HI,

I wanted to change my email that I receive emails as, and it asked me to merge with an existing email account, which I agreed then it said it was going to delete my original account, of which I am the owner of several lists. I do not want that deleted, I can't seem to find a way to "undo" the merge. On the merged account it shows me as only a regular member and not the owner. which i need to be. I can still login to my owner account but it told me it was going to delete it.... please do not delete it. it would be nice if we could setup an email address to have messages sent to and a management email address. Some list have a lot of traffic and it would make managing things easier. And I hope my accounts are not going to be deleted....

Any hep or solutions?
Alan

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 09:06 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:

In this case, the provider did the right thing--caused the user to be unsubscribed--but that's not the general practice.

It wasn't the email provider that unsubscribed them, it was GIO.? The providers return spam reports to GIO and it's up to them what to do.? GIO has decided that to preserve the reputation of the site, they'll unsubscribe those people.? All services should be doing this.? I believe the latest "rules" for email say that not honoring this and continuing to send emails is grounds for blacklisting the entire site/service.? In the early days, GIO was blacklisted by several services until Mark got everything straightened out and developed the unsubscribe system.

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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 08:34 PM, Peter Dubé wrote:

I agree this may be a bug that requires a fix as shutting off that permission takes away some permissions to do valid moderator functions.

If you have all of the other permissions set, they should be able to do everything except promote themselves and delete the group.? The one just above this permission is Set Subscription Options.

You could try reporting it to support, but they're a little busy right now.

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Peter,

I had the situation where I made a member a moderator. He was able to
make himself an owner.

In my opinion this is a bug. An moderator should never be able to apply or remove the Owner role, under any circumstances.

Where do I find the permission so a moderator can not make himself an
owner?

The guilty permission is Set Moderator Privileges. It doesn't say anything about owners, and it shouldn't allow one to affect owners. But it does.

Shal


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I had the situation where I made a member a moderator. ?He was able to make himself an owner. ?Where do I find the permission so a moderator can not make himself an owner? ?Looking at the list of permissions, It is not obvious to me. ?Thanks.

Basic groups can have files, group calendar, photos, wiki, polls, etc.?
They are restricted in amount of storage and you can't have Groups.io transfer your messages, etc. from Yahoo Groups.
See?/static/pricing

See also: ?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

Frances

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However, if we simply created a new group that would the Basic a plan correct? Could that Basic plan then have a few files?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 05:27 PM, Jim Pruitt wrote:

How can I check the status of that group?

You can't.? Only the person that initiated the transfer will see status information for a specific transfer.

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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 09:29 PM, Christoph wrote:

...in our messages we often make links to this files.?

Klicking this links means: you have to make a new login

Does this happen when reading the message as an email or when read on the web UI?

And is this your experience or is it something someone else has reported?

Chris

Dale,

We did nearly the same thing with our message.? BUT, I had spend nearly 8 hours+ scrubbing out the Yahoo Ads, SPAM, porn postings, and odd HTML-5 characters from the message archive.?

I had then saved the messages into an HTML (takes 3mins on fast connection for 31400+ messages to load).

The spread sheet formats open very quickly otherwise.? These are also saved to CVS, then to OpenOffice .ods and finally Office 2013 extended excel format .xlsx

This way, one can filter, search and literally pin-point exactly what they need in seconds.??? Our groups is the 2nd largest tractor membership over there with a combined membership over 4,100+ folks.?
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Our group is very old from Prodigy to GeoCities to Yahoo and now Groups.io.?
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PGOffline helped out greatly.
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Bret

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I am a co-owner of a group that paid the premium fee just before it doubled.? I did not upgrade the group or request the transfer. Where can I find the information for/about the transfer and its status?? The only things that show up when I go to "easy group transfer" and then yahoo groups transfer just lists the 2 groups I had previously transferred and does not show the group I co own.? How can I check the status of that group?

Thank you.

Jim

Bruce,
Cookies are allowed - for example I've 6 groups.io cookies and they? are not discarded after each session. That seems not to be the solution..

Christoph?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 08:01 PM, Sharon Pohlman wrote:

Oh by option I meant that IO group removed a member for spam .

It is not an Option. It is a simple fact of life based on an industry protocol between mail providers. Groups.io has to choose between stopping sending to addressees where a message has been determined as spam (sometimes by the recipient mail provider) or risk being blocked completely.

There is rejoin they can use .

Yes, and your members should use it!

But Let us determine if soemthing is spam so we can address it to the group . How do you reduce the risk in a group that doesn't even discuss things that are questionable . We should be able to see what was said so we know not to let it happen

That simply won't work; it is an entirely automated process that operates without human intervention. You are right in that it might be something in the message content that is causing difficulty but it equally well might not be. Mail providers operate their own detection algorithms and there is no real chance of knowing what might upset one of them.

Did you read the wiki section that Bruce drew to your attention earlier in this thread? There is nothing "secret" about it so by all means either copy it into your own wiki (and draw your members' attention to it!) or post a link to it on your group so that the members can read it; after all it is the members themselves who have to know about it and know what to do and not do to reduce the risk of being removed from membership.

I accept that this must seem highly unsatisfactory from your viewpoint, but you must also accept that there is no setting you can alter to make things any different. You will have to do what the rest of us have to do; live with it and learn how to minimise the impact.

Doug wrote: I am sure someone here can better explain why this happens than I can. See the wiki section that Bruce linked above for chapter and verse..

Chris

Several of us are seeing the same problem?when we log in and got to the download page:

Your Yahoo Groups data

Your download request has been completed, but no data of this type is available in your account.

We have deleted the request and resubmitted and still get nothing back

One person logged in, saw her data, came back a day later and it was gone.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 04:29 PM, Christoph wrote:

Why you must login again (1) -though the user is logged in yet ?

Is it possible to avoid this ? Maybe this is a problem of the browser, because one of our members must not loggin again and again !

Christoph -- The login is stored as a browser cookie. Some people have their browser set up to discard cookies after each session. If you don't want to end up logging in again and again, you have to configure the browser not to do that.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

Re: View profile at?/g/<groupname>/profile/@<profilename>

Thanks. That's very useful. This info should really be in the help pages.

The following is a rant which doesn't require any specific response:

<rant>
The ?page at:

home ->?myname?-> Account -> Identity -> (Global) Account Profile (defaults) or (Group Profiles -> <group name>) -> Edit

doesn't have a title.? It also doesn't tell you whether you're editing the "Account Profile" (really the Global Account Profile defaults), or the account profile for a specific group.

When editing the account profile for a specific group, it should say something like "(default)" for the fields which are using the default.

Also, if editing the account profile for a specific group, there should be a link to the very nice page you pointed me to.
</rant>

Ok, I feel better now.? Thanks

Ben

This is rejection by a mail server for someone or some other mail client software trying to deliver an email to that mail server.? ?Can you send me the full rejection email (aka "bounce" email) including the headers.

Ben Slade