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Re: Database page issues

 

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 03:54 PM, Josh Halpern wrote:
1.? Can the +Add new line button be moved to the top of the page.? It is time consuming to scroll down for each new entry
This is not currently a group- or user-configurable option.?I would prefer that *all* of the database controls be at the top, not just the Add button.

2.? Can the list display be forced to allow only a single line for each entry.
If you set a width for any table column, the others will be scaled to accommodate it (note: these widths are in PIXELS, not characters).

Somewhat obviously, whether everything will fit is highly dependent on screen width, the number of columns in the database table, and the length of individual table entries. What looks good on your computer may not look good on someone else's.?

I find that I get my best formatting on all devices by?leaving all column widths at zero (the default). You might want to also go through all your table data and remove any non-breaking spaces, replacing them with actual (i.e.: html-friendly) whitespace characters.
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Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Can't figure out how to get rid of NC (not confirmed)

 

I searched past posts and found my answer. The NC people have not yet replied to the email verification link, apparently. Thx!


Database page issues

Josh Halpern
 

I have two questions

1.? Can the +Add new line button be moved to the top of the page.? It is time consuming to scroll down for each new entry
2.? Can the list display be forced to allow only a single line for each entry.

Thanks
Josh Halpern
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Can't figure out how to get rid of NC (not confirmed)

 

Hello,
I've started a group and for some reason, despite my approving some people, a few of them show up with a pink NC next to their names...not confirmed. But I've approved them and have no limits on their posting. Anyone know how I can fix this? Thank you!
-Tami


Re: Backing up my groups

 

Hi David,

Seeing that your message was posted a year ago I assume you've already discovered this, but in case not, I had the same question and just found Settings > Export Group Data.?

Cheers!
Teri


Re: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .

 

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Re: Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

 

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:49 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
I think the only thing the moderator can't do with that permission is change someone's role to or from Owner. I think.
Nope.? I changed myself to owner (and back) and could have removed everyone else and/or deleted the group.? That's why I was thinking maybe you'd restricted it.

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Re: Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

 

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:49 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Showing that same list of checkboxes, but disabled (unchangeable), would be a way of letting moderators figure out for themselves why they can or can't do certain things in the group. I don't like mysterious (lack of) functionality in user interfaces - I'm a firm believer in de-mystifying where practical.
Agreed.

At some risk, I have split off this thread and given it a new, more relevant subject line. Those who wish to further discuss customization of message footers (as opposed to looking up Moderator privileges), please reply to the original thread.

Thanks,
Bruce
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Re: Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

Gerald Boutin
 

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 01:30 PM, Duane wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:23 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
Is this something that ought to be raised on beta; there is nowhere a moderator can go to find a definitive list of what they can and cannot do if that box is not checked.
Yes, I think it would be worth suggesting - a place for moderators to see what privileges they have - rather than have to just try to see if it can be done.

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Agreed.

I think it might be as straight forward as having the "Moderator Permissions" section always be shown if the user has Moderator status, but in read-only mode. The same should apply on the "Subscription" page as a Moderator may not be given access to the Member list.
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Re: Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

 

Chris,

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However, in shalstest that entry simply isn't there, and neither can I see it in (for example) Brian's equivalent entry.

So perhaps as Duane suggested it is the Set Moderator Privileges checkbox that controls it.
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That is correct.
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Leaving that one unchecked is an old habit of mine, because giving it out makes the moderator (almost) all-powerful. I think the only thing the moderator can't do with that permission is change someone's role to or from Owner. I think.

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Is this something that ought to be raised on beta; there is nowhere a moderator can go to find a definitive list of what they can and cannot do if that box is not checked.
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I'd like to see it raised again.
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I'm pretty sure I asked for it once long ago but some group owners didn't want it shown to moderators, for fear of hurt feelings or arguments ("why won't you let me xxx"); in my own view that concern is silly. Worse than silly, it reflects the kind of manager that gives their subordinates the "mushroom treatment".

Showing that same list of checkboxes, but disabled (unchangeable), would be a way of letting moderators figure out for themselves why they can or can't do certain things in the group. I don't like mysterious (lack of) functionality in user interfaces - I'm a firm believer in de-mystifying where practical.
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Re: Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

 

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 05:30 PM, Duane wrote:
Yes, I think it would be worth suggesting - a place for moderators to see what privileges they have - rather than have to just try to see if it can be done.
OK; I will put something together, but not until after I have done a test or two on the group I co - own promoting my "other membership" to moderator with limited privileges with and without Set Moderator Privileges being one of them. It might provide a more complete picture of the situation as it currently exists.

I am going to be out for most of this evening (UK time!) so it is unlikely to be before tomorrow.

Chris


Re: Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

 

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:23 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
Is this something that ought to be raised on beta; there is nowhere a moderator can go to find a definitive list of what they can and cannot do if that box is not checked.
Yes, I think it would be worth suggesting - a place for moderators to see what privileges they have - rather than have to just try to see if it can be done.

Duane
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Re: MEMBER KEEPS GETTING KICKED OUT OF GROUP

 

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Lavon wrote:
How can I as an owner help her with this problem ?
There's an entire Wiki page covering this:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam

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MEMBER KEEPS GETTING KICKED OUT OF GROUP

Lavon
 

We have had the same lady at least 7 times get a notice that she has been removed.? How can I as an owner help her with this problem ?? She is the only one that keeps getting these messages.? I've told her to check her spam folder often to make sure everything is ok.? She is the only one in our group that this happens too.? Message below is what she is getting,
This is to notify you that [redacted] has been unsubscribed from your group [redacted] because a message to them was marked as spam. Note that this may have been done by their email service provider, not by the individual member personally. They've been given a link that lets them quickly resubscribe, in case this was an error.


Re: Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

 

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 04:50 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
When I go to Admin, Members, and open your profile (or mine - since we're both supposed to have "Grand Poobah" permissions) part of what I see is the following
Brian; thanks for that, and to Duane for his Now I can see the list.

I don't think I need to post a screen shot because... when I look at myself on the group for which I am a co - owner, there is a section for "Role", which (unsurprisingly) says I am an Owner.

However, in shalstest that entry simply isn't there, and neither can I see it in (for example) Brian's equivalent entry.

So perhaps as Duane suggested it is the Set Moderator Privileges checkbox that controls it.

Now I am not going to rush and suggest that Shal changes the details of my ,oderapotr privileges, but if nothing else this suggests? that telling people to "go and look" might be a futile exercise, becuase if the box isn't checked they aren't going to find anything.

Is this something that ought to be raised on beta; there is nowhere a moderator can go to find a definitive list of what they can and cannot do if that box is not checked.

Chris


Re: Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

 

Shal had some of us that didn't/don't have the 'Set Moderator Privileges' checked, as in Chris' case.? I think he may have done that intentionally, though it could have been accidental, so someone didn't kick him out of his own group. ;>)? I mentioned it to him and he changed mine to enable it.? Now I can see the list.

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Re: Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

Brian Vogel
 

Chris,

? ? ? ? ? ? ?When I go to Admin, Members, and open your profile (or mine - since we're both supposed to have "Grand Poobah" permissions) part of what I see is the following (you can't fit the entire screen, it's too long):



If you're not seeing this then you need to post a screen shot of what you are seeing when you open your own profile, as that's the list of permissions you could have (I don't have all of 'em checked, either, but have the ability to check the unchecked ones were I to choose to do so).
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Re: Integration with Google Calendar #calendar

 

I've been in contact with Mark about the errors I reported and provided additional info for him to work on.? I have identified two distinct issues:

  • The ICS file used to sync a calendar contains some Unix based newline characters '\n' in certain places and Outlook 2016 generates an error message for each one when it processes the file. If I replace these with space characters, Outlook loads the file without a problem.
  • The events I thought were missing from a subgroup calendar are in fact present, they are just not showing on the correct day if they are 'all day' events.

This is now back with Mark and I'll update further when I have some news.

Andy


Finding Moderator Permissions (was: Tweaking the message footers for one's group . . .)

 

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 10:29 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Also, if you click on your row from the Members list in shalstest you can see the list of permissions the owner might give you.
FWIW it doesn't matter how many times I try that I cannot find a specific list of those permissions that I do and do not have anywhere on shalstest.

Are you certain that the list you mentioned appears as described? Again FWIW by looking elsewhere I find that I do have the necessary permission to edit the message footer.

Chris


Re: Subscription format change

 

Thanks,

? I'll go with the new format.? 10 full pages of wasted ink to re-print for one small change [sigh].

Dan