make sense if an new email address has been
provided and bounce probed successfully.? I would like the system to
take note that a new email address was provided, and to reset the bounce
indicator.

Is there a way to easily and predictably reset the bouncing status?? Or
does this need to be an enhancement request?
Re: Removing the Blue or Red Bounce Indicators #bouncedemails

 

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 09:01 PM, Stan Garfield wrote:
and a bounce probe is successfully delivered, the blue or red bounce indicator remains on the member's entry.
"successfully delivered" as evidenced by what?

Given that I have provided a new email address that works,
I don't understand that; whose email address is "new"?

The successful delivery of a bounce probe is but one step of several needed to unbounce the member's email address.

Have you read the Groups.io help on bouncing? See here. There is also a GMF wifi section on bouncing here.

Chris
Re: Owner died - how can I transfer yahoo-group without being able to add a new moderator? #owner #transfer

 

There are discussions on how the data was processed after download.
Search the archives of this list.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:11 PM Andrea <elmourabita@...> wrote:

Thanks a lot. OK - I fear we have to do the PG4 download. But - yes, what to do with it afterwards?

Many greetings
Andrea


Am 14.11.19 um 21:55 schrieb Laurence Marks:
M K Ramadoss wrote
PG4? Offline is the only solution.
Hurry up and get everything downloaded before Yahoo falls apart. Already intermittent problems reported.

But Andrea asked for a transfer to Groups.io. Right now there is no path from a PG4 download to Groups.io.

Wilson Logan is working on a way to upload the PG4 information, but it's not quite ready for prime time. Best to get the PG4 download completed and wait until it's ready. That's my plan.

Larry
Re: Removing the Blue or Red Bounce Indicators #bouncedemails

 

If the member is a member of another group on Groups.io, and the email address isn't changed there, I understand that the B won't disappear. As someone mentioned, you can check the account activity. Go to Members and use the buttons along the top - Activity, Email Delivery.

I hope you saw this too:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Dealing-with-Bouncing

Frances
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Re: Owner died - how can I transfer yahoo-group without being able to add a new moderator? #owner #transfer

 

Well, you can't, at this point, have them as a message archive as you would if you were transferred.

See this from the FAQ on transferring -?

10. What are my alternatives to paying for the Premium Yearly plan?
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(a) Moving members yourself:
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You can Upgrade your group to the Premium for one month plan ($20 USD) in order to upload a list of members (Direct Add). However everything else would need to be copied manually.
Details:
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On the Basic plan (free) you can upload a list of members to the Invite page. Similar to a Yahoo Group, it sends an invitation to each email address and the invitee must receive and respond to the invitation before they are added to the Members list.
To obtain a list of your Yahoo Group members you can go to the Manage Members page and in the Actions menu Export (download) a csv or tsv format file. It is best to open the file in a spreadsheet like Excel, then you can easily copy the Email column to paste into the Direct Add or Invite page. Note: this is only for groups with 1000 or fewer members, due to Yahoo's Export restriction.
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Send a message to your YahooGroups members on YahooGroups inviting them to join your new home. Include the URL. Or tell them to send a blank email to the Subscribe email address found at the bottom of your group's home page (that is, [GROUPNAME][email protected] ?substituting the real group name for GROUPNAME). Since you won't be using a G.io invitation, you may have trouble tracking members who don't respond.?
(b) Moving message archive, photos, etc. yourself:
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You can download content from Yahoo - see /g/GroupManagersForum/message/19430?
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There are a few third-party solutions to do that, including PG OFFLINE, and a
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The problem is what to do with the message archive once downloaded; as there is really no good way to re-upload it to groups.io, to re-link individual messages to their owners, or to provide online message search capability. ?It's not the same as a transfer and loses "ownership", but Lena has a way to get the messages into the archive, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251?
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An option is simply to print the collection of old messages to a PDF file; at which point you can upload that to the files area of your group. That will give you something, even if it isn't conveniently indexed and searchable.
Currently ?(Nov 2019), the only way to have the correct ownership for files is to have the owner upload it.
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(c) Photos and files:
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You'd need to move them manually if you're not paying for a transfer. ?It can be time consuming and "ownership" of all the items will be in your name. ?If the person that originally uploaded a picture is on the new group, you can manually assign ownership to them (if you know who it was.) ?There's currently not a similar function for Files.

Frances
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Re: Owner died - how can I transfer yahoo-group without being able to add a new moderator? #owner #transfer

 

You can try PG4 offline program.
At least you can download all the messages and contents before Yahoo goes down


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:01 PM Dennis Steckley <palrefrev@...> wrote:
One of the problems now is that yahoo is all over the place with what it
allows or disallows at any given moment.? One group I'm trying to move
currently won't let moderators issue invitations even though it always
has in the past.? Yet another group won't let the owner into her own
group so she can change the settings. Another group sometimes labels
moderators as moderators and an hour later calls them owners--so if you
can catch the right flip-flop, you can do it.

Dennis Steckley.
Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

 

Most of our members had gotten the 'no data' as well.? That's when we knew to jump onto the PGOffline tool after reading the PGOffline forums and how well the software worked.?

We were able to grab ALL of our data, files, messages, photos, database, etc.?

Then there were spin off groups over the years, 3 of them actually.? We didn't have to pay again or again or again to snag all of the spin off groups.?

Next we took all of the messages and saved them as archive FILES.? HTML, .ods, .csv, and .xlsx? This way, a person can search and filter to a certain topic, subject or keyword(s) very quickly.? Actually faster than poking around on Yahoo for the most part.
Re: Owner died - how can I transfer yahoo-group without being able to add a new moderator? #owner #transfer

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Thanks a lot. OK - I fear we have to do the PG4 download. But - yes, what to do with it afterwards?

Many greetings
Andrea


Am 14.11.19 um 21:55 schrieb Laurence Marks:

M K Ramadoss wrote
PG4? Offline is the only solution.
Hurry up and get everything downloaded before Yahoo falls apart. Already intermittent problems reported.

But Andrea asked for a transfer to Groups.io. Right now there is no path from a PG4 download to Groups.io.

Wilson Logan is working on a way to upload the PG4 information, but it's not quite ready for prime time. Best to get the PG4 download completed and wait until it's ready. That's my plan.

Larry
Re: Can I Send Group Guidelines as an Attachment #howto #membernotices #question

 

BTW, since guidelines appears on your homepage, it has an URL. And you can save it as a PDF. I just did for GMF on my Mac. See the attachment.

Frances

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[email protected] _ Guidelines.pdf
[email protected] _ Guidelines.pdf

Re: Can I Send Group Guidelines as an Attachment #howto #membernotices #question

 

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 04:01 PM, Ann Wild wrote:
You may be right, but if I send the Guidelines as a pdf, that file can be saved on the receiver's computer and read and referred to at any time.? The single member notice containing the Guidelines is likely to be lost.? I was just hoping for an attachment work-around.
Anne, your Guidelines document would also be saved in your group page. See GMF's homepage and it it the second item after Home.

Frances
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Re: Can I Send Group Guidelines as an Attachment #howto #membernotices #question

 

You may be right, but if I send the Guidelines as a pdf, that file can be saved on the receiver's computer and read and referred to at any time.? The single member notice containing the Guidelines is likely to be lost.? I was just hoping for an attachment work-around.
Re: Owner died - how can I transfer yahoo-group without being able to add a new moderator? #owner #transfer

 

One of the problems now is that yahoo is all over the place with what it allows or disallows at any given moment.? One group I'm trying to move currently won't let moderators issue invitations even though it always has in the past.? Yet another group won't let the owner into her own group so she can change the settings. Another group sometimes labels moderators as moderators and an hour later calls them owners--so if you can catch the right flip-flop, you can do it.

Dennis Steckley.
Removing the Blue or Red Bounce Indicators #bouncedemails

 

I recently migrated a group from Yahoo and am going through the membership list to fix the bouncing email addresses.? I notice that even after I do so, and a bounce probe is successfully delivered, the blue or red bounce indicator remains on the member's entry.

Given that I have provided a new email address that works, I think that the bounce indicator should then go away.? But I continue to see numerous blue and red indicators, which makes it hard to zero in on the addresses that are actually still bouncing.? I have to access each such member and review the email delivery history.

If the bounce indicator is on, does this mean that no email is being delivered?? This does not make sense if an new email address has been provided and bounce probed successfully.? I would like the system to take note that a new email address was provided, and to reset the bounce indicator.

Is there a way to easily and predictably reset the bouncing status?? Or does this need to be an enhancement request?
Checking transfer status of group I co-own

 

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I asked yesterday how I can check the progress of our group transfer from yahoo.? I co own a group.? The other owner paid the fee.? Now he is in the hospital or at least unavailable.? We initiated the payment and request just before the fee increase.? We have seen no progress to indicate that anything has been done.? Someone mentioned a couple of weeks ago that the info had probably already been grabbed from yahoo but the upload to groups.io was the holdup.? The natives are starting to get restless so is there any way to see what is in the list?? Even to know numbers (how many are on the non priority list, how many are done in an average day, etc) would be helpful in reassuring the list members that it will happen before the deadline.

I found it very odd that a co-owner can't see the transfer progress if that owner was not the one that paid the fee and initiated the transfer request.? Has that been asked/mentioned in beta?

Thank you.

Jim

Gmail problem

 

Hello,?
I have started several groups with??two of which I have paid the $220 to transfer. Suddenly I noticed that the ones I started with my Gmail address have disappeared. I am the only owner of these groups and was owner through myGmail address this means I have no access to management of the groups. I am getting email to approve the first posts of members, but cannot access the management icon. I get mail from the io.groups which I also joined with my?bellsouth email account. but none through the groups with gmail accounts.

I had to resubscribe to this group to be able to send this email, though I have been a member for months.?
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Also, it has been a couple weeks since I paid for one group to transferred and I can not find any record of the status, but they took my money.

What are my options?
Thanks,

Please help me,
Rescrapeing Queries

 

One of my groups with about 70,000 messages was transferred and the after action report showed perhaps a score of messages not transferred because of Ysahoo issues.
I've looked up thr message numbers and they are present on Yahoo still. I believe it's possible to retransfer just the messages.

Queries:

Is it necessary to delete the entire message file on Groups.io ?

What happens to the messages received by Groups.io in the interim between group startup and the new transfer?
At the moment, those messages seem to be assigned a new number series series, starting at #1.

For example, suppose a Yahoo group had 5000 messages at the time of scraping, and 5 messages were received at the Groups group in the interim between foundation and upload,
the message sequence would look like:

#4997
#4998
#4999
#5000
#1
#2
#3
#4
#5
#5001
#5002
#5003


After? the rescraping and reload, would the #1 to #5 be lost?

Thank you.

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