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Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

Gerald Boutin
 

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 09:37 PM, kg4ype@... wrote:
I feel like this mail server has more problems than it worth. All I get is messages of all the problems is there a way where I can sttop it. WAY TOO MUCH JUNK.


One man's junk is another's treasure.

You can control the level of information you receive from this group in your Subscription settings.

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Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

I feel like this mail server has more problems than it worth. All I get is messages of all the problems is there a way where I can sttop it. WAY TOO MUCH JUNK.

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From: Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 16:22:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GMF] Groups.io site updates #changelog

Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


> NEW: More work on the new notifications system.

There are some ongoing topics in beta about this, for those interested
in helping to define how it should work.


> BUGFIX: Subscribing to a subgroup via email did not work.

Sounds like this topic has been fixed:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/33163576


> BUGFIX: After creating a group, fix text for groups that are unlisted
> but with public archives.

A minor nit I noticed while setting up another test group. The landing
page said my group would appear in the listings, where I had selected
that it would not.


Comments about these are welcome:

> API: Changed gallery_url field in the photo and attachment objects to
> thumbnail_url because it's more clear.
> API: Added getalbums and getphotos endpoints.
> API: Changed profile_photo_id field in member_info to
> profile_photo_url.
> BUGFIX: We had disabled signature parsing in plain text messages where
> we couldn't tell if the sig was part of the reply or the original
> message. That change wasn't also added to html messages.
> BUGFIX: Fixed a loophole that would sometimes allow emails from
> numbered accounts through.
> API: Added /chatmembers endpoint.
> API: Fixed bug in /joinchat endpoint that caused it to return a
> no_group_specified error.
> API: Added updateprofile endpoint.
> API: Added num_drafts field to member_info object.
> API: Added updateprofilephoto and deleteprofilephoto endpoints.
> CHANGE: No longer allowing the CSS height attribute because in some
> instances we were ending up with archives that had overlapping text
> at the bottom.


Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Re: Wiki revision about joining a group or Groups.io #wiki #membership

 

Okay, I have started it! Please feel free to adjust, edit, fix whatever you think needs it.

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Joining-a-group

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Re: Database secured to Moderators and Owners

 

Doug,

I think, but want to find out for sure that it could be a database
that would have access only to moderators and Owners.
You can.

In the table properties, there is a section of Permissions. Included is who can View or Edit the table, and who can Add or Edit rows. All can be restricted to Moderators (and the Table / Row owner, who in this case would be a moderator).

Shal


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Re: [email protected]

 

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Ok, I see how this works now.

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Thanks you for the help.

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Don
Re: [email protected]

 

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 05:09 PM, Don Grass wrote:
What is the purpose of this [the groupname+help address] if it doesn¡¯t do anything?
Sending any message to the +help address automatically returns a list of available email commands, similar to the ones available in the old internet Listserv software. Try it and you'll see what I mean.

See also?/static/help#emailcommands?

Hope this helps,
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Re: [email protected]

 

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What is the purpose of this if it doesn¡¯t do anything?

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Don

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Duane
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] [email protected]

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On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 01:48 PM, Don Grass wrote:

Where does the email link group [email protected] on our group¡¯s homepage go too?

It's an auto-responder address, so it isn't sent on to anyone.

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Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


NEW: More work on the new notifications system.
There are some ongoing topics in beta about this, for those interested in helping to define how it should work.


BUGFIX: Subscribing to a subgroup via email did not work.
Sounds like this topic has been fixed:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/33163576


BUGFIX: After creating a group, fix text for groups that are unlisted
but with public archives.
A minor nit I noticed while setting up another test group. The landing page said my group would appear in the listings, where I had selected that it would not.


Comments about these are welcome:

API: Changed gallery_url field in the photo and attachment objects to
thumbnail_url because it's more clear.
API: Added getalbums and getphotos endpoints.
API: Changed profile_photo_id field in member_info to
profile_photo_url.
BUGFIX: We had disabled signature parsing in plain text messages where
we couldn't tell if the sig was part of the reply or the original
message. That change wasn't also added to html messages.
BUGFIX: Fixed a loophole that would sometimes allow emails from
numbered accounts through.
API: Added /chatmembers endpoint.
API: Fixed bug in /joinchat endpoint that caused it to return a
no_group_specified error.
API: Added updateprofile endpoint.
API: Added num_drafts field to member_info object.
API: Added updateprofilephoto and deleteprofilephoto endpoints.
CHANGE: No longer allowing the CSS height attribute because in some
instances we were ending up with archives that had overlapping text
at the bottom.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Re: Please remind me?

 

Thank you Frances
I have joined a few groups with my g mail e mail as you suggested
I appreciate that
sugar

"If we could look into each other's hearts and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care."
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Frances
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 12:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Please remind me?

Hi

The URL for the signup label that Shal mentioned is:
/register

Frances




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Re: Please remind me?

 

Hi

The URL for the signup label that Shal mentioned is:
/register

Frances




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Re: Wiki revision about joining a group or Groups.io #wiki #membership

 

Frances,

- if someone is brand new to Groups.io - the current instructions
work, but can they use the subscribe email if they have a specific
group in mind?
Yes. Groups.io will automatically create an account for the new email address. The user needn't visit the site if they just want to interact with the group by email, but the account is there without a password.

If the email that Groups.io first received from that address (a +subscribe or the reply to an Invite) has a Display Name in the From header field then that Display Name is copied into the new account's Profile, and from there into each group subscription's profile.

- if someone has joined Groups.io already and at this point, just
wishes to join a specific group.
That adds the new group's subscription to their existing account. If they were to visit their account's Identification page they'd find their profile in each group there.

But what happens if a friend says here's the email address to
subscribe to the widget group? Can the potential group member just
send a blank email to the widget group?
To the widget group's +subscribe address, yes.

Then they wouldn't have to follow the Logging In instructions?
Correct. Logging in to the site is optional.

Members who don't are sometimes referred to as "email only" members. But there's really no distinction other than that those members haven't (yet) wanted or needed to log in to Groups.io's web pages.

And if they receive an invitation from a group?
Same thing. The Invitation contains a link that would bring them to the site, but if they reply to the Invitation by email instead then there's no involvement with the web site.

Shal


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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group

 

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 07:02 PM, Peter Martinez wrote:
I have now established that the misrouting does NOT occur if I sent a message to the +owner address from my btinternet.com account...
I have carried out further tests and can report that if I use Outlook 2003 or 2013 the message misroutes by chopping off the "+owner" part of the address and displaying the email for all to see as a "posted message". (Note; on the test group in question I am not moderated)

However, if I use the BT Mail web UI (not, in my case, provided by Yahoo) then +owner messages route correctly.

Not sure if that helps all that much though...

Chris
Re: Please remind me?

 

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Thank you

I am joining with my g mail as my back up

I still wish to create a new account the other way

I can¡¯t find that link

sugar

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"If we could look into each other's hearts and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care."

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https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Shal Farley
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 12:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Please remind me?

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Sugar,


I just went through the site and for the life of me, I need to find the link on how to create another account.


You're looking for the Sign Up link, in the upper right. But you will only see it if you are logged out of your existing account.

A new account you create this way will be independent of your existing account(s) - Groups.io will treat it as if it is owned by a different person. Which means that you will need to log out and back in again to switch between them, or have them open in different browsers/devices.


Is that possible with out having t delete my current one?


Certainly. I have more than one account, so that I can use the extra one as a backup owner of my groups.

Or you can do it by email, as Frances suggested.

Operating with two email addresses subscribed to a group means that you have two accounts. Each email address is its own account with its own login (if you log in using that address). Web or email, the result is the same.

Shal


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Re: [email protected]

 

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 01:48 PM, Don Grass wrote:
Where does the email link group [email protected] on our group¡¯s homepage go too?
It's an auto-responder address, so it isn't sent on to anyone.

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Re: Please remind me?

 

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Sugar,

I just went through the site and for the life of me, I need to find the link on how to create another account.

You're looking for the Sign Up link, in the upper right. But you will only see it if you are logged out of your existing account.

A new account you create this way will be independent of your existing account(s) - Groups.io will treat it as if it is owned by a different person. Which means that you will need to log out and back in again to switch between them, or have them open in different browsers/devices.

Is that possible with out having t delete my current one?

Certainly. I have more than one account, so that I can use the extra one as a backup owner of my groups.

Or you can do it by email, as Frances suggested.

Operating with two email addresses subscribed to a group means that you have two accounts. Each email address is its own account with its own login (if you log in using that address). Web or email, the result is the same.

Shal


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[email protected]

 

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Where does the email link group [email protected] on our group¡¯s homepage go too? Does it go to the owner of the group like group [email protected] does?

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Re: Please remind me?

 

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Oh yes, thanks

What If I wanted a totally new account, would it be the same thing?

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"If we could look into each other's hearts and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care."

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Sugar

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Frances
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Please remind me?

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Hi Sugar,

If you wanted a second account with your group, you could send a blank email to [GROUPNAME][email protected]
You might want to make one of them No Mail or Special Notices only so you don't get duplicates.
Or you could send yourself an invitation.

Hope this helps.

Frances

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Re: Out of Order Emails #bug

 

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 11:26 AM, Nick Schweitzer wrote:
I do have a custom domain with GoDaddy, but I am using straight email forwarding to Gmail.
I also have a domain on GoDaddy.? I've got an email account set up that uses secureserver.net.? It's not unusual to see messages come in that are up to 3 days old, but I don't use it for anything serious.

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Wiki revision about joining a group or Groups.io #wiki #membership

 

Hi

I am hoping that someone can clarify this for me. It arises from Sugar's question. I *think* my reply works - send a blank email to the subscription address or send herself an invitation.

But I looked at the wiki to see what it said and that got me wondering whether we should break out the different cases:
- if someone is brand new to Groups.io - the current instructions work, but can they use the subscribe email if they have a specific group in mind?

- if someone has joined Groups.io already and at this point, just wishes to join a specific group.

The wiki page "Logging In" starts from the Groups.io homepage. This is useful for someone who is brand new to Groups.io
?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In
It doesn't go on to explain what to do next - how to join a group.

But what happens if a friend says here's the email address to subscribe to the widget group? Can the potential group member just send a blank email to the widget group? Then they wouldn't have to follow the Logging In instructions??
And if they receive an invitation from a group?

What if someone is a member already of Groups.io?
So any instructions on how to join a group would work for them.

I guess I am unsure how the different scenarios work. I *think* that someone who doesn't already have a Groups.io account can just use the blank email approach or click on an invitation link.

It would be useful to clarify this section!

And perhaps there needs to be a section on finding groups. The online list is only Publicly Listed Groups. Some are restricted groups - you need to apply for membership. Those that don't say anything are open to all - just click through to join.

Frances

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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group

Peter Martinez
 

I have now established that the misrouting does NOT occur if I sent a message to the +owner address from my btinternet.com account, but not by using the mail.btinternet.com server but by using the yahoo one. This is routed via yahoo rather that via btinternet and synchronoss, so it confirms the earlier experiments and points to the culprit being btinternet or synchronoss.

regards
Peter
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