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On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 11:34 AM, Chris Jones wrote:

The earth won't stop spinning if an existing Yahoo member is admitted in advance but it will upset the ownership details of their material imported into Groups.io

Chris -- Do you have recent evidence that content ownership is truly lost if someone joins the GIO group early...despite using the correct Y!G email address? If that is true, Mark has stated that would be a bug in the transfer process (Ref:?), and it needs to be reported to him.

The only things I know for sure would be affected by joining early is:
1) the [vanity] join date and
2) the subsequent interleaving of message numbers.

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Bruce

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On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 05:35 PM, <harleyrandomboy@...> wrote:

I think the monthly message was the same very month, and I assume it will be that way on groups.io.

Unless it is edited between times then that is correct.

Reading between the lines what you intend is that there should be a message sent every month with new material in it set up and sent by the new owner.

Looking at the sample list of standard per group email addresses above (see Frances's post) which address do you think is the correct one? If it helps, cross - reference with your expiring Yahoo list of equivalents for a clue.

Chris

Woohoo!? Last night there were 19 groups ahead of us, this morning, 0.? It took 15 days from start to finish (began on 10/20).

The data for all the groups you belong to comes in one zip file (almost 1 GB for me), with sub-folders for each group, further divided into sub-folders for messages, files, photos, links etc.

Lily

Check the red status box on top of the transfer page. If it says to send the invite, do it again. One you do, keep that page up until they accept it.

I didn’t realize that my sent invite was lost in space at some point, and lost of week waiting for it.

Diane

have you checked out the alternatives -/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups see FAQ #10

Frances

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I think the monthly message was the same very month, and I assume it will be that way on groups.io. What it will say depends on who is in charge of the group. I have determined that will not be me. But the man who is giving up the group said he is asking some friends about taking over.?

Okay, thanks. Well, then I can't do it.?

I have the messages in my daily digests in emails, but they'll just be harder to find.

I read that they are created when entered in the subject line...?

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 12:36 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

Gerald,

> In order to download your groups' data, you must be logged into Yahoo
> using the Yahoo account that can see all of your Yahoo groups.

Understood, and I was.

> It doesn't matter which email addresses you have defined for the
> individual group "Identity".

Do you have evidence for that, or is it just a logical assumption. I
assumed that too, but I was given the "no data" answer.

Logical assumption. How else would Yahoo know which groups to download?

I had several identity addresses that I used to sort out emails from different groups. Some were Yahoo and others weren't. That did not cause any issues.??My download included all of my groups that I still belong to.

(FYI: The download also included files and photos that were uploaded after the supposed October 28 deadline.)

> However, I suspect you also must have gone through the "Oath"
> acceptance.

I accepted their TOS early on, when first required. So that's not the
issue in my case.

Shal


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Gerald

I suspect that your original invitation from Yahoo Groups to the Groups.io transfer email address was never sent by Yahoo Groups (in my experience with transferring 19 groups, I have found that 3 out of 10 invitations fail because Yahoo Groups is so flaky. If I were in your shoes, I would re-send the invitation from the Yahoo Group immediately.?

I logged in with my Yahoo ID when requesting the Yahoo groups data download. My default email address is at gmail.com
After 8 days, I receive notification that my Yahoo groups data is ready for download today. As far as I can tell, I see data from all the groups I belong to, not just the ones I manage. For those who got no data, perhaps try again?

Lily

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 02:25 PM, Frances wrote:

My only suggestion - name your subgroup so it is obvious which is which. Then no Board member will post on the wrong one.

Does this not overlook the possibility of simple human error? The sentence would then read Then no Board member should post on the wrong one.

It only needs a momentary loss of focus to send a sensitive post to the wrong place, especially if all it needs is to select the wrong email address. Opportunities for human error may be reduced, but they cannot be eliminated altogether.

Chris

CL,

I've thought of directly adding the Groups.io group address to the
Yahoo group, but it looks like Yahoo is requiring a Yahoo ID for that
now.

I was able to do this.

One key is to check the "Allow Non Subscribers to Post" box in the Groups.io group. That does mean that I need to approve all such posts, but because the Yahoo Group is not a member of the Groups.io group the original poster's From information comes through in the display name of the message. Also, there is no chance of a message loop.

I don't recall if it was the -subscribe request (spoofed From the Groups.io posting address, courtesy of my Yahoo Mail account) or the invite that worked. In the case of an invite it would be important to check the "Add only to mailing list" box to avoid the need to associate it with a Yahoo ID (account).

The result is a bit ugly though, as the messages come through with the Groups.io footer appended below the Yahoo Group footer.

I would rather have used an Email Integration address than the group's posting address for this, to avoid the moderation requirement, but Yahoo Groups called the coded integration address Invalid and wouldn't let me invite it, nor respond to it when it tried to -subscribe.

Shal


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It is in the “More” menu (at the bottom) on a mobile devise.


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What is this 'Easy Group Transfer'?

Dave -- For details on this, just click the link, found at the very bottom of every page here in groups.io (may not be visible on your mobile device).