Mike,

I was wondering if there is a way that a member would be able to add
an event by sending an email with all the details to the group and
have it automatically get added to the calendar.

There's this:


But it applies only to Premium groups.

Also, the phrase "a calendar invite" suggests to me that the invitation has to be generated as an ICS format attachment to a message (and possibly only works from at Outlook calendar).

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Helen,

When I open a pending message to edit and approve, the toolbar lacks
the attachment and photo icons ...

That's true of all groups, there's no control or setting for it.

I think the problem is that the toolbar is not consistent. Sometimes
it does have the attachment/photos icons and sometimes not. I haven't
figured out all the situations ...

Another case where it does not is when editing a message after it has posted.

It is in my opinion an annoying limitation in both circumstances.

Here's an old request of mine, you could reply in agreement, or start your own topic:


Here's a somewhat newer topic that included both attachments and insert photos in the request:


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Helen, I just tested it with my test group.

I put a topic to moderate so I would have to deal with it.
The email came, and of course to edit, I have to click on View this message online.
The toolbar was there. But a different toolbar - with clean links but no option for attachment or photos.

I am using Safari 12.11 on my MacBook.?

A solution for a moderator would be to approve the message if it is complete enough and then reply yourself with the attachment. Or reject it and add a message about the required attachment. (A message section comes up.)

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Thanks Chris - not a silly question at all. I don't think it was either of those things but you did help me localise the main issue I am having.

I think the problem is that the toolbar is not consistent. Sometimes it does have the attachment/photos icons and sometimes not. I haven't figured out all the situations but here's the one that is bugging me right now.

I run a group for a lot of non-computer-savvy people, so I often have to do a bit of moderation for their messages, including editing text and adding attachments.
When I open a pending message to edit and approve, the toolbar lacks the attachment and photo icons - and this is where I most miss them, as I can't just send a new message by email because that would have my name as sender instead of theirs.

Is there a specific setting for adding attachments in that situation?
Or maybe there is some technical reason that this toolbar can't allow attachments?
If the latter, is there any workaround people can recommend - beyond asking the member to resend their message with the attachment, which is what I currently have to do.

Thanks again - really appreciate your assistance.
Helen

Karen,

I received porn in one of my groups and the person is not a member.
How does that happen?

To figure that out we'll need more information.

The first question is whether the pornographic message posted to your group's Messages section on the web, or if it only arrived by email.

If it did not post into your group's web pages that explains how it could be from a non-member. If it did post into your group's web pages then some details may be available from the group's Activity log.

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Michael,

Dave,

? ? ? ? ? There are scads of "inarticulate wombats" as you term them.? The very idea of judiciously trimming has gone the way of the dinosaur in many venues.

? ? ? ? ? ?I am not complaining about the search function, but what gets returned when you have massive numbers of "inarticulate wombats" who hit reply, then top post, never bothering to trim a single thing.

? ? ? ? ? ?If you want to complain about signatures, which have been a common feature since Usenet days, then have fun.? They're not going away, and I have no intention of removing mine.

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 11:54 AM, Michael Dansereau wrote:

I was wondering if there is a way that a member would be able to add an event by sending an email

There is for Premium (paid) groups, /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Adding-Calendar-Events-by-Email

I'm not aware of any way to make use of a spreadsheet to enter events.

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Right.? Thanks, Chris.? I must admit that the photos carry the oddest of names as most of them, I suspect, were originally attachments to emails so they carry the name the photographer's camera gave them.? I think in Yahoo they were in the order they were uploaded.

I only have about 140, so I suppose renaming them all with a prefix number is not beyond possible.? Quite a chore though.

And on your second point, I was aware of the viewer choice but there is nothing I can do about that.? I just wanted a reasonable default order.? They seem to have turned up in the order I put them there, so if only I had ordered them first.? I suppose it didn't take me all that long to put them up there.? There did seem to be a bit of an issue if I put too many at the same time.? I'm not sure just what I mean by too many but one worked flawlessly every time, but with lots together I could see the upload go, sometimes sticking before 100%, but after that was finished I waited for what seemed too long with my machine saying waiting for groups.io.? Escape followed by uploading again seemed to work.

Anyway, thanks for your help, Chris.

Peter

In a word - yes.

Photos will automatically sort themselves alphanumerically, irrespective of when they were uploaded, and alphanumerically includes whatever identity the mechanism used to take the photo in the first place chose to allocate to it.

So if someone uploads a photo called "Avocado" and someone uploads another picture of an avocado but with the name 123456.jpg and then someone uploads a picture of an apple called "My lunch" then in the album they will appear in the order 123456.jpg / Avocado / My Lunch.

If you want them in a different order (neglecting the fact that there are now two photos of an avocado, which is probably unnecessary) the photo names need to be edited with an "order number" in fromnt of them, e.g.

01: My Lunch, 02: Avocado, 03: 123456.jpg.

Note the leading "0". If this is omitted things go haywire when the number of photos >9. If the number of photos in an album is going to exceed 99 then the individual numbers need to start 001, 002... up to 999, i.e. with 2 leading zeros.

If your members have permission to upload photos then with the best will in the world the outcome will almost certainly be well - intentioned anarchy. IME members go no further than uploading the photos and don't carry out the necessary editing to have a sensible naming scheme or force a sensible photo order. As in the example above duplication is another common feature IME.

It boils down to the group owner / moderators having to try to sort things out by (a) making sure that individual photos have sensible names (Titles) (b) forcing a sensible order using numerical prefixes and (c) ruthlessly deleting duplicates or near duplicates.

Hope that helps a bit; be warned that it can involve quote a lot of work, but it can be done in easy stages. Just remember that the longest march starts with a single step. :)

Chris

Thanks, Don.? Yes, I suspected that Move meant move to another album.? Maybe that is a way to get the order right but renaming with a prefix number might be easier.

Peter

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Peter,

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My experience with organizing photo albums or photos inside albums, is they need to be organized Alphabetically or Numerically, or maybe a combination of both. The one function I miss from Y Groups was the Re-order function in Photo Albums, but maybe one day we will get that function in Groups.io.

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As far as the Move function goes, there needs to be more than one photo album, so there is another album to move the photo too

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Don

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Hi, new admin to groups.io.? I was wondering if there is a way that a member would be able to add an event by sending an email with all the details to the group and have it automatically get added to the calendar.? We have a director of events, but many members plan events.? Was hoping to save a lot of re typing and possible typos.

Also wondering if there is a way to add to the calendar via an excel upload.? We get a list of all New England car shows in excel and I will have to add hundreds of events all at one time.?

Thanks in advance.

Mike

On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 02:25 PM, P H LLOYD wrote:

I'm wondering if it is possible to alter the order in which photos appear in an album.

Oops! A major omission from my earlier reply. (Sorry!)

The sort order is viewer - selectable, which can confuse things.

When any album is selected there is an innocuous looking tab in grey (UK spelling!) at the right hand side above the album title banner.



I won't list the options here because you can find them for yourself easily enough. The main point is that what I described in my earlier reply only works if the selection is Sort by Name ^.?

Note that the sort order is determined by individual members viewing the album; owners and moderators cannot enforce any particular sort order. Some groups want sorting by upload date; "my" group didn't, and I suspect you don't either!

Chris

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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 02:25 PM, P H LLOYD wrote:

I'm wondering if it is possible to alter the order in which photos appear in an album.

In a word - yes.

Photos will automatically sort themselves alphanumerically, irrespective of when they were uploaded, and alphanumerically includes whatever identity the mechanism used to take the photo in the first place chose to allocate to it.

So if someone uploads a photo called "Avocado" and someone uploads another picture of an avocado but with the name 123456.jpg and then someone uploads a picture of an apple called "My lunch" then in the album they will appear in the order 123456.jpg / Avocado / My Lunch.

If you want them in a different order (neglecting the fact that there are now two photos of an avocado, which is probably unnecessary) the photo names need to be edited with an "order number" in fromnt of them, e.g.

01: My Lunch, 02: Avocado, 03: 123456.jpg.

Note the leading "0". If this is omitted things go haywire when the number of photos >9. If the number of photos in an album is going to exceed 99 then the individual numbers need to start 001, 002... up to 999, i.e. with 2 leading zeros.

If your members have permission to upload photos then with the best will in the world the outcome will almost certainly be well - intentioned anarchy. IME members go no further than uploading the photos and don't carry out the necessary editing to have a sensible naming scheme or force a sensible photo order. As in the example above duplication is another common feature IME.

It boils down to the group owner / moderators having to try to sort things out by (a) making sure that individual photos have sensible names (Titles) (b) forcing a sensible order using numerical prefixes and (c) ruthlessly deleting duplicates or near duplicates.

Hope that helps a bit; be warned that it can involve quote a lot of work, but it can be done in easy stages. Just remember that the longest march starts with a single step. :)

Chris

I'm wondering if it is possible to alter the order in which photos appear in an album.? I have uploaded a lot of photos from our old Yahoo group, but failed to get them in chronological order and any info there might have been in the yahoo group seems to have gone.? I'd like to be able to move a few around so that the oldest are no longer at the top.? The sort options don't do the trick as there is no record of when the original pictures were taken.

I've tried opening the photo and clicking on Edit and there is an option to move it.? When I click on that a window opens with a box with nothing in it and nothing to put in it.? I tried just pressing Move and the picture has vanished.? (No problem there; I can always upload it again but it will appear at the top again.)

Can you help, please?

Thanks,
Peter

On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 02:02 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

is the difficulty in searching the archives for original source material, which gets quoted again and

Brian I find that difficult to swallow, and excessive in the extreme.
Either you belong to very bad groups, or inarticulate wombats who cant trim- but and my compatriots find the search function VERY efficient. It is also very effective at 'summarising' search results- that is it gives one summary result of a thread where there may be 5,10, 20 responses.

Your canned sig gets repeated too- think about what you also 'offer' that isn't valid information.
cheers davew

On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 02:46 AM, Helen Fraser wrote:

In my group settings, I have attachments set to 'moderate'. I have also tried with 'allow', but that seemed to make no difference.

This might sound like a silly question but when you set either "moderate" or "allow" did you Save that setting using the relevant button at the bottom of the Settings page?

The Group I moderate does not allow attachments and as a result the Attach tab is not present in the "compose" toolbar. In other groups of which I am a member where attachments are allowed then the attach tab is present.

I was just about to press send on this when another thought sprung to mind; how long - established is your group? If it has been around for a while then it is possible that your available storage has been filled up, and that "the system" is blocking any further attempts at uploading anything. I suggest that it definitely worth checking how much storage you have used. However, IIRC there is a quirk in Groups.io to the effect that a look at "emailed photos" (which is where attachments get stored) will show photos but won't show attached documents.

I'll keep any further ideas about this until you have had the chance to check the above points.

Chris

Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

CHANGE: Moved the Indivisible link in the pricing page to be in the
non-profits section. Also updated the instructions for enterprise
non-profits.

It is just a tiny bit of decorum, but I appreciate it. Don't know if it would have headed off the headache Prasad encountered, since it is a change of emphasis not one of fact.
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Comments about these are welcome:

BUGFIX: The activity log line when editing a message was 'via email'
when it can only be 'via web'.
BUGFIX: The 'Vote Now' link in poll announcement emails would fail for
members of announcement groups.
CHANGE: If a group had separate footers checked, we were not resizing
any attached images according to group settings. I don't remember
why I coded it that way, but I've changed it so that we do resize
images.
NEW: Remove 'ADV:' from subject lines.
NEW: Added a 'Types Of Groups That Aren't Permitted' section to the
help.
CHANGE: In the help section, changed the sidebar so it didn't stay
fixed, which was causing issues for some people.
BUGFIX: Fixed a couple of cases where we didn't handle collapsing
quoted message replies when viewing the archives.
CHANGE: When viewing messages, we no longer collapse signatures within
a quoted block.
BUGFIX: Fixed a goroutine leak in the anti-virus checker.

Please call out any you find significant.

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Thanks. Yes, by web I mean PC-based browser. In my case it is a Mac using Firefox and Safari. It works fine here in this forum for example.