Re: Help deciphering a message
On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:36 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
?Looking at their delivery I saw this and wonder if any of experts out there can decipher it?
That means that it was accepted by Outlook.? It doesn't tell how long they may hold it before passing it on. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: Change destination for one of my group transfers
Yes, I do understand what *go-ahead means*. Since as Dale said a lot of this transfer is manual, I was assuming that it was possible for a human to do a replace on the destination. I have changed the name of the group. ?If there is a way to let the transfer system know the new destination, I can do that. If not, I will forfeit the payment I made for that particular transfer. Here is the information: Original request asked for a transfer from radiantrecovery@...?to [email protected]I have moved the members from [email protected]?to [email protected]?and will proceed with the discussion there. I would like the messages from radiantrecovery@...?to go into [email protected]And for the record. I totally get how stressful this is for all of us. This was NOT an error on my part, it was an understanding that came as a result of the process. I am simply working on the best way to achieve something that is important to me without creating a problem on your end. Kathleen
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Re: Member Switchover Timing
On 11/5/2019 11:17 AM, Gilbert Coville wrote: If I were to do it over, I would have used a separate email address as the owner of the groups.io group, let all the members transfer in, then merged my new account into my old account to retain my join date.
Gilbert When I was setting up transfers last year, I used a different email address to create the groups at groups.io, as you suggest above. After the groups transferred I then had two accounts, one as owner and one as a regular group member. I did not merge these, but instead I set the owner account to no mail delivery on each group to avoid getting two copies of messages by email. With the two types of membership, I can now view the group's features and operation as either owner or member, which often helps in resolving other members' problems and questions. -- Bill
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Help deciphering a message
Hello,? One of our members does not always receive the Digests - they say. ?Looking at their delivery I saw this and wonder if any of experts out there can decipher it? 2.6.0 <[email protected]> [InternalId=12060268193571, Hostname=HE1EUR04HT250.eop-eur04.prod.protection.outlook.com] 58595 bytes in 0.583, 97.996 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery -> 250 2.1.5
Peter
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Re: How long for groups.io to become a member
On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 11:05 AM, Dennis Steckley wrote:
I started the "transfer" a week ago and groups.io shows that, but they have not shown up as a member in the corresponding yahoogroup, so I can't make them a moderator and keep the process going?
Dennis -- Did you go to your Yahoo Group and send an invitation to [email protected]??After you select your Existing Transfer at? /yahootransfer?, what does the status box at the top of the resulting page say? The transfer agent will not join the Yahoo group without an invitation, and sometimes Yahoo fails to send an invitation even when you tell it to. Bruce
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Re: #membership Members with Registered Emails, But Nowhere To Be Found
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It is also possible that her account had the desired address listed as an email alias. A setting that the member can make in the Account->Login section. Perhaps the yahoo transfer process is populating that in some cases.
Gilbert
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On Nov 5, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Ann Wild via Groups.Io <annlwild@...> wrote:
Thanks for your input. Her so-called registered name and her preferred email address were the same. I searched both of them in the member directory. Also looked for her last name which was already in the member list under her old email. I tried every possible search. But that so-called registered address could not be found. It was obviously somehow connected to her original membership, but I have no idea how that happened.
i wouldn't have mentioned this, but I just ran into it again.
Re display names: I am going through my member list and adding them so they now appear in messages. But that had nothing to do with this problem.
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Re: how to make a person an owner
On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 03:41 PM, Susan B wrote:
I am owner but need to add a second one.
Susan; further to my earlier post there is a risk to all this unless you know your appointee for second owner well and trust them implicitly. All Owners are equal, and Groups.io does not discriminate between the "real" owner and a reserve one. It is thus possible for an appointed owner to ddemote the real one and even remove them from the group they created. The same risk exists if someone appointed as a moderator is given Set Moderator Privileges as one of their Permissions. An owner has that permission by default, along with all the others. Chris
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Re: #membership Members with Registered Emails, But Nowhere To Be Found
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Thanks, Bruce. ?The member I was referring to was indeed a member of other groups at her new preferred address. ?So when I run into this again, I will get the OK from the member and then delete and direct add, which works.
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Re: Member Switchover Timing
When I migrated my Yahoo group over, I did not allow new members to join the new group. When the migration finished, I received a summary email explaining how many messages, files, photos, members were transferred, including a list of members that were not transferred. There was only one address not transferred, mine, because it was already subscribed.
All the join dates of the members were preserved, but mine was not. It¡¯s a tiny bit of nostalgia lost, but not too bad.
If I were to do it over, I would have used a separate email address as the owner of the groups.io group, let all the members transfer in, then merged my new account into my old account to retain my join date.
Gilbert
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On Nov 5, 2019, at 5:32 AM, Diane <dianed143@...> wrote:
What is her membership status? i.e. did she retain her join date of the yahoo date or is it the current join date? Not that most people will care, just curious.
Diane
On Nov 5, 2019, at 8:16 AM, Juulz <julesmcn@...> wrote:
I just completed an experiment for Bruce... One of my existing members joined our new empty group here, with the same email address, before the import. Bruce wondered it she still retained ownership of her messages AFTER the import, so I asked her to edit a message from 2016 in our newly imported group.
Voila! She was able to do so. Ownership was retained!
Also, her edit was sent for re-moderation and approval to post.
Hopefully, our little test will allay one worry about moving members and getting going here while awaiting import.
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 03:59 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
On the other hand, there is still a potential gotcha. As far as I know, you must use the same Yahoo account email address for your account on groups.io.
I have wondered about this and the possible implications in a sort of detached way. Let us consider a hypothetical person who is currently the member of a Yahoo group that is being migrated to Groups.io. That person will (obviously) have an email address associated with that Yahoo group. However, the same person may already have a Groups.io Account covering other Groups.io groups. and might have a different email address as the account identifier. The migration process will not realise that the two people are in fact one and the same and will set about creating another account using the email address imported from Yahoo. I know the resultant muddle is not insoluble but I can well envisage quite a few confused people trying to work out what has happened. Chris
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Re: #bug #bouncedemails Updated Email Addresses Still Show As Bouncing
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I have updated a correct email address for some bouncing members, and the correction shows up in the member list. ?But when I look at the bouncing list, these folks still show up as bouncing even though the corrected email address also shows. ?Does it just take time for my correction to work and the member to be no longer in the bouncing list? ?Or do I have to delete the old membership and direct add the new member with the new address? ? This does not seem necessary since the correct address shows in the member list.
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Re: limits on wiki html --- embed ? , iframe ? , etc (?)
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Re: how to make a person an owner
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Re: #membership Members with Registered Emails, But Nowhere To Be Found
#membership
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Thanks for your input. ?Her so-called registered name and her preferred email address were the same. ?I searched both of them in the member directory. ?Also looked for her last name which was already in the member list under her old email. ?I tried every possible search. ?But that so-called registered address could not be found. ?It was obviously somehow connected to her original membership, but I have no idea how that happened.
i wouldn't have mentioned this, but I just ran into it again.
Re display names: I am going through my member list and adding them so they now appear in messages. ?But that had nothing to do with this problem.
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Re: Emergency TECH Support
Can¡¯t she/he adjust the groups¡¯ settings to put posting and reading archives on hold while sorting this out? I.E ?Make it an ¡°announcement¡± group or something?
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How long for groups.io to become a member
How long should I expect before groups.io shows up as a member of my yahoogroup?? I started the "transfer" a week ago and groups.io shows that, but they have not shown up as a member in the corresponding yahoogroup, so I can't make them a moderator and keep the process going?? I tried starting the process from scratch again, but groups.io won't do that unless I send them ANOTHER $220!
Dennis Steckley
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Re: how to make a person an owner
On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 11:52 AM, Susan B wrote:
I clicked on the member, I looked at Actions, I don¡¯t see where you can change the role. Where s that spot?
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Susan B
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Susan, If you are at "Actions", you are lost. Follow the instructions...
- Go Admin, to the Members tab at the left hand side of your groups.io homepage.
- Either by scrolling through the list of members presented, or by searching on their Display Name or email address (or just a part thereof), find the email address you want to change.
- Click on the "member's line" anywhere other than the checkbox at the left hand side of their entry in the list.?
- That "click" will take you to the page detailing that person's Membership. The fourth section on the page is called Role. It will (or should!) say Member.?
- At the right hand side of the line with "Member" in it is a drop - down arrow.
- Click on the arrow and a drop - down list will appear with the options of Member / Moderator / Owner available.
- Click on Owner, and "Owner" will appear in the place where Member previously appeared.
? -- Gerald
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 09:30 AM, Juulz wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 03:02 PM, Juulz wrote:
I had a member join BEFORE the import. All of their messages imported correctly.... all the way back to 2003.
My member did retain ownership of her previous messages and tested by successfully editing one as a test.
Thanks Bruce for requesting the test... I think this will help many during this stressful transfer period.
Juulz, Excellent work on actually verifying the assumption. Having gone through that experience years ago with many groups moving from Yahoo, I know that this worked back then. Not surprised that it still works.?On the other hand, there is still a potential gotcha. As far as I know, you must use the same Yahoo account email address for your account on groups.io. When the earlier transfers took pace, I did not want to continue using my old Yahoo.com email address, so I joined the transferred Yahoo groups on GIO using my current non-Yahoo email address and I ended up with two memberships in the groups. Ultimately, I killed off the yahoo email address subscription. But this lost my "ownership" of old posts. They still have my name in them, but I no longer "own" them. I also lost my original joining date, but I am willing to live with that. At that time, merging accounts was more or less a manual process. It has been automated since, so there may be a process whereby one can merge accounts and not have this happen, but I have not figured it out. ? -- Gerald
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