Re: subgroup used for an event, registered people, now that event concluded I want to share messages with parent group and delete the subgroup
#subgroup
On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 11:32 AM, stephanie j wright wrote:
both options say messages viewable only by sub-group
That's because you made the subgroup messages private when you created them.? Once made private to the subgroup, you can no longer make them visible to parent group members.? This is a sticky point for some.? Once a message archive is made private, it can't be made public later.? There should be a popup reminding you of this when you choose any private setting. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
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Re: subgroup used for an event, registered people, now that event concluded I want to share messages with parent group and delete the subgroup
#subgroup
On 05 June 2023
17:01:14 (+01:00), stephanie j wright wrote: "change Visibility to "Group listed in parent group, messages
viewable by parent group members".
That is what I planned to do
- but it isn't one of the option in the sub-group privacy settings.
The
only choices I get are: listed/not-listed in parent group, but both options
say messages viewable only by sub-group.
As
with public/private visibility, once you set the archive visibility you can
only further restrict it, you cannot extend its visibility.
Malcolm.
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Re: subgroup used for an event, registered people, now that event concluded I want to share messages with parent group and delete the subgroup
#subgroup
"change Visibility to "Group listed in parent group, messages viewable by parent group members".
That is what I planned to do - but it isn't one of the option in the sub-group privacy settings.
The only choices I get are: listed/not-listed in parent group, but both options say messages viewable only by sub-group.
I have read the manuals, and searched archives - but was sure that either I didn't understand, or was doing something wrong, particularly since the option you suggest, which I also gleaned from my reading, don't seem to be available.
Thanks for the help.
Since it is a small number of messages, I will manually copy them out into a document and create a single message that I can post to the parent group. Then I will just delete the sub-group altogether.
Looks like sub-groups won't be useful - as I had hoped - for temporary, private, attendee communication and resources for one-time events.
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Re: subgroup used for an event, registered people, now that event concluded I want to share messages with parent group and delete the subgroup
#subgroup
On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 06:37 AM, stephanie j wright wrote:
In a day or two, I will removed everyone from the sub-group, except the subgroup owner and retire the group. BUT would like to share the archive with the larger parent group - but I don't see any way to do that.
In the subgroup, on the Settings page, in the Privacy panel, change Visibility to "Group listed in parent group, messages viewable by parent group members".? If you don't want further messages posted, go to the Spam Control panel and change it to Announcement-Only Group.? After saving those settings, you could post a message in the main group that includes a link to any of the topics/messages in the subgroup for folks to use to get there.
Even better, I'd to like move the whole message archive (it's only about 20 messages and a few photos) into the parent group and delete the subgroup altogether.
There's no current way to move things between the main and subgroups.? It has been though. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
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Thanks folks - before I saw? your comments, I headed out of town for the morel mushroom foray I was helping coordinate - and where I was using the mobile App.
I was using the mobile App, not the web page in a browser.
[However, my experiments Safari, once logged in to groups.io, it pops me straight into the mobile App when I select a group that I belong to.]
The suggestion to turn my phone for landscape mode does help with better layout and general visibility - but the text is still too small. [I have chosen 12 pt for this message - that works for me, the 11pt is a strain.]
On a positive note - I can use the microphone to dictate a new message in the mobile App, which my hands appreciate. but it's not good for admin tasks liking adding someone since dictation of an email address isn't very pretty.
Just as note - I use an iPhone SE (3rd generation) and I think it is too large - I have arthritis and small hands, and find that it is painful to hold for very long. I wish it was smaller in width and height (I liked my iPhone 4 just fine, thought it was the perfect size) - but I know that most people like larger phones. I wouldn't be able to hold anything larger. Maybe the text does display larger on a mobile device with a larger screen (I need to do some research - not that I will ever have a larger device for my personal use, but out of curiosity).
I do hope that the accessibility improves.
I am in the "senior" category - along with a lot of other baby-boomers, many of whom have embraced their phones.
I do a bit of tech support for folks who haven't had a smart phone before, but got pushed into getting a phone by their grandchildren. Unfortunately a lot of Apps, including ones more likely to be used by seniors, aren't doing QA focus-groups with the Medicare crowd.
I think I need to figure out how to get paid to give advice to developers on that growing market segment.
Thanks again.
I just put up a page of Photos of our
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subgroup used for an event, registered people, now that event concluded I want to share messages with parent group and delete the subgroup
#subgroup
I created a subgroup for people registered for an event, where updates could be shared using the mobile App (including locations and other info that wouldn't be shared with the larger, non-registered parent group members), and things were changing in real-time.
People have now also added some post-event comments and photos.?
At this point the event is concluded.
In a day or two, I will removed everyone from the sub-group, except the subgroup owner and retire the group. BUT would like to share the archive with the larger parent group - but I don't see any way to do that.
Even better, I'd to like move the whole message archive (it's only about 20 messages and a few photos) into the parent group and delete the subgroup altogether. It's not going to be used again unless I can rename/recycle it for future events after moving the messages into the parent group.
This is something I will want to do often, possibly once or twice a month - have an event-specific sub-group that only includes registered attendees, but share photos and comments afterwards with the folks who weren't able to attend (or in most cases there were constraints on how many people could attend). The 30 people who were on the wait list are interested as are people who had conflicts for the date.
How do I do this? Thanks.
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Re: Trouble deleting files
Well, I find I can delete the files using the android app, but it's not easy to navigate to the files. I had to follow an upload message link to get there.
At least I know how to get rid of the old file next month if the update function still isn't working.
Thanks for the feedback!
Frances (Green, not the Frances I often see posting here)
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Re: Trouble deleting files
Frances . . . On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 19:02:47 -0400, "Frances" <woodjjj@...> wrote:
I have to upload the new file with a different name, no problem there.
I doubt this would be of any help, but how about renaming the old file first, then upload your new replacement for the old one? If there's any value of tracking changes from before, you'd have a handy reference there. Donald ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Re: Trouble deleting files
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 06:18 PM, Frances wrote:
I have file that I used to update monthly, but the last couple of months it
won't do so, nor will it delete.
I just did a test and had no problem updating or deleting a file as owner.? I didn't try it as moderator. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
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This is a recent problem since April (I hoped it was a glitch that would
adjust)
I have file that I used to update monthly, but the last couple of months it
won't do so, nor will it delete. It gives a confirmation message but it
doesn't do the delete.
I have to upload the new file with a different name, no problem there.
I can delete an unwanted message with no difficulty. In the messages area it
has a dropdown options menu but that doesn't appear in the files section,
just the icons which I've always used before.
Any suggestions?
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
On 2023-06-03 13:12, Nivard Ovington
via groups.io wrote:
I
already have a second account which I have set for digest so I
can see what that looks like and a few other tests, but will
subscribe it as a second owner on all groups I have
You should do that anyway (always have a second owner account)
just in case something goes wrong with the first account/address, so
there's a backup way to get to the group admin area.? Some folks
have found this out the hard way!
Cheers,
Christos
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
The action being logged (and reported) was not by either/any owner/moderator. The action was by the (new) member in accepting the invitation, so all owners/moderators would be notified. At least that how I see the logic going. Malcolm. On 03 June 2023 21:07:17 (+01:00), Jonathan Sivier wrote: I don't know if this means much, but earlier today I sent an invitation to one of my lists to someone. They just accepted the invitation and I got a notification to both of my addresses I have set to Owner on the list. One was the one I was logged in with when I sent the invitation and the other is a separate address I have as a backup. Jonathan
On 6/3/2023 11:24 AM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
On 03 June 2023 16:25:08 (+01:00), Andy Wedge wrote:
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 04:14 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Personally I would rather receive the notification but its not going to happen so will work around it I guess you could have a second account as Mod, set to No Email
for general messages but still receiving notifications for actions you completed on your other account. Far better though would be for owners & moderators to have an option
as to whether or not they receive notices of their own actions. I would turn it on. Malcolm.
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
I don't know if this means much, but earlier today I sent an invitation to one of my lists to someone. They just accepted the invitation and I got a notification to both of my addresses I have set to Owner on the list. One was the one I was logged in with when I sent the invitation and the other is a separate address I have as a backup.
Jonathan
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On 6/3/2023 11:24 AM, Malcolm Austen wrote: On 03 June 2023 16:25:08 (+01:00), Andy Wedge wrote:
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 04:14 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Personally I would rather receive the notification but its not going to happen so will work around it
I guess you could have a second account as Mod, set to No Email for general messages but still receiving notifications for actions you completed on your other account.
Far better though would be for owners & moderators to have an option as to whether or not they receive notices of their own actions. I would turn it on.
Malcolm.
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 12:42 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
Far better though would be for owners & moderators to have an option as to whether or not they receive notices of their own actions.
This suggestion has already been made:??? Regards, Bruce
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
In Subscriptions, Under Moderator Notifications:
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Members? ? Email and web/app ? ? Email only ? ? Web/App only ? ? None ?
How to be notified when a member joins/leaves this group.
Seems to me it should do what it says -- and what I select as the option.
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On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 03:09:08 PM EDT, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@...> wrote:
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Yes I would prefer the option but suspect thats unlikely to happen
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
> Far better though would be for owners & moderators to have an option as
> to whether or not they receive notices of their own actions. I would
> turn it on.
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> Malcolm.
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
Yes I would prefer the option but suspect thats unlikely to happen
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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Far better though would be for owners & moderators to have an option as to whether or not they receive notices of their own actions. I would turn it on.
Malcolm.
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
Hi Andy
Quite so, as I said previously I already have a second account which I have set for digest so I can see what that looks like and a few other tests, but will subscribe it as a second owner on all groups I have so will then receive the aforementioned new subscriber messages
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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I guess you could have a second account as Mod, set to No Email for general messages but still receiving notifications for actions you completed on your other account.
Regards
Andy
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
On 03
June 2023 16:25:08 (+01:00), Andy Wedge wrote: On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 04:14 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Personally I would rather receive the notification but its not
going to happen so will work around it
I guess you could have a second account as Mod, set to No Email for general
messages but still receiving notifications for actions you completed on
your other account.
Far better though would be
for owners & moderators to have an option as to whether or not they
receive notices of their own actions. I would turn it
on.
Malcolm. --?
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Austen -- malcolm.austen@...
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 04:14 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Personally I would rather receive the notification but its not going to happen so will work around it
I guess you could have a second account as Mod, set to No Email for general messages but still receiving notifications for actions you completed on your other account. Regards Andy
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Re: New subscriber notifications not being received
Hi Bruce
I guess its more what I have become used to, but also I kept the new subscriber notifications in Thunderbird and deleted the needs approval notifications, its a quick easy way to see the new subscribers rather than go to groups.io
Personally I would rather receive the notification but its not going to happen so will work around it
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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With that concept in mind, removing the new subscriber notification for someone you just approved is a bugfix.
Regards,
Bruce
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