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Re: Trouble logging in on android phone

 

I have had no problem to log in from android.
New member should first set up an account with their email and password. It is free.
Then try to subscribe to the group(s)
Should work


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:21 PM Dotty Bell <quiltsallday@...> wrote:
I am not a new G.io owner, and I'm sorry to ask a question during these busy days. I searched and looked in the wiki for this topic first with no luck.?

I tried to help one of my members log in to our G.io group using her android phone. I started on the homepage to make sure she was not already logged in, and used the Log In link from homepage. On the Log In page, she entered her proper email address and password and clicked on Log In button. She was not taken to G.io. So we tried entering her email and used the " Email me a link" option. She received the email and clicked on the link, and was again not taken to G.io. (If I recall correctly, in both cases she just remained on either the log in or email message page.)

To make sure she was using the proper Login info, I then had her try using my iPad.? She was able to log in successfully using the same email address and password that had failed on her android phone.? Thinking settings on her phone might be the problem, I had another member try logging in on another android phone.? She encountered the same problem -- was not taken to the G.io page. The first member did mention that she might have cookies disabled on her phone, but I didn't think that would prevent a log in (just meant she would have to log in each time she wanted to access the group.)

I can log in using either method on my iPhone, and am taken directly to G.io pages from either the Log In page or the emailed link. I have no experience with android phones.? I hope someone who uses an android phone can offer advice so that I can help my members.?

TIA,
Dotty Bell


Re: Refund

 

I hope you're right about the ease of a refund.? I have my doubts.? When I previously contacted support about something I got a canned response that they were too busy to respond to requests.
Dennis


Re: auto-subscribe member to subgroup #subscription #subgroups

 

Derek,

Can I have a new member automatically subscribed to a sub group (or
groups) without me or another moderator having to direct add, or
inviting the member?
It depends:

The direct answer is no, if the person joins the primary group there's no mechanism to automatically join them to a subgroup.

However:

When you use Direct Add in the primary group there will checkboxes for the subgroups to include them in.

If you Invite them to a subgroup, and they accept, I think they will automatically be added to the primary group as well.

If they issue a +subscribe email to the subgroup, or click the Join/Request button on its home page, I think also they will automatically be added to the Primary group. I'm not sure about this one, I seem to recall there being cases where they'd get an error about needing to join the primary group first, but I think Mark fixed that. Maybe.

I'm also not exactly sure what happens if the primary group has restricted membership and the subgroup does not. You probably need to approve them before they're added to either (I should hope).

Shal


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Re: Growing a group #promotion

 

I figured out how the text was done, and it was like Duane said. Before I figured how the text was done, it didn't occur to me to try and highlight the blank looking areas. I'm using Chrome as my browser, so I tried using the Find function to see if it would reveal any hidden text. I typed in 'keyword' in Find, and low and behold there was the text! I like that idea, so used that little trick on my home page.

Don


Re: Help with transfer - HELP!!!!!!!!

 

Sandra--that's where I am, too, with one of my groups.? I have sent NUMEROUS invitations to the new group.io, but groups.io has never responded and joined the yahoo group.? It's really annoying since groups.io took $220 to do the transfer!

Dennis Steckley


Re: Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?

 

Great idea comparing the Message History grid.? Many of the discrepancies are matched up in end-of-month mismatches, but several don't.? But bottom line, nothing adds up to 133 missing messages.? It's actually less than 10.

Maybe it has something to do with threads/topics?

In fact, if I switch from Topic view to Message view, the Groups.io count jumps to 13204, which is close enough to the YahooGroups count of 13207 for me.? Thanks for the idea!

Mon Yr???? YG?? Gio
Jan 2001? 29?? 31

Jan 2006? 55?? 56

Feb 2007? 78?? 77

Mar 2007? 96?? 95

Dec 2007? 77?? 74
Jan 2008? 50?? 53

Nov 2009? 45?? 46
Dec 2009? 43?? 42

Oct 2011? 74?? 75
Nov 2011? 90?? 89

Jun 2012? 88?? 87

Oct 2015? 74?? 75
Nov 2015? 45?? 44

Feb 2017? 43?? 44
Mar 2017? 40?? 39

May 2017? 28?? 29
Jun 2017? 61?? 60

Oct 2017? 34?? 35

Jun 2018? 39?? 40
Jul 2018? 30?? 29

Dec 2018? 33?? 34
Jan 2019? 64?? 63


Trouble logging in on android phone

 

I am not a new G.io owner, and I'm sorry to ask a question during these busy days. I searched and looked in the wiki for this topic first with no luck.?

I tried to help one of my members log in to our G.io group using her android phone. I started on the homepage to make sure she was not already logged in, and used the Log In link from homepage. On the Log In page, she entered her proper email address and password and clicked on Log In button. She was not taken to G.io. So we tried entering her email and used the " Email me a link" option. She received the email and clicked on the link, and was again not taken to G.io. (If I recall correctly, in both cases she just remained on either the log in or email message page.)

To make sure she was using the proper Login info, I then had her try using my iPad. ?She was able to log in successfully using the same email address and password that had failed on her android phone. ?Thinking settings on her phone might be the problem, I had another member try logging in on another android phone. ?She encountered the same problem -- was not taken to the G.io page. The first member did mention that she might have cookies disabled on her phone, but I didn't think that would prevent a log in (just meant she would have to log in each time she wanted to access the group.)

I can log in using either method on my iPhone, and am taken directly to G.io pages from either the Log In page or the emailed link. I have no experience with android phones. ?I hope someone who uses an android phone can offer advice so that I can help my members.?

TIA,
Dotty Bell


Re: Managing Direct Add Membership Query

 

John,

Does this mean that the Moderation status becomes the group default,
or can it be imported?
What I've done in the past is temporarily change the Default Sub Settings to be what I want for the added members just before doing the Direct Add. And then put it back after. A bit clumsy, I admit, and you could get a misfire if someone joins on their own (or via another moderator) at the same time.

Shal


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Mr. Farley,

Got it. I still don't have the green Give go ahead.... button yet. I will wait for it. Thank you.

Scott.


Re: Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?

 

Ron,

You can also compare the Message History grid on your groups.io ¡°Home¡± page for your group with the equivalent on the Yahoo site. It¡¯s a bit tedious, but you should be able to determine which months have discrepencies. I did this for my group (11 years, 1300 messages) and found the discrepencies. All were spam that was removed, duplicates, or mismatches in Date sent versus Date received which caused them to appear in a different month.

Although, it¡¯s odd since you¡¯re the only poster, but you should be able to figure it out.

Gilbert

On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:15 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:38 PM, Ron wrote:
Is there a way to export Groups.io messages in mbox format so I could 'diff' it against the YahooGroups mbox export and identify the oddities that way?
Yes. In Admin>Settings, click the "Export Group Data" button at the top of the page.

Bruce


Re: Personalgroupware (PG Offline)

 

Larry,

Our group prefers to use the messages in one large Excel file.? About 9Mb for a mere 32,000 messages.

This way, exported from PGOffline as a CVS file, and then into OpenOffice, and excel file can be made.? This file than can be saved in a files location on Groups.io to download.? The file is easy to search for topics or words or just about anything really.

I have 3 groups merging into 1 here.? PGOffline give the flexibility, but a person must do the leg work to make it all happen.? Reading how these other group are doing direct transfers and their problems, I believe our actions are working better in the long run.

Next to the John Deere tractor group, our tractor group is the second largest at 4,294 members.?
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Scott,

How exactly do I tell Groups.io that I am ready? Do I click Update
Transfer button?
No, the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button. See the screenshot at the bottom of Step 3 here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Step 4 you've accomplished, and when you click that button you should advance to the next screen, as shown in Step 5.

Note that the status message shown at the top of screenshot in Step 5 has been updated to be more informative, but I haven't run another transfer in order to get a fresh screen shot. If anyone out there is running a transfer and would like to send me off-list new screen shots (of any step in that page) I'll be happy to update the page.

Shal


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subgroups and members of the main group becoming membes of it

 

Can a subgroup be set up so that all members of the main group can
automatically be members of both the main and sub group once I create
it?

I plan on storing the old Yahoo messages in a subgroup, separate from
the main one.

If this is possible, how is that worked out, and if not, what's the
best way to get everyone to become a member of the subgroup? Some
members will no doubt be PC challenged, as is the case with many
groups.

Donald

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Re: Refund

 

Dennis,

How easy is it to get a refund if yahoo continues to change the rules
and glitch and I am not able to transfer a group for which I've
already paid the $220?
Easy. Just contact [email protected]

At this point it seems about the only thing that's likely to stand in your way is if you are unable to invite or promote the transfer agent in your Yahoo Group. See the "Test your ability to promote members in your Yahoo Group" in the Preparation section of GMF's transfer notes:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

The queue of groups waiting to be exported from Yahoo seems to be relatively short, and once past that stage the content that could be read from Yahoo is secure at Groups.io. So you should still have plenty of time before the Yahoo cutoff.

Shal


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Mr. Bowman,

OK, now I have made the [email protected] member a moderator and returned to the "Existing Transfer"?and I am ready to? transfer, and tell us that you are ready for the transfer to happen. How exactly do I tell Groups.io that I am ready? Do I click Update Transfer button? I just don't want to do something to mess it up. Thanks again.

Scott.


Re: deleting messages

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 09:43 PM, WBennett wrote:

This is an established groups.io group from back in January 2018.

Important to know...for those who have recently transferred, the attachments were not transferred with your messages.

I know about the messages not counting towards the 1gig allocation. I was hoping that I could delete early messages, thereby deleting any attachments or insertions in them at the same time. There is no point in keeping the messages if the related attachments or insertions are removed anyway.

Sort the messages in inverse date order by clicking the Date link at upper right, then see?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22411?for instructions on how to delete messages and/or entire topics. It is tedious.

If most of your attachments consist of photos, they might be more efficiently deleted from the Emailed Photos folder.

See also:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Deleting%20attachments,%20files%20and%20photos

Bruce


Re: deleting messages

 

(Will this happen, or will the attachments stay in storage even though the corresponding message is no longer there?)
I just tested and deleting a topic (or message) deletes the attachment. In Photos, I can see the amount of storage going down after I delete some. Just go to Photos - menu on the left in your group home.

As far a jumping down a list, you can't jump ahead except the small amount displayed but you can change the number of items displayed on the screen. Go to your name in the top right corner. Choose Account, Preferences, change the number for Items per Page. (Some reported problems with infinite scroll.)
Be sure to Update Preferences at the bottom of the page.

I can¡¯t find any way to jump to the oldest message other than change the date order ¡­ is that correct?
Just by using the toggle beside word date - the little blue triangle.

Frances


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Re: deleting messages

 

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Thank you Frances¡­

This is an established groups.io group from back in January 2018.

I know about the messages not counting towards the 1gig allocation. I was hoping that I could delete early messages, thereby deleting any attachments or insertions in them at the same time. There is no point in keeping the messages if the related attachments or insertions are removed anyway.

There are no photo albums, just the folder of images inserted in the emails (and I¡¯ve already attempted to delete those on several previous occasions with problems about clicking on an image to open it does not open the selected photo but opens one or 2 further on. This problem has never been resolved despite a couple of emails to Mark a LONG time ago before the current Yahoo debacle, he didn¡¯t even respond to the last one.

There is no Wiki containing photos, no database¡­ all I have are messages with attached and/or inserted images.

The files area is only 84 MB in total, so is not really a problem.

I have looked through this groups Wiki and there is nothing (or I can¡¯t find it) which is helpful to my specific request.

So, once again, do I have to open each message to be able to delete it??

Win

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frances
Sent: Friday, 8 November 2019 12:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] deleting messages

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Win, good news! Messages don't count as part of your allowance.

What Is Counted Towards The Storage Limits For My Group?

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The following are counted towards the storage limits for your group:

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Files

Photos

Images in databases

Images in wiki pages

Message attachments

Messages themselves are not counted towards the storage limits, only any attachments.

Source:
/static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group

Removing content is tedious. If you view messages as topics, it is faster. But only remove old ones with attachments. If you migrated from YahooGroups, attachments weren't migrated.

See 5. What gets transferred using the Transfer Agent?

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Groups.io can transfer message archives, properly owned and properly threaded, (without attachments, however), photos, files, links and databases. Calendar entries are not copied at this time. Subscribers (members) are also transferred, maintaining their subscription options and ownership of each message and other group content.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

Frances

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Re: Multiple copies of the same message

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 09:36 PM, jdgalt wrote:
Is there a way to tell the groups.io system to keep only the latest
version of each edited message?
Well, that's kinda what happens anyway.

In the online message archive, only the most recent version of a message will display. But if it's been edited, you can click on the blue Edited tag at upper right to show what changes have been made, and when.

As far as emails are concerned, every time a regular subscriber edits a message, it is sent out again to those who are on Individual Emails delivery. If that is objectionable, you need to train people to get their edits right the first time, or simply disable message editing entirely in your settings (Admin>Settings>Message Policies>Disable Editing Messages).

Bruce


Re: Multiple copies of the same message

 

On 11/07/2019 06:26 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 09:19 PM, jdgalt wrote:

None of which is the command I need: "Find his Messages."

Click on that member's record, anywhere in the row, to open it. On the
User Name row, click "View Profile." When the profile page opens, click
"All Messages by this Member."

Or if you already have one of his messages open, click open the "More"
hamburger menu at bottom right and select the menu entry with the same name.
Thanks, that worked!

Now that I see it, it looks like he posted a message and then edited
that same message over and over again.

Is there a way to tell the groups.io system to keep only the latest
version of each edited message?