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Re: Second group to move

 

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The description merges the sample into an email address.
I don't understand what you're saying there.
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How does the sub-group(s) work when reading online?
The same as any other group. In most respects sub-groups are exactly the same as regular groups. The differences mainly involve the fact that the members of the subgroup must be members of the primary group.
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Are messages presented to the users purely in accord with the "visibility" rules?
The subgroup has its own Settings page. With mostly the same controls as any other group.
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It's Visibility setting allows it to be listed in the primary group or not, and its messages to be visible to the subgroup members only, to the primary group members, or even to the public.
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What about people who are members of both the "members" and the "board"? Do they get two copies or does have the logic that says "once is enough"?
Messages are posted to the subgroup are emailed only to the subgroup members, in accordance with their Subscription settings for that subgroup (Individual, Digest, etc.).
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Likewise for messages posted to the primary group.
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So a member of a subgroup would receive two copies of a message only if the sender of that message sent it to both the primary and the subgroup posting addresses. I'm not sure there's any good reason for doing that.
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Since we can't be certain that all Board members are also members of the main group, what would be the construct using "NAIA..." and "Members" and "Board"?
To operate the way I suggested the board members would have to be subscribed to the primary group as well. There's no way around that. They can, however, be set to No Email in the primary group if the primary group's messages would be a distraction to them.
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Whether they are members of the parent organization in real life or not is a separate question, and not necessarily material to the mailing list organization. The only way I can see a problem with this requirement is if those particular board members should be excluded from accessing the material in the primary group. But that seems far-fetched.
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I'm using a rather careful approach as this is something we never considered and if mis-handled, can't be easily undone.
Understood. If you want to experiment with the features of a group with subgroups, feel free to request membership in my test group, .
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Re: rejected payment

 

I used my debit card to pay for 2 groups. No problem (a Visa debit).

Dave Rypma


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 10:58 PM, Frances wrote:

Several people have queried using a debit card. But no one reported back.

Anyone with experience about using a debit card to pay for the upgrade to Premium?

Frances
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Re: Member metrics

 

On 15 Nov 2019 20:08, Charles Roberts wrote:

That's about as laborious as it was on Yahoo.? All the data is there....would be nice if a little code could be written to bring it all together.
Well, if and when the API is up and running, you can use it to get a list of members, and then you can perform an archive search for each member, and then get the last item for each. You should be able to script this quite easily, if you know how.

/api

Samuel


Re: invitee doesn?t appear in the members list

 

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Chris wrote: Victoria; something else to check. Invited Member and Accepted Invitation are both specific actions that are recorded in the Activity log.
Are you able to find entries in your group's log for (a) your invitation and (b) her acceptance of it?

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Chris, I can only see my invitations in the activity log. But I just discovered that when I check the message activity I see attempted mailings to the group by her which contain completely different e-Mail adresses with ¡°icloud¡± and ¡°oufza¡± and other words in them. I just told her this and hope there is an answer for this strange happening because she tried to send the mails with her correct address.

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Re: can owner/moderator update a users profile?

 

On 15 Nov 2019 21:13, Rachel via Groups.Io wrote:

I can't see that I can update a user's profile name and I want to make sure that's correct.
Go to Admin > Members > click the member > edit "Display Name".

This affects that user's display name in that group only (and you can't have a different display name in subgroups, I'm told), but as far as I know, the member can then change their own Display Name to something else again.

So this is useful (e.g. if it is required to use the real name as the display name, but some members forgot to add it).

I know of no way that the moderator can prevent the user from changing their display name (or vice versa).

Samuel


can owner/moderator update a users profile?

 

i can't see that I can update a user's profile name and I want to make sure that's correct.

Thanks,
Rachel


Re: Member metrics

 

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 01:45 PM, Charles Roberts wrote:
would be nice if a little code could be written to bring it all together.
You could suggest it on beta after it's open to suggestions again.? I personally wouldn't expect much support for the idea.? If there is support for the idea, I suspect it would be waaay down the list of implementation.? I don't really see what would be accomplished or what use the information would be.? Maybe you could write a program to automate the existing procedure that could be run on your computer.

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Re: invitee doesn?t appear in the members list

 

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 08:46 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 07:04 PM, Victoria wrote:
Or do I understand something wrong?
Not necessarily. It is just possible that she is looking at a cached page in her browser.

You say that she accepted the invitation you sent with her new email address; can you now see her in your Members List? If not then there is still something wrong. If you can see her, but she can't see your content then I think she should perhaps log out, log back in again and if necessary do a page refresh just to be on the safe side.

If that doesn't work then we'll have to think of something else...
Well, the problem still is that I can?t see her in the members list. She already looged out, logged back in again and did page refreshes.

Victoria


Re: invitee doesn?t appear in the members list

 

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 07:46 PM, I wrote:
can you now see her in your Members List?
Victoria; something else to check. Invited Member and Accepted Invitation are both specific actions that are recorded in the Activity log.

Are you able to find entries in your group's log for (a) your invitation and (b) her acceptance of it?

Chris


Re: Android phone user unable to reply to messages

 

It seems to be a client configuration problem. I suggest asking the subscriber if he has his mail client configured to block sending of mail to either subdomain addresses or foreign top-level domains. Unfortunately, he probably won't know. Maybe if he can simply tell us what client he is using someone else here is also using it and can provide further advice.

Bruce


Re: Android phone user unable to reply to messages

 

On 15 Nov 2019 19:40, Peter Dub¨¦ wrote:

I asked the user for a screen shot. ?Which shows his email app using a truncated return email address. ? Not sure why it¡¯s doing that. ? I told him to fix the address before sending.
Yes, he's trying to send the message to:

[email protected]?subject=Re:Winter projects

instead of to:

[email protected]

Try hovering over or copying the "Reply To Group" link at the bottom of Groups.io mails, and you'll see where it comes from.

He clicked the "Reply To Group" link at the bottom of the e-mail, which is a mailto link but which attempts to include a pre-filled subject line in the link. This pre-filling of subject lines isn't standard, but many e-mail systems or programs do support it in some or other way.

It would mean that his e-mail system (AOL Mail) does not support pre-filled subject lines via the mailto link.

Does AOL Mail not have its own dedicated "Reply" button?

Samuel


Re: I¡¯ve lost all groups, including several I am owner of

David Kirkby
 

On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 at 18:42, Frances <frances@...> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 01:29 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
I can log in okay now from the web interface
If you can log in, can you check your status? Can you get to Admin? Can you look at your activity??

Frances
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I am unsure how to get at my activity, but it looks like this is a new account, but I have been a member for years.?
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Re: I¡¯ve lost all groups, including several I am owner of

David Kirkby
 

On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 at 18:42, Frances <frances@...> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 01:29 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
I can log in okay now from the web interface
If you can log in, can you check your status? Can you get to Admin? Can you look at your activity??

Frances

I can log in, but can¡¯t see how to get to admin. I obviously can¡¯t administer any groups, as I am not a member of any groups apart from this one.?

Looking at my account profile it looks like I joined at 4:47 AM today, but I have been a member for several years.?



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Re: invitee doesn?t appear in the members list

 

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 07:04 PM, Victoria wrote:
Or do I understand something wrong?
Not necessarily. It is just possible that she is looking at a cached page in her browser.

You say that she accepted the invitation you sent with her new email address; can you now see her in your Members List? If not then there is still something wrong. If you can see her, but she can't see your content then I think she should perhaps log out, log back in again and if necessary do a page refresh just to be on the safe side.

If that doesn't work then we'll have to think of something else...

Chris


Re: Member metrics

 

That's about as laborious as it was on Yahoo.? All the data is there....would be nice if a little code could be written to bring it all together.? Anything that lessens the Owner's load and gives them more info to help run their group is a good thing.
Chuck


Re: I¡¯ve lost all groups, including several I am owner of

David Kirkby
 

On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 at 18:37, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:29 PM, David Kirkby wrote:
I could easily rejoin the groups, but in some cases, I am the only owner.
The system is set up so that there must be at least one owner of a group, so there's an email address/account that is owner of those groups, but it's not yours.? I think your best hope is to contact support with as many details as you can furnish.? It sounds like something is 'scrambled' and they'd be the only ones that could fix it.

Duane

Thank you. I will do that.?

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Re: invitee doesn?t appear in the members list

 

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Duane,

I DID invite her with the new address intending to make her a member. And although whe accepted the invitation, she does not become a member. Or do I understand something wrong?

Victoria


Re: My replies to posts not showing up in messages on web

 

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM, Duane wrote:
Your attachment show that there are 2 messages in that Topic (you're in Topic view). Clicking on the title should open it in a new page with both of them displayed.

Duane
I asked about this a couple weeks ago. When you open Messages you see a list of all the topics. Each topic displays the number of messages under that topic. Below each topic is the beginning of the originating message. It would make so much more sense if the beginning of the most recent message was displayed instead, because unless you're keeping track of the number of messages under a topic, knowing how many there are doesn't alert you to a new message. I've failed to find a way to change the listing of topics under the Messages tab to display the beginning of the most recent message(s). Is there a way to do this?

Many thanks -

Deborah
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Re: Problem response uploading member addresses

 

Cindi,

Bruce wrote:

To convert Excel to plain text, do the following:
  1. Select the column containing the email addresses
  2. Type Ctrl-C to copy that column to your clipboard
More directly:

3. Open the Direct Add page for your group, click in the Emails box
4. Type Ctrl+V to paste that column's text from your clipboard.

Shal

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Re: Android phone user unable to reply to messages

 

Thanks for the reply Samuel

I asked the user for a screen shot. ?Which shows his email app using a truncated return email address. ? Not sure why it¡¯s doing that. ? I told him to fix the address before sending.?