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Re: Email hijacked?

 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 06:28 PM, DIANNE V wrote:
There is the name ¡°Milo Kitty¡± under the profile icon in the banner, with Mylokitty@... listed as the email, neither of which are mine.
Did you by any chance click on a footer in a message that was forwarded to you or included in a reply?? I've seen that happen a couple of times over the years when I was playing.? I just log out, then back in with my own account.

Duane
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Re: Email hijacked?

Cindy in DE
 

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I mean I dont want to have it sign on and have a password or account yet.? so I dont understand how that could be happening for Dianne.


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-------- Original message --------
From: Frances <frances@...>
Date: 1/9/20 8:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [GMF] Email hijacked?

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 08:28 PM, Cindy in DE wrote:
I cannot login with that email, it has no password set.
Just use Email me a link to login.

Frances
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Re: Email hijacked?

 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 08:28 PM, Cindy in DE wrote:
I cannot login with that email, it has no password set.
Just use Email me a link to login.

Frances
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Re: Email hijacked?

Gerald Boutin
 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 08:28 PM, DIANNE V wrote:
I¡¯m the owner of two groups and a member of several others. When I try to access my groups, I get the warning that my email isn¡¯t associated with Groups io. There is the name ¡°Milo Kitty¡± under the profile icon in the banner, with Mylokitty@... listed as the email, neither of which are mine. I was able to post successfully this morning, now I¡¯m locked out! Help!
Perhaps someone else has signed in on your computer? (Or maybe you are using someone else's computer?)

In any case, logout Mylokitty and log back in with your own email address.

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Re: Email hijacked?

Cindy in DE
 

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That email is one of mine (a test account), I dont have a password for it to login on io.? I sent an invite to it from my group [email protected] but i have not accepted the invitation for that account.? I cannot login with that email, it has no password set.

I dont understand what is going on??

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-------- Original message --------
From: DIANNE V <dianne1831@...>
Date: 1/9/20 7:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [GMF] Email hijacked?

I¡¯m the owner of two groups and a member of several others.? When I try to access my groups, I get the warning that my email isn¡¯t associated with Groups io.? There is the name ¡°Milo Kitty¡± under the profile icon in the banner, with Mylokitty@... listed as the email, neither of which are mine.? I was able to post successfully this morning, now I¡¯m locked out!? Help!

Re: Limiting choices of delivery options for new members

 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 07:30 PM, Events events wrote:
We are migrating from Yahoo and only really using the listserv functions of ?and would like to limit the delivery option choices for our direct add members (from Yahoo) and future members to: Individual messages, Daily summary, and Special notices only. ?This would serve us well and hopefully we could simply transfer our Yahoo member¡¯s delivery option directly. ? ?I can¡¯t find anything about anyone trying this in the wiki. Any thoughts??
New Owner/moderator,
Paul
You can disable "no mail" but you can't disable others. However you can set a default subscription setting. Members can change it, but likely, many won't bother.

You can also send in your Welcome message just the email commands for the subscriptions you prefer for the group. If it is easy to do, that might nudge users in to the right direction.

I am surprised that you would delete both digests, though.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

Frances
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Limiting choices of delivery options for new members

 

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Hi Wise Users,
We are migrating from Yahoo and only really using the listserv functions of ?and would like to limit the delivery option choices for our direct add members (from Yahoo) and future members to: Individual messages, Daily summary, and Special notices only. ?This would serve us well and hopefully we could simply transfer our Yahoo member¡¯s delivery option directly. ? ?I can¡¯t find anything about anyone trying this in the wiki. Any thoughts??
New Owner/moderator,
Paul
Re: Replying to a deleted post

Gerald Boutin
 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 06:22 PM, Duane wrote:
On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:28 AM, David Grimm wrote:
Is there a way (and is it desirable) to put up a 'This post has been deleted. Are you sure you want to reply?' type flag before allowing a reply to a deleted post?
Well, a deleted post doesn't appear online, so there's no Reply button.? All replies that do come in would have to be done via email.

Duane
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I suppose it would be possible to start a reply and the original post was deleted (or edited) while you were typing online. Seems unlikely to happen very often.

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Not receiving email

Ellen Bourne
 

Good evening
a member sent an email twice and the email did not send.
Can you please let me know what thus happen so I can relay the information?

Thanks?
Email hijacked?

 

I¡¯m the owner of two groups and a member of several others. When I try to access my groups, I get the warning that my email isn¡¯t associated with Groups io. There is the name ¡°Milo Kitty¡± under the profile icon in the banner, with Mylokitty@... listed as the email, neither of which are mine. I was able to post successfully this morning, now I¡¯m locked out! Help!
Re: #email #email

 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 12:21 PM, Ann Wild wrote:
I sent a message via my private email in reply to to a pending member and cc'd the owner address.? In that cc, the From line was, as I explained, my email name = xxx . com @ groups.io.
Where you're seeing that is in the email you cc'd to groupname+owner which goes through GIO.? It's only used when necessary, so it won't show up for everyone, and shouldn't for the person that received it.

Duane
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Re: Replying to a deleted post

 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:28 AM, David Grimm wrote:
Is there a way (and is it desirable) to put up a 'This post has been deleted. Are you sure you want to reply?' type flag before allowing a reply to a deleted post?
Well, a deleted post doesn't appear online, so there's no Reply button.? All replies that do come in would have to be done via email.

Duane
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Re: #email #email

 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 08:50 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:


I understand the rationale for
the?name@...>name=example.com@..., to satisfy the DMARC
tests.
What mystifies me is how Yahoo somehow never had to do this.
I suppose they solved this by replacing the sender (user@...) by "nameofthegroup@..."
Can anyone confirm that my conjecture is correct or am I totally wrong?

and yes, it IS a nuisance that you don't see WHOSE message you are reading before you get to the bottom of the post/message


groetjes/?is, Ronaldo
Re: #email #email

 

Thomas, I'm really not sure what her process is. The purpose of my post was to indicate that Reply in an MUA doesn't always create a mail directed to the individual indicated in From:. If Reply-To: is present, it takes precedence.

Is it possible that clicking "Reply to Sender" in a Groups.io mail item inserts an invisible Reply-to: in the outgoing message? This is my guess.

Larry
Re: #email #email

 

It's not clear to me what her process is.

On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 04:34:11 PM EST, Thomas Gruber <computerhusky@...> wrote:


hi Larry,
agreed. But Ann¡¯s problem seems to be that her ?from¡° address gets modified. That should be completely under her own control when using the local email client, and sending directly to someone else (not via ). Including her ?reply to¡° address - it¡¯s something that would be set on the local machine. Or am I overlooking something here?
Thomas


Am 09.01.2020 um 21:36 schrieb Laurence Marks <marks@...>:

Thomas wrote:
Hi Ann,
what email client are you using, and on what type of machine (Mac/Windows/Linux/¡­)? It sounds very hard to believe that your email client should modify your ?from¡° address when sending directly, unless you have set it like that yourself in the email client settings, or are sending to ??and not to the person¡¯s personal email address.

Kind regards
Thomas
Thomas, that's actually incorrect. All Mail User Agents (MUA) honor a header that's usually not visible called "Reply-To:" For example, the headers might be:
From:Thomas.Gruber@...
To:TGolding@...
Reply-To: TomG@...

When TGolding receives this message, she won't see the Reply-To, but when she selects Reply, the message will display TomG, not Thomas.Gruber in her MUA.

Larry
Re: #email #email

 

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Hi Larry,
sorry - after thinking a bit more I believe that maybe I misunderstood you.
Do you mean that she believes she¡¯s sending to the person directly, but in fact is sending via ?because the other person has a ?reply to¡° address different from his own ?from¡° address - in fact a reply to in the ?domain??
But doesn't the ?reply to¡° address become visible when you use the ?reply¡° command in the email client, it becomes the ?to¡° address in the response email (instead of the ?from¡° address of the original message)? So it can be checked and modified??
Thomas

hi Larry,
agreed. But Ann¡¯s problem seems to be that her ?from¡° address gets modified. That should be completely under her own control when using the local email client, and sending directly to someone else (not via ). Including her ?reply to¡° address - it¡¯s something that would be set on the local machine. Or am I overlooking something here?
Thomas


Am 09.01.2020 um 21:36 schrieb Laurence Marks <marks@...>:

Thomas wrote:
Hi Ann,
what email client are you using, and on what type of machine (Mac/Windows/Linux/¡­)? It sounds very hard to believe that your email client should modify your ?from¡° address when sending directly, unless you have set it like that yourself in the email client settings, or are sending to ??and not to the person¡¯s personal email address.

Kind regards
Thomas
Thomas, that's actually incorrect. All Mail User Agents (MUA) honor a header that's usually not visible called "Reply-To:" For example, the headers might be:
When TGolding receives this message, she won't see the Reply-To, but when she selects Reply, the message will display TomG, not Thomas.Gruber in her MUA.

Larry
Re: #email #email

 

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hi Larry,
agreed. But Ann¡¯s problem seems to be that her ?from¡° address gets modified. That should be completely under her own control when using the local email client, and sending directly to someone else (not via ). Including her ?reply to¡° address - it¡¯s something that would be set on the local machine. Or am I overlooking something here?
Thomas


Am 09.01.2020 um 21:36 schrieb Laurence Marks <marks@...>:

Thomas wrote:
Hi Ann,
what email client are you using, and on what type of machine (Mac/Windows/Linux/¡­)? It sounds very hard to believe that your email client should modify your ?from¡° address when sending directly, unless you have set it like that yourself in the email client settings, or are sending to ??and not to the person¡¯s personal email address.

Kind regards
Thomas
Thomas, that's actually incorrect. All Mail User Agents (MUA) honor a header that's usually not visible called "Reply-To:" For example, the headers might be:
When TGolding receives this message, she won't see the Reply-To, but when she selects Reply, the message will display TomG, not Thomas.Gruber in her MUA.

Larry
Re: #email #email

 

Roger Colwell wrote:
Larry, both mailserver examples you gave have?p=none?policy tags, which?means that the mailbox provider won't take any actions with the emails that fail DMARC. The other two acceptable 'p' tags are 'quarantine' and 'reject'.

Roger

Roger, Gmail is always listed as the troublesome one. I have a Gmail account but don't get any forums there so I don't have a good example. Here's an arbitrary one that passed.
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
       dkim=pass header.i=@... header.s=20161025 header.b=bFgaeRTy;
       spf=pass (google.com: domain of 3vumlxhqkckmkngjw-xzuutwy-gtzshjlttlqj.htrqrfwpx7555lrfnq.htr@... designates 209.85.220.69 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=3VuMLXhQKCkMkngjw-xzuutwy-gtzshjlttlqj.htrqrfwpx7555lrfnq.htr@...;
       dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=google.com
Re: Replying to a deleted post

 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 12:28 PM, David Grimm wrote:
Is there a way (and is it desirable) to put up a 'This post has been deleted. Are you sure you want to reply?' type flag before allowing a reply to a deleted post? I realize this wouldn't affect members who reply via email, but in that case, would it be prudent to automatically require moderation for a reply to a deleted post?
Dave -- I must admit that I'm not very fond of this idea. In a thread of multiple posts, it's hard to determine,?a priori,?exactly which of the messages is being replied to. I also do not want a function of groups.io that forces me to engage in moderation activity.?

As you noted, the deleted message has already gone out as emails. Removing it from the message archive cannot change that. If the message content was objectionable, we're closing the barn door after the horse has already gotten out.

If you have a one-off need, I suggest you do not delete the post....instead, edit it to remove any objectionable content followed by locking or moderating its topic. If your subscribers are truly unruly, such that this is a persistent problem in need of a software solution, then moderating every post beforehand seems like the best course of action.

My $0.02,
Bruce
Re: #email #email

 

Thomas wrote:
Hi Ann,
what email client are you using, and on what type of machine (Mac/Windows/Linux/¡­)? It sounds very hard to believe that your email client should modify your ?from¡° address when sending directly, unless you have set it like that yourself in the email client settings, or are sending to ??and not to the person¡¯s personal email address.

Kind regards
Thomas
Thomas, that's actually incorrect. All Mail User Agents (MUA) honor a header that's usually not visible called "Reply-To:" For example, the headers might be:
From:Thomas.Gruber@...
To:TGolding@...
Reply-To: TomG@...

When TGolding receives this message, she won't see the Reply-To, but when she selects Reply, the message will display TomG, not Thomas.Gruber in her MUA.

Larry
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