On 08 Jan 2020 23:11, John Pearce wrote:

We have been getting a number of members, in fact 99% who apply, who are sent a pending message asking for a reason to join, and some also have NC status.? They never reply, NC or not and drop off after 14 days.

I suspect most of them are spammers (advertisement bots). It happens to me, too, and it happened in my Yahoogroups, too. These bots do not post advertisements immediately -- they wait weeks or even months before they strike. These are long-term thinking spammers.

Although there the risk that some of these might be real users trying to join and not being able to overcome some barrier, I think that after you've sent them one or two private messages asking them if they want to join the group (and why) and they don't respond, you can safely delete the requests.

Samuel

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 03:03 PM, Nick Kempley wrote:

I’ve read the piece on bouncing, though the rules don’t seem as simple as you imply: number of failures and time between failures do come into the reckoning it seems.

Nick -- Only a "hard" bounce will cause the account to go into Bouncing status after only a single event. A "hard" bounce is something like "account disabled" or "no such user" or some other serious, 500-level error.

It doesn’t clarify to me why the member shown in this screen shot is not bouncing. Their email setting is special, so the only reports refer to the few I’ve sent and I’ve only sent as many as I have due to the transition; before that I sent less than one per year.

If the only bounces returned are "soft" bounces and they happen at infrequent intervals the account may never go into Bouncing status.

It’s going to take forever for the system to recognise that they are no longer with us, one way or the other......

In his member record, click the Activity History button at the top of the page. This will at least tell you if he's recently uploaded a file or posted a message or something.

Unfortunately, if your subscriber is a lurker, and reads online without posting or engaging in any other group activity, there's not much you can do to monitor whether he's checking in, short of deleting his subscription and waiting for a complaint.

Regards,
Bruce?

On 2020-01-05 at 5:39:47 PM, Krist Jake <krist@...> wrote:

My small condo association needs help to move its YG email archive to its
new Groups.io ( ) account. ?I have the Yahoo Zip file. No
documents, photos or anything other than emails needs to be transferred.

I think that Groups.io has or is currently developing support for importing
Yahoo .mbox files. I started a query with [email protected] about this a
while ago and got a response on January 6, 2020 that included "We can now
import the messages from your Yahoo Group export... At this time we are not
able to import any other parts of your Yahoo group."

I haven't yet done the import process myself, but you may want email
[email protected] as well. I have a pre-paid-for-a-year premium group.

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 09:49 PM, emil safier wrote:

How can I find out how much storage we are using?? ?We are concerned about getting close to our limit.? ?What happens when we reach our limit?

Emil -- The answer to this and many other frequently asked questions can be found in the GMF Wiki.

Please review?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Managing-Attachments%2C-Files-and-Photos?and come back with any further questions.

Regards,
Bruce

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 09:49 PM, emil safier wrote:

How can I find out how much storage we are using?? ?We are concerned about getting close to our limit.? ?What happens when we reach our limit?

You can find out how much you are using by clicking on ?Upgrade in Admin.
All members can get an idea from Photos in the left sidebar. The info is below your albums.

Not everything is counted towards storage. See?/static/help#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group

And

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Managing-Attachments%2C-Files-and-Photos

You are supposed to be notified when you are getting close. I believe that it is being ignored for now.
However, you should double-check your settings to see whether you like your choice about Out of Space in Message Policies in Admin, Settings.

Frances

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 09:49 PM, John Pearce wrote:

MAGANAK (Tagalog for family) is a private mailing list for discussion of Filipino/Non-Filipino relationships. This is not a site for introductions which is prohibited.? Members advise each other on adjustments to Filipino and non-Filipino culture, immigration procedures, and other issues of interest in these relationships.

John -- It often happens that folks will apply and subsequently lose interest when they receive a pending subscription notice or some other document and find out the group is not about what they think it is. To that end, consider putting something like THIS IS NOT A DATING SITE in your group description and/or home page.

I don't believe they can see the archives until they are approved.? I thought these people might be bad actors or possibly just not technically proficient.

You might actually be able to head off some of these requests by making your message archives public, but it's too late to do that now (the decision is one-way). Generally speaking it seems unlikely that anything is seriously broken.

How can I find out how much storage we are using?? ?We are concerned about getting close to our limit.? ?What happens when we reach our limit?

~ emil, owner of two groups here.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:19 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:

If you want it to simply come from your private email address, why not send it:
From: your private email address
To: the Pending Member's email address
CC: [email protected]

That is exactly what I did, including the cc, but it turned out that the From line showed my email name = xxx . com @ groups.io.? I had only copied the person's email address from the pending member list, but had not sent the message through groups.io, only through my private email.? It was frustrating.? Maybe if I delete that address from my Contacts, it might help.

As an aside, I finally decided that that message got rejected from icloud.com because, given the address in the From line, they thought it was coming from a bulk sender.? When I clicked on the Help in the rejection, that is what was being talked about.? I mistakenly thought I might need to send it from an Apple device, my iPad, which I did and it worked. Sent again from my private email.

There's always the possibility that one or more members are infected and their address books have been appropriated
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 06:05 PM, John Pearce wrote:

We have been getting a number of members, in fact 99% who apply, who are sent a pending message asking for a reason to join, and some also have NC status.? They never reply, NC or not and drop off after 14 days.? Are these scammers or what?

John -- Probably. The "bad guys" tend to be quickly discouraged by anything that asks them to identify themselves.

One of the moderators has also sent emails asking about their request from his personal account thinking that groups.io is possibly marked as spam by their email provider.? We've heard that happens.? They don't reply.?

All the more reason to think these applications aren't legitimate.

We have had many more requests to join since moving with the automated move from Yahoo a couple of months ago.? In fact we had 10 requests to join in 2018 and none in 2019 with yahoo.? We've had 15 or more since the move 2 months ago.? I can't explain this.

Not sure what 99% of 15 is.? :-)

Are you doing something to publicize the group now that you weren't doing before? Simply sending repeat notices that you're moving could generate interest. I would also be interested to know the subject matter of your group. Some subjects seem to attract more bad eggs than others.

In any event, it sounds to me that your pending subscription notice and other efforts to screen new subscribers are doing what they're supposed to do.

Regards,
Bruce

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Much Thanks. At least now I know to be aware of it.

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 05:03 PM, maryalphaclaus wrote:

How do I correct the time displayed for messages?

See /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/69429366, /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts%2C-Subscription, and /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 05:04 PM, <jbwx@...> wrote:

When we use the "Reply to Sender" feature at the bottom of the emails that we receive, the original email is not included automatically

No, it won't be if replying on the GIO site.? You have to elect to copy any or all of the message yourself.? Your email program is responsible for what it does, if that's where you're sending from.? This was all hashed out several years ago (check the beta group) and what is now done is the optimized version.? Also see /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Replying-to-messages

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We have been getting a number of members, in fact 99% who apply, who are sent a pending message asking for a reason to join, and some also have NC status.? They never reply, NC or not and drop off after 14 days.? Are these scammers or what?? One of the moderators has also sent emails asking about their request from his personal account thinking that groups.io is possibly marked as spam by their email provider.? We've heard that happens.? They don't reply.? We have had many more requests to join since moving with the automated move from Yahoo a couple of months ago.? In fact we had 10 requests to join in 2018 and none in 2019 with yahoo.? We've had 15 or more since the move 2 months ago.? I can't explain this.

When we use the "Reply to Sender" feature at the bottom of the emails that we receive, the original email is not included automatically so we have to restate the reason we are doing the reply.

It would be nice if we could click on Reply to Sender and have the original email included in the reply.? That way, in many cases, we could simply say, "In response to your email below the answer is........".

Thank you,

Jim

Our group messages show in my inbox as PT, I am in CT zone.? How do I correct the time displayed for messages?
Thanks