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Re: Moderator Changing Subscriber's Display Name

 

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 07:25 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
But speaking of which, I just noticed a much worse problem.
Given what has emerged on beta this thread may well have run its course here!

For the moment, anyway...

Chris


Re: Is there a way to shorten an email address created using integration?

 

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:36 AM, Joe - K5HMD wrote:
Turns out that SPOT has problems with the long address that was created in the integration process. The address works if I send a test message to it myself, but SPOT has problems handling it.

Is there a way of creating an address that is shorter?
Joe -- There is currently no way to create an "alternate" email integration address within groups.io that meets your requirements. The integration address has to be long and complicated to not only be unique to your group/integration but also to provide some assurance that it won't be guessed/hacked.?

If you have access to email forwarding of some kind, you could have SPOT send it to a shorter address that's within your control, which is subsequently forwarded to the groups.io integration address. I know that GMail has this capability () and a lot of other services do, too.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Duplicate photos

 

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 07:31 AM, Mick Anderson wrote:
This problem of duplicate photos is driving me crazy.
It drives me crazy, too. Fortunately, that's a short drive.

When a message contains a photo it is copied to the "Photos" section.
Then every reply to the message copies it to the "Photos" again.
I have asked before and been told to "strip" the image from replies .
How?? I need to explain the method in detail to members.
Please see my response of July 18 (/g/GroupManagersForum/message/17808).

There is no single "way to do this." Email clients vary widely in their behavior. We might be able to provide instructions for stripping attachments in replies for (say) Thunderbird, but that won't help any subscriber using Outlook Express or W10 Mail or Eudora or Apple Mail or...

If everyone was using the same app, this kind of thing would be under groups.io's control; or at least we could provide one satisfactory answer. That's the main reason why an app is under development; but there has been no timeline posted as to when it might become available.

In the meantime (per Andy), your best bet may be to put all messages with attachments on moderation. See Admin>Settings>Message Formatting>Attachments. Depending on attachment traffic in your group, that could be a chore...but you might prefer that to wearing a straightjacket.? :-)

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Is there a way to shorten an email address created using integration?

 

I've created an integrated address so that my FindMeSpot account can send notifications to my group.? Turns out that SPOT has problems with the long address that was created in the integration process. The address works if I send a test message to it myself, but SPOT has problems handling it.

Is there a way of creating an address that is shorter?

Thanks,
Joe


Duplicate photos

 

This problem of duplicate photos is driving me crazy.
When a message contains a photo it is copied to the "Photos" section.
Then every reply to the message copies it to the "Photos" again.
I have asked before and been told to "strip" the image from replies .
How?? I need to explain the method in detail to members.

Mick


Re: Multiple attachment deletions

 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:35 AM, P H LLOYD wrote:
If someone sends a picture as an attachment, then someone else replies to it with the original message, then a second copy of the picture gets logged into the Archives, taking up room we may need later.
I got a bit behind on my emails so have only just seen this:

We have the same issue as a large number of our members respond by email and don;t consider trimming their posts.? We have set our groups to moderate all messages with attachments we get the opportunity to remove images that would cause duplicates.? We always add a moderator note like those you see here on GMF when that is done. The majority of images trapped for moderation to begin with were those in email signatures and people learned quite quickly that if they wanted their message to be posted without delay they should remove the graphics.

Andy


Re: What is a subgroup

 

Sandy,


... I'm thinking of starting subgroups for our guild's officers & committees ...

That seems like a natural fit. Similar to how I use Groups.io for my PTA lists. The primary group is all unit members, and then subgroups for the board, teachers, committees, etc.

My continuing issue is member trepidation in using

Tell them to "come on in, the water's warm".? ;-)

Their concerns, of course, will depend on the member's background and the nature of your group. Feel free to relate some of the concerns here if you'd like suggestions about addressing them.

Also, GMF's wiki is readable by the public - feel free to pass on links to any pages that might seem helpful. Each page has a link icon near the upper right which you can copy/paste as a reference to that page.

Shal


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Re: Earthlink Blocking Email

 

On Jul 29, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Dummler <jkdummler@...> wrote:

I have a group member who is not receiving emails because his internet provider, Earthlink, is blocking them. He¡¯s followed their instructions, but somehow he¡¯s not able to unblock his groups.io incoming mail. Any suggestions?
We have the same problem with everyone with an earthlink account. They receive some but not dependably. They have set up other email addresses just for Groups.io.

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Earthlink Blocking Email

Jeremy Dummler
 

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Hello all,

I have a group member who is not receiving emails because his internet provider, Earthlink, is blocking them. ?He¡¯s followed their instructions, but somehow he¡¯s not able to unblock his ?incoming mail. ?Any suggestions?

Thank you,
Jeremy Dummler
Wauconda, IL


Re: Moderator Changing Subscriber's Display Name

 

Chris,


Odd; any trial changes I have made (on two lists!) do show the D/N of the target subscriber.

True, but that's not what I'm concerned about.

My group might have a dozen members with a Display Name of "Chris", but which one did a co-moderator just change to "Chris Jones"? Absent the member's email address I can't necessarily uniquely identify them.

Shal


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Re: Moderator Changing Subscriber's Display Name

 

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 07:25 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
The entry identifies the moderator who did it, but not the member whose Display Name was changed.
Odd; any trial changes I have made (on two lists!) do show the D/N of the target subscriber. The moderator's name is a link to his/her subscription page; the target isn't - it's "plain".

Have a look on your test group for a trial change I did there.

Chris


Re: Moderator Changing Subscriber's Display Name

 

Chris,


IMHO there is still a glitch in the system in that a Moderator changing a Member's Display Name is still being recorded as a Member Activity rather than a Moderator Activity.

Interesting point.
Actually I'd argue it should be in both, as an action by a moderator that affects a member. The same as a change of role is listed in both. My reasoning is that if a tug-of-war happened between a member and a mod changing the member's Display Name I'd hate to have to figure that out by cross-referencing both lists. I suppose the counter-argument is that I could use the All list in that case.

But speaking of which, I just noticed a much worse problem. The entry identifies the moderator who did it, but not the member whose Display Name was changed. Oops! I've added that to my support thread.

Shal


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Re: Moderator Changing Subscriber's Display Name

 

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Re: Moderator Changing Subscriber's Display Name

 

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I as a moderator agree. I would not do this with otu the member's permission however since I did it it should be under my activity not under jane doe's.

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On 29 Jul 2019, at 4:59, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 02:23 PM, I wrote:
A highly satisfactory outcome. :)
To which Shal wrote: Until it isn't.

IMHO there is still a glitch in the system in that a Moderator changing a Member's Display Name is still being recorded as a Member Activity rather than a Moderator Activity.

As the activity is one being carried out by a Moderator then my view is that it should be logged as such.

Do others agree, and if so should it be flagged up with Mark?

Chris


Re: Lock group button

 

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 01:35 AM, Don Grass wrote:
Does this lock out function lock everyone out of the group even owners and moderators?
Short answer:? Yes.? Long answer:? See the new wiki entry at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Locking_A_Group

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Re: What is a subgroup

 

Thanks good explanation - I'm thinking of starting subgroups for our guild's officers & committees - My continuing issue is member trepidation in using groups.io
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Re: File Attachements #files

 

Have had no file issue but the purpose of our groups.io is to keep our guild documents: minutes, membership, by-laws, show data, projects, etc.? These type of documents typically come from our officers or committee chairs or they send to me to post.? Most of our members are not tech savey so they rarely sign-on as they get the daily digests, etc.??
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Re: Moderator Changing Subscriber's Display Name

 

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 02:23 PM, I wrote:
A highly satisfactory outcome. :)
To which Shal wrote: Until it isn't.

IMHO there is still a glitch in the system in that a Moderator changing a Member's Display Name is still being recorded as a Member Activity rather than a Moderator Activity.

As the activity is one being carried out by a Moderator then my view is that it should be logged as such.

Do others agree, and if so should it be flagged up with Mark?

Chris


Re: Lock group button

 

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Does this lock out function lock everyone out of the group even owners and moderators?

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Don

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Subject: Re: [GMF] Lock group button

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On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 08:42 AM, Duane wrote:

Unless someone has actually used the function, we're all sort of guessing based on posted information.

I've checked it out. It's only available to Premium groups, and does what it says it does -- makes everything unalterable and read-only.?

I could see the function having some usefulness to lock down a group (or more likely, a subgroup*) that you don't really need anymore but still want to keep the archive available for reference purposes. There may be other applications that are less obvious to me.

Bruce

*I'm not sure I would pay $110/year to maintain a static and inactive group.
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Re: Moderating Posts Based on Filtered Words

 

Marcio,

Do you think we should suggest it again?
I would have suggested just replying in favor Samuel's suggestion, and I may do that, but given how far off the rails that thread has gone perhaps it would be best if you start a new topic.

If you do, I suggest including a reference to Samuel's suggestion, to save people the trouble of pointing it out to you. Hopefully that will also discourage them from reiterating all the chaff about general moderation approaches and the futility of group guidelines.

Shal


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