On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 06:55 PM, Leeni wrote:

I don't even see skype talking in any of the groups footers that I belong to.

Hence the reason for my earlier comment, "Even though the details of may differ in different groups."? This is a group that focuses on screen reader technology used principally by individuals who are blind, and Skype Talking is a now long defunct app that was meant to make "old Skype" much more accessible.

I expect that the variety that characterizes the owner controlled part of message footers is very large across the groups on Groups.io.
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Em 17/04/2019 17:54, Brian Vogel disse:

if so, how and where?

Brian,
At the risk of being wrong, as I am a complete newbie and am here more to learn than teach, I believe you can change the group footer going to Settings.
Here, I was able to find Settings just going to the "Admin" section.
Now, as I said, I can be completely wrong on this. Just thought I'd throw my two cents trying to help :)

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I don't even see skype talking in any of the groups footers that I belong to.? ? ? ? ?

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Shal,

? ? ? ? ?I am guessing that access to those settings is either "Owner Only" or must be explicitly granted from the Owner to a given moderator, as I cannot find even the group's settings page as a starting point (not under Admin, not from the group home page, nowhere).

? ? ? ? ?I'll ask the group owner about this.? I know there would be no objection and he told me that we'd probably end up having to tweak permissions if we found that I were to be missing any.? Either that, or he can do it.
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On the Main Help Page, under the section entitled,?Specific notices and their usage?is the following:

Removed Member

Sent automatically when a member is removed from the group. The notice marked "active" is the one sent; if no notice is active, none is sent.

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I recently received a request from one of my group members saying, "I do have a minor request. Can you please take Skype Talking out of the?
list footer? It's long dead."

Even though the details of may differ in different groups, I cannot seem to find anything obvious in the Admin panel, nor the help page, with regard to what individual group owners may tweak with regard to the individual message footers.? ?It could be they can do nothing, and this request needs to go through support.

So I'm asking here:? Can we (group owners or moderators) tweak the individual message footer template for our group and, if so, how and where?

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I also looked at a few Wiki pages that have broken photos.? The ones that work have:
data:image/png;base64, (long string of data) in the page source code so it looks like it's embedded in the page.? Looking at the view source within the wiki editor they are all blobs.

The ones that are broken are off-site URLs and have an id="clipImage" attribute.

It appears that what/how it's stored depends on the method used by the person that added the pictures.? Embedding looks like it works best.

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update.

It appears that the errant pix have the URL

/g/GROUP_NAME/draftattachment/2248298/4/PHOTO_NAME

The good ones have a URL of:
/g/GROUP_NAME/wikiimage/2631

and

blob:/a8c3eaea-ed2a-4a80-ad64-0deb9e684cf0?
(NO GROUP NAME!!!??!!)

and

blob:/e80feb48-9137-4747-ac45-2bc69ffa1d69
(NO GROUP NAME!!!??!!)

Has anyone seen these different type locations b4, or can help decipher this?

Has anyone?experienced this?? A few (not all) pix that I placed on a wiki page months ago are gone --? and I'm left with the dreaded broken image icon in page display mode and a sized correctly blank photo spade holder in edit mode.?

Where did they go?
Are pix added to a wiki page stored in some wiki space, or in the photos folders? Or....?
Can one paste in an image? or must it be added thru the diag box?
I noticed that the browse box to locate a local image can also accept a URL to a pic --- is that referenced in each viewing, or is that uploaded to IO and saved (again, where)?

Has anyone experienced this broken/missing pix issue?

Thanks?in advance (as my good buddy Steve S, owner of "Writing at Work" laments in his classes, "Why, too busy to thank someone when s/he helps you?" (-;

Ken

Following my previous suggestion about subscribing to the combined calendar view I've done some testing and found that it does not appear to work properly.

I tried to sync to it using Outlook 2016.? Multiple errors were reported when processing the .ICS file and events from my subgroups were missing, although the events from all main groups I am subscribed to, including GMF, were shown.

I've raised this with support (ticket 8862) and will report back with any updates I receive.

Andy

Ilene,

The point that everyone is missing is graphic type groups, not
discussion groups DO NOT NEED messages visible for new comers to the
group

I don't think that everyone has missed that point. If Mark decides that such groups represent a good fit for Groups.io I don't see any technical barrier to implementing "no archive" choices for the group's Visibility option.

... or members that have gone on special notice.

I'm not sure how that figures into any of this.

See attachment
They can't even be saved correctly.

I'm not sure if that confirms or conflicts with your statement. I see two attached copies of the same image, one of which saves with the (apparently) intended name and the other of which with 0.png. I see the same in both email (Thunderbird) and in Messages.

I probably shouldn't have approved your message. 1) I didn't realize the image files were huge (7.4 MB each), and 2) Don't use GMF for test messages.

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Dan,

Which should I print in my handout, and will both still work?

Either will work.

I wasn't actually certain that [email protected] would still work, but I tested it and it does. The original posting address ([email protected]) is automatically redirected to the new format, but I wasn't certain about all of the email commands (like +subscribe).

I think it would be best to use the new format in your handout.

My reason is that the new (subdomain) format is how they'll see the group email addresses written on the group's web site (specifically the home page), and in messages they receive in email. So it would probably be less confusing for them if you use it consistently from the get-go.

Note that "main" is something you can change, if there's another name for the primary group that would make more sense.

For example, in my PTA group I changed the primary group to "members" because the primary group is open to all PTA unit members; whereas the subgroups are things like board, teachers, administration, and some ad-hoc ones for various volunteer efforts. As a mnemonic, sending a message to [email protected] provides the reminder that such messages are delivered to all of the (participating) unit members.

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Michael,

Actually I think the label "Anonymous" doesn't reflect anything to do
with what I am asking for. The idea of someone (anyone) anonymously
posting anything at all to our group seems like a real bad idea.

You asked that their email address not be transmitted to other members with their post. That's the one common factor in all the various ideas discussed as "anonymous" groups.

And absolutely the moderator must have knowledge of who sent each
message, ...

That's one of the factors discussed.

The minimum proposal would affect only the outbound individual messages, leaving the email address shown in the Pending list, in the View Source, and of course in the Members list. This sounds like exactly what you're asking for.

At the other extreme would be what the Yahoo Groups feature does: hides the email address from everyone, including mods and owners, by email and by web. Members who choose that option (in groups that allow it) are known only by their Yahoo ID.

The only thing I am asking for is that if a member sets up a
subscription option to hide their FROM email address (BUT NOT THEIR
NAME) to an email posted message.

Note that the member's Display Name is a weak identifier: you might have a group with forty people named "Joe".

One solution to that would be using the User Name field from the member's Account Profile. Each user chooses their own User Name, but they are required to be unique site-wide. That's one of the downsides of this idea: the user would have the same identifier in every group subscription. At the moment the User Name field has no purpose, but some future features might make use of it.

The ONLY thing I am trying to do is prevent a member from directly
emailing another member without their permission, and the only easy
way for them to do that is via the FROM address on an email posted
message.

There's also the Directory, but I think it would be fair to interpret making one's profile accessible to other members as permission for members to contact you directly.

And there is the Private reply function, that allows any member to directly contact a member who has posted. As group admin (owner / moderator) you can turn that off by checking the "Remove Other Reply Options" box in the Message Policies section of your group's Settings.

From reading tons of stuff on the subject referred to as "Anonymous"
it is abundantly clear that the term means many different things to
many different people...so I don't think I want to refer to my request
as anything to do with the term.

I only suggest mentioning it because that's the unifying search term. Your concern can be mitigated by saying something like "this proposal does NOT make members fully anonymous" at least once in the topic. That would both clarify your position and provide a hit for searches.

Shal


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There was no means to paste the url into the post. There was no "paste" in the right click window.

I have run into this on various web pages. When there's not a 'paste' button try using ctrl+v . Often I find it almost quicker.

Dano

Actually I think the label "Anonymous" doesn't reflect anything to do with what I am asking for.? The idea of someone (anyone) anonymously posting anything at all to our group seems like a real bad idea.? And absolutely the moderator must have knowledge of who sent each message, and that includes the email address at least via the directory (which only the moderator has access to in my group), and the moderator must have ability to directly email anyone in the group.? The only thing I am asking for is that if a member sets up a subscription option to hide their FROM email address (BUT NOT THEIR NAME) to an email posted message.? One of the ideas suggested (by someone I don't recall who) for this would be to simply substitute [email protected]?for the FROM email address.? The ONLY thing I am trying to do is prevent a member from directly emailing another member without their permission, and the only easy way for them to do that is via the FROM address on an email posted message. We already have this "custom" set up as a rule in our group, but our rule is easily defeated by a bad actor in the group because the FROM email address thing.? ? From reading tons of stuff on the subject referred to as "Anonymous" it is abundantly clear that the term means many different things to many different people...so I don't think I want to refer to my request as anything to do with the term.

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I've often thought about making a user manual for my group, as one day I will hand it over to a new owner to carry on. Our group first started on Y back in 2000, and I 'inherited' it in 2009 without really knowing how to run a group. What I've learned has been more trial by fire, and what ever I could glean from help files, but a comprehensive user manual would have helped immensely.

Don