On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 02:28 PM, Mark Hermsmeier wrote:

problem of undelivered mail to Yahoo, AOL and Verizon email addresses

For all intents and purposes, they're the same company, so will likely handle messages the same.? Without a complete header of a bounced message, replies will be mostly guessing.? It should give some specific information that could help figure things out.

Duane
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In our group,?there is a problem of undelivered mail to Yahoo, AOL and Verizon email addresses.? This only occurs with one account with a mail.com address.? Her email posts are properly delivered to all the other email domains.? ?She happens to be our new president so this is a serious problem for us.? ?Looking at the bounced messages there is a 554 error: 'Message not accepted for policy reasons.'? This indicates the messages are being rejected by Yahoo.com, AOL.com and Verizon.com.? The posts of any of our other 350 members are not blocked by these three email domains.? Does Yahoo, AOL and Version have more stringent criteria for filtering out 'bot mail' than for example gmail?? Is there something about the mail.com address that could cause this?? Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this problem would be appreciated.

On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 10:44 AM, Jay Elvove wrote:

I hope this feature request will be given serious consideration.

You can raise it again in Beta -?
No one in management here in this peer-to-peer help group.

In Beta, I see a thread on more granular permissions. Perhaps the right topic to check out? Any suggestions, folks?

Frances
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Thanks for confirming that this capability does not currently exist. I tried to be clear that the question was regarding moderation of attachments for an individual, not for everyone. I'm aware that admins can moderate attachments and other items for the entire group. I hope this feature request will be given serious consideration.

Thanks again. .?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 01:32 PM, SafeTex wrote:

We're planning to set up an IO group and we would like to know if it is
possible to block the "show quoted text option" when members post.

It isn't, because quote often is necessary to know what the message is about. However, you can have a group-rule that top-posting/TOFU is not allowed. This used to be established netiquette

The digests include the full text of each message, omitting any quotes of previous messages

Not quite. The autotrim simply removes everything under the lowest line that doesn't start with ">". Quotes above that line are left intact.

I agree that it would be great to have the autotrim-feature for individual messages, but it seems I am in a tiny minority


groetjes/?is, Ronaldo

I think Frances was asking how many total messages are in the message archives
in each group?

There are a few approaches you could take to combining the groups and spinning
one into a wilderness group.

If you got everyone in one group to join the other, then changed the name of the
group you want to be associated with wilderness, you'd have your new group.
You could purge all the members of the wilderness group to get it started, and
if there aren't a lot of messages, you could delete all of them and have a fresh
group.

Or leave them as members, change the name of the group, and let those who don't
want to be part of the new group to leave the group.

If you were thinking of merging all the messages into one, you'd need to contact
Mark at groups.io to see if he could help you. You would probably not have them
all in time/date order when you're done but it might be possible. If you don't
mind losing the messages in the other group archive, or don't mind leaving them
there, then it's a simpler situation. If your intent was to have the same
members in both groups, that also is probably easy enough to do as long as
everyone joins the other group if they're not already members.

Just a few things to consider.

Donald



On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 11:01:48 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), "Gaige Beck"
<rgaige2@...> wrote:

So it would be about 15 messages in all a day.

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On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 11:51 AM, Jay Elvove wrote:

user-based moderation function

At present, any settings apply to all users equally.? There have been requests for individual user moderation settings (files, photos, etc.), but it's still under consideration.

Duane
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On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 12:51 PM, Jay Elvove wrote:

How easy and more broadly useful would it be to add an additional user-based moderation function that applies to attachments? That is, an individual user's postings would only be subject to moderation when they contain attachments, otherwise they would pass through as usual. We've had a few users whose accounts have been compromised and others who repost images (willfully or not), unnecessarily taking up server storage. In all cases, they have been committed contributors to the community, and this would simply be a tool to help moderators more gently deal with these types of situations. Of course, if this capability already exists and I've simply overlooked it, please steer me in the right direction.?

You can set attachments to be moderated.
In Admin, Settings, Message Formatting.
You can select allow, bounce, moderate or strip.

Frances
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How easy and more broadly useful would it be to add an additional user-based moderation function that applies to attachments? That is, an individual user's postings would only be subject to moderation when they contain attachments, otherwise they would pass through as usual. We've had a few users whose accounts have been compromised and others who repost images (willfully or not), unnecessarily taking up server storage. In all cases, they have been committed contributors to the community, and this would simply be a tool to help moderators more gently deal with these types of situations. Of course, if this capability already exists and I've simply overlooked it, please steer me in the right direction.?

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? ? ? We use?Incredimail and both groups get The same messages daily. About 10 - 15 messages a day but all the same. So it would be about 15 messages in all a day. Hope that makes sense. ? ?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 08:29 AM, Gaige Beck wrote:

I would like to know if I

Can combine both groups to the

First one listed and just add wilderness

To the original group.

You may be able to get Groups.io to do that, but it will cost a year of Premium, at minimum.

Duane
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On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 09:29 AM, Gaige Beck wrote:

Can combine both groups to the

First one listed and just add wilderness

To the original group.?

There isn't an easy way, I don't think. Perhaps there is a workaround.

Can you tell us how many messages, how established the groups are??
Are there a lot of messages in both?

You can certainly rename a group - carefully.?
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/renaming-groups?single=true

Frances

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On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 06:32 AM, SafeTex wrote:

possible to block the "show quoted text option" when members post.

In other groups that I'm subscribed to, I find that it causes previous posts to get copied again and again exponentially

The "Show quoted text" button will only show up if the person sending the message has included a quote.? There's no way to keep people from quoting excess text/images except for proper training of members.? I think a lot of this is the fact that many email programs are, by default, set to include everything received in a quote when replying, but don't display it while the reply is being typed.? Many people don't even realize it's happening unless they go online to see what they've sent.? Unfortunately, email etiquette isn't a common thing any more.

Duane
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Hello everyone

We're planning to set up an IO group and we would like to know if it is possible to block the "show quoted text option" when members post.

In other groups that I'm subscribed to, I find that it causes previous posts to get copied again and again exponentially, making them impossible to navigate,? and even images get copied, so there is also a maximum storage aspect to all this.

i've looked in the Group Owners manual but cannot find anything to disable this, except in the digest

The digests include the full text of each message, omitting any quotes of previous messages

but we want to limit this in the posts themselves.

Hope this makes sense and thanks in advance for any help

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Well, if our domain were to change trying to retrain our users would
become our problem...

I'm not worried because, no matter what happens to the islands,
someone will end up with ownership of the .io TLD. They
won't want to lose the revenue stream that comes from it.

Rubens writes:

On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 06:25 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Something that would make subgroups a *lot* more useful would be to
have more than one level of nesting.

This group is strictly user-to-user and no Groups.io management monitors it.? For any suggestions, they need to be posted on the where they may receive attention.

I doubt that such would be implemented, but if it was, it would likely only be for Enterprise groups.

Duane
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On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 06:20 PM, Frances wrote:

The article is from 2019 when there was some issues about post-Brexit (maybe).

See this newer article:

Thank you, Frances, and everyone else for their thoughts. I'm not particularly worried, actually.
I don't think I would have the stamina to move my large group again, after moving it from Listbot to Yahoogroups and then all the way to Groups.io. So I'll just accept whatever happens.

Marina

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 11:06 PM, Cyndi Law wrote:

mail.georgedell.com: 550 "JunkMail rejected - web01.groups.io
(mail01.groups.io) [66.175.222.12]:53336 is in an RBL on
rbl.websitewelcome.com, see Blocked - see

georgedell.com mail is hosted by hostgator.com. Either the person who pays for hosting to hostgator persuades hostgator to whitelist groups.io IP-addresses listed in SPF: 66.175.222.12, 66.175.222.108, 45.79.227.220, 45.79.224.9, 45.79.224.7, 192.53.124.123, 173.255.243.56, 192.53.124.254 (good luck), or you vote with your feet: stop using georgedell.com email addresses for groups.io or altogether. Groups.io is not the only email you are missing.

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AM| I'm not worried.


And I can't even imagine WHY anyone
should be worried about this...

In the worst case scenario our domain
can change, there is no need to worry
about this issue. It's not our problem.


[ ] Rubens



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