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Is there any way to delete photos in a message from attachments without it being sent to the person who wrote the letter?

I know I can go one by one in the photos email folder. That takes forever.

If I go to attachments I can edit it and delete a? bunch of them but then the person gets notified.

Thanks

Anita?


Re: Links

 

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 12:00 PM, Ellen McDonald wrote:
Is there a way to remove the group links at the bottom of an email?
Short answer: No.?

Longer answer: At a minimum, each message sent via a mailing list must provide some means to unsubscribe from the list.

Really long answer:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers?

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Re: Groups.io sustainability

 

Although I can't seem to find it at the moment, Mark addressed this on the beta group some time ago.? He does have backup in place to keep the site running.? I doubt that there would be much, if any, additional development, at least for awhile.? And support would likely suffer in the short term.? The only one that actually knows the answers though is Mark.

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Re: Spamfilter

 

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You only have to do it once per person. I think it¡¯s a small price to pay for safety.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of peter holm
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 2:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Spamfilter

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Just seems waste of time to having to pre-approve all new sender's emails.

Br Peter


Re: Spamfilter

Jim Higgins
 

Received from peter holm at 2/16/2019 10:12 AM UTC:

Just seems waste of time to having to pre-approve all new sender's emails.

Br Peter

Perhaps you're only considering yourself while ignoring the reasons given to you for the need to screen out spammers.

Jim H


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Good Morning,
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Is there a way to remove the group links at the bottom of an email?
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Re: Changes to Google Groups

 

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 09:21 AM, Marcia Hudspeth wrote:
Is groups.io a part of Google Groups, in which there will be changes?
Groups.io is not a Google product and is in no way affiliated with Google Groups.

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Changes to Google Groups

Marcia Hudspeth
 

Is groups.io a part of Google Groups, in which there will be changes?

Marcia


Re: Site updates - Allow Parent Subscribers to Post

 

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 07:15 AM, Andy W wrote:
If the 'Allow Non Subscribers to Post' option is required and messages are moderated, then 'Allow Parent Subscribers to Post' on its own seems to serve no purpose as it stands.
At best, these two checkboxes are labelled incorrectly. It was my understanding that the first checkbox already "allows" messages, the second is (supposed to) affect only moderation.?

Anyway, I tried the same thing as Andy did in my group(s), with a hashtag set up so my test messages didn't get emailed. With a Subscriber account of the parent group only, and these checkboxes checked in the subgroup, I was able to successfully post to the subgroup...both by email and online.

However, now the Privacy setting seems to be broken. Previously, I permitted main-group members to read the subgroup message archive. Now, if I try to do that with the same Subscriber account mentioned previously (same one I posted with), I get an error message along these lines:

template: messagelib.html:344:27: executing "DisplayMessageFooter" at <.Sub.FullName>: can't evaluate field FullName in type interface {}
Something weird is definitely?going on with this new feature.

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Re: Spamfilter

 

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 12:15 PM, peter holm wrote:
Just seems waste of time to having to pre-approve all new sender's emails.
Pre- approve? Not sure what the "pre" refers to; posts are either approved or they are not. Pre - approval is not a thing AFAIK.

In any case if any individual is not prepared to put in the work required to either own or moderate a group then perhaps owning or moderating a group is simply not for them. Expecting Groups.io to permit spam protection to be bypassed to save owners and moderators a little bit of work is simply not reasonable IMHO.

The group I moderate has most members on moderation, and we cope without feeling over - burdened in any way. The members seem to cope with occasional moderation delays without complaining. You could always set new members to "Un - moderate after..." or is moderating up to 4 posts from new members still too much bother?

Chris


Groups.io sustainability

 

Hi,

I've been using groups.io since the start of the year, evaluating it for a potential move of 1000+ members of my club from various Y! groups and another Forum to here.? I think all of the site updates and messages from support I have received have come from Mark Fletcher.? It seems he does an excellent job in maintaining the site but I'm wondering if he is a single point of failure? What happens if the proverbial bus comes along and Mark is suddenly not available?? Is there a team behind Mark that is capable of continuing development and support or will groups.io cease to be supported?

Thanks,
Andy


Site updates - Allow Parent Subscribers to Post

 

Hi,

I've seen the chatter about allowing members of parent groups to post to subgroups but I'm not sure if this is working as it was maybe intended.

I have these settings for my subgroup:



If I post (via email) from a member of the parent group that is not a member of this subgroup then the message is moderated as it was before when only 'Allow Non Subscribers to Post' was set.

If I uncheck the 'Allow Non Subscribers to Post' option and post again, the message is rejected with:

groups.io gave this error:
Your email address, andy_wedge@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit ?

If the 'Allow Non Subscribers to Post' option is required and messages are moderated, then 'Allow Parent Subscribers to Post' on its own seems to serve no purpose as it stands.

Regards,
Andy


Re: Spamfilter

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Br Peter

On 2/15/2019 4:42 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

Peter,

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It should be the owner's choice if spamfilter is enabled or not, and not developers!!!

Mark, please reconsider this.

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Notwithstanding your post in beta, I very much doubt he will reconsider such a broad issue. Review my answers in this topic for my reasons for saying that:
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For your request to get any traction I think you'll need to present Mark with a reason that none of the existing choices are sufficient for your needs. So far as I've seen you haven't presented a compelling use case for bypassing the existing Spam Control options. I don't think "It should be the owner's choice" is sufficient, you'll get further if you can outline why you need that choice.
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Re: Spamfilter

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On 2/15/2019 09:59, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
Peter,
I think there are over 500,000 subscribers who depend upon groups.io to provide continuous and consistent service.
Allowing individual groups' owners to endanger the ability of groups.io to remain a non blacklisted email provider to those people is far more important that the minor effort required by owners to properly educate their subscribers about this issue.
It is simply a case where the good of all far outweighs individual desires.

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Bob is right. This syndrome has a name, the Tragedy of the Commons, where individual needs combined in isolation produce negative results for the group as a whole.

Best,

Glenn
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Re: Spamfilter

 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:40 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
I think there are over 500,000 subscribers who depend upon groups.io to provide continuous and consistent service.
It's nearer 4,000,000 based on my most recent member's ID (3745311)!? And those members belong to over 11,000 groups.

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Re: Messages Going Missing

Allison Schaefer
 

Hi Bruce,?

Thank you, this is helpful.? I am sorry I can't be more specific with the problem but I have a feeling it's a user issue so now I have some things to check and follow up with.??

Allison?

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 1:30 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 03:06 PM, Allison Schaefer wrote:
I'm new to Groups.io and I manage two groups.? We have had issues with a) people sending emails and these messages not showing up under "messages" in the group and b) group members not getting emailed when new messages are sent.? This happens in both of the groups I manage (some people are members of both).??

What would be the most common reason for this happening?? Group or user error??
These are very broad questions with no simple answer.

The most common source of the first problem is user error, meaning incorrect message addressing. The proper address at which to post messages can be found among the Group Email Addresses on the home page of each group/subgroup (look under "Post").

Note also there was some system downtime over the weekend. A handful of users may have attempted to post during that downtime. I believe was bouncing messages then, but a few may have landed in the bit-bucket.
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The most common cause of the second problem is some sort of intervention or downtime by the subscriber's email provider. Go to Admin>Members and select Bouncing from the blue pull-down menu. Much information on bounce handling can be found at /static/help#bouncing?

Now open a subscriber's user record (click on it). At the top of the resulting page is a button labeled "Email Delivery History." A click on that button should give you some idea of whether there have been any other kinds of message delivery problems.

Note that even if delivered, group messages may subsequently be diverted to the subscriber's spam or junk email folders. The only way to determine if that has happened is to have the subscriber open those folders on his end and look.

Having said all that, these are only the most common sources, and may not apply to your situation. Any information you can provide to narrow the scope will help us to provide a better response.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Spamfilter

 

Peter,
I think there are over 500,000 subscribers who depend upon groups.io to provide continuous and consistent service.
Allowing individual groups' owners to endanger the ability of groups.io to remain a non blacklisted email provider to those people is far more important that the minor effort required by owners to properly educate their subscribers about this issue.
It is simply a case where the good of all far outweighs individual desires.

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Re: Spamfilter

 

Peter,

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It should be the owner's choice if spamfilter is enabled or not, and not developers!!!

Mark, please reconsider this.

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Notwithstanding your post in beta, I very much doubt he will reconsider such a broad issue. Review my answers in this topic for my reasons for saying that:
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For your request to get any traction I think you'll need to present Mark with a reason that none of the existing choices are sufficient for your needs. So far as I've seen you haven't presented a compelling use case for bypassing the existing Spam Control options. I don't think "It should be the owner's choice" is sufficient, you'll get further if you can outline why you need that choice.
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Re: RSVP

 

For future reference, I've created a new wiki page:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-RSVPs-work.

Most of the content has been plagiarized from Andy's post on this subject. It remains a little crude, so feel free to fine-tune it.

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Re: RSVP

 

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 08:48 PM, Jane Taylor wrote:
do they have to log in to Groups.io or can they do it without logging in? Critical because some of our older members are too confused to create accounts
Bruce gave you the answer this morning, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/14933

A person's email address is their account, so they don't need to create anything.? They can even log in without creating a password, /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In

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