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Re: pending membership

 

Victoria,

There is no notification in the members Email Delivery history about
the Pending Subscription notice as far as I could see
Those two places only hold the one most recent. Was there anything listed there that would have been newer than the Pending Subscription notice? That may have knocked it aside.

Otherwise, check your list of member notices to be sure that you have marked a Pending Subscription notice as "Active". Otherwise it won't be sent.

Shal


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Re: #issue No mails delivered to any of the group except owner #issue

 

Daniel,

All my different E-Mail Accounts still had my full name as name of
sender. Apparently, groups.io isn't differentiating between e-mail
addresses but between names.
No, that's not right. Whether inbound (posting) or outbound (receiving) the actual email address is all that matters - the display name portion of the address is just for display purposes - it isn't used by software.

And since my name was always the same, I always got 2 mails to my main
address, no matter which one sent the mail.
If you're talking about messages sent to the group's posting address, it wouldn't matter which address sent the message, as long as it is subscribed to the group (or is an alias for an address that is, or if the group allows non-subscriber posts). And all else being equal, each of your subscribed addresses would receive a copy of the message. That's basic list operation.

One thing you can do to help clarify this is look at the footer of the two copies. At the end of the footer is the subscribed email address. That will likely tell the story.

Shal


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Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages

Chris V
 

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Yes this is an email service, but it does not have too make one's email address so public. This is at odds with the web site view.

To view the directory for this group GMF I have to make my profile viewable by the rest of the members.

Having done that I can now list other members. I can email them via a form (cannot see their email addresses)

I can view their profile (cannot see their email address)

When I list what posts they have sent then I can see their posterid (e.g. posterid:967063) So it seems everyone has a unique id

So my question is: why make the web site secure so members cannot see one's email address and then make it very public in any emails you receive?

Chris


On 20/06/2018 20:52, Bill Burns wrote:

I can confirm that Google Groups also has the sender's email address in the From header.

These are all *email* services - what does the OP expect them to do?

Perhaps he should start a Facebook group, or use forum software.


screen shot won't post via group site?

 

so i do a post to my group which is a screen shot of "spanglish for gringos".? will not post via the group site. it never even shows up for moderating. i do it through email....bang.? right there. what's up with that? is it maybe because no text? i just attach the screen shot.


Invite

Janet Panecki
 

I wish to invite a former member of the Composition doll group on yahoo to this one on IO.? How do I do this?

Thank you,
?Janet Panecki


Question about chat history

 

Does anyone know how long the content in the chat room is preserved?? Is it forever and ever like the rest of Groups.io?

Is there a way to delete a chat?

Are there private chat rooms or can anyone in the group join a chat at any time?

Thank you any information about chat.? I saw nothing on the Help page or by searching "chat history" or "chat content."

Carol B.


Re: Is there a full email history?

Jim Higgins
 

Under the ADMIN tab, select ACTIVITY and enter identifying info for the user and you should see info going back to "day one," with day one being the day the group was created or the day it was transfered from elsewhere.

Jim H



Received from Dan Hartford at 6/20/2018 09:28 PM UTC:

Hi,

As a moderator, If I look at a member through the members list and select the "Email Delivery History" tab, is there a way to see more than just the most recent good and bad deliveries? Maybe going back a period of time or a number of entries in each category.

Thanks -- Dan


Re: Png file

 

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:06 pm, Annick Phillips wrote:
One of my group members sends messages to our group and each of her messages has two .png files attached to it. Those files, which are small in size, show up in our "emailed photos" album as a light blue solid square.
If it's what I think it is, it's a reply separator that Windows 10 Mail decided would be preferable instead of a simple <HR> tag. Original posts won't have it, but if the [offending] user replies to any other post, it will. Worse, if anyone subsequently replies to that message without purging the embedded image, the disease will continue to spread.?

My experience is that the file is 148 bytes in size.?It is very annoying, and I've pretty much given up on deleting them manually. My personal preference is that we establish some related group settings to strip embedded graphics entirely. As Duane stated, a remedy of some kind is on the "to do" list.??

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Re: Specific Messages from this group not included in Digests? And delays between Send and seeing the post.

Arno Martens
 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:59 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

They show in my digests from the 13th and 14th.

I got them in the digests too.
Arno


Re: Is there a full email history?

 

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:58 pm, Dan Hartford wrote:
As a moderator, If I look at a member through the members list and select the "Email Delivery History" tab, is there a way to see more than just the most recent good and bad deliveries?
I can't speak to how far back the delivery history goes. I will say that the tab you're talking about is supposed to deal with exactly what it says -- bouncing emails, and issues associated with message delivery, not group moderation.

Instead, find any subscriber's post and click on the More menu. At that point you can view "all posts by this member" and perhaps obtain information that will be more useful for purposes of group moderation.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Png file

 

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:06 pm, Annick Phillips wrote:
She sends her messages from Windows 10 Mail

?That's one of the 'features' of that program.? Fixing it is on the TODO list,

Duane
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Re: Is there a full email history?

 

No.? Since each member can turn delivery off and on at will, there would be no good way to keep up with it.

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Re: Inviting Members

 

It sounds to me like you should use a database.? You could either enter each person's information or have them add their own.? If you add it, you could even hide the entire DB from other members.

Based on your description, I wouldn't send an invitation unless I already had the information needed.? Then it would work fine as is.

Duane
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Png file

 

One of my group members sends messages to our group and each of her messages has two .png files attached to it. Those files, which are small in size, show up in our "emailed photos" album as a light blue solid square. Although they are very small size so they are not taking up a lot of our photo space, they are annoying in the group of emailed photos, so I keep removing them. The member is not actively attaching anything to her messages, and she is not tech savvy, so she has no idea what is adding those files. She sends her messages from Windows 10 Mail. Does anyone have any idea what these are and how she can eliminate them? When I try to open those attached files, each one opens in my Windows photo viewer as just a straight line, one slightly bigger than the other.
Annick


Is there a full email history?

Dan Hartford
 

Hi,

As a moderator, If I look at a member through the members list and select the "Email Delivery History" tab, is there a way to see more than just the most recent good and bad deliveries?? Maybe going back a period of time or a number of entries in each category.??

Thanks -- Dan


Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages

 

On 6/20/2018 2:15 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:16 am, Chris V wrote:
I have just set up a group of some 300 and been hit by this 'feature'
This is MORE than just a spam issue. People sign up to talk to
others of similar interested.
BUT they do not sign up to have everyone know their email address.
Groups.io needs some way to show who sent the message. Since there is no account identifier other than the email address, and given that some subscribers choose not to set a Display Name, I don't see an alternative.
Because of this and the EU GDPR regulations I have had to close the
group I just set up (lasted a couple of days)
Note that Yahoo groups also puts the email address in the From field of the message header. So you won't be able to use that, either. I don't recall what Google Groups does. I hope you find an alternative that meets your needs.
I can confirm that Google Groups also has the sender's email address in the From header.

These are all *email* services - what does the OP expect them to do?

Perhaps he should start a Facebook group, or use forum software.

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Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages

Chris V
 

Bruce

You are correct that Yahoo puts the original email address in the header but certainly in Thunderbird the From field displayed to the user it says the group email address.

The only way I can see the field is by looking in the email source or the extended header to see the original email.

At least that means when you reply Thunderbird does not collect the email address.

Yes not perfect but much better than the email being in your face.

Chris

On 20/06/2018 19:15, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Note that Yahoo groups also puts the email address in the From field of the message header. So you won't be able to use that, either. I don't recall what Google Groups does. I hope you find an alternative that meets your needs.


Re: Inviting Members

 

Some of my groups are unrestricted for Dance and Performance announcements - anyone may join (anonymously if they wish). These groups are virtually all announcements by Moderators, with any Member posts moderated.

Most of my groups are for amateur musicians who get together to play (often in various private homes), share sheet music (stored in the Files section), and for Dances and Performances - a different email List and related website for each group of musicians. These are restricted groups that welcome anybody, but we want to know who you are, so the only qualifications are:
1) Come and Play with us first.
2) Then Join with your Full Name.
Perhaps my cautions are too ¡®Old School¡¯, but it makes members feel comfortable and has worked well for 18 years.

These restricted groups post who's holding a session when (with a phone number to call if you don't know where the host's home is), detailed reports of what has been played, set lists for performances, pictures, other music opportunities, and sometimes the history of a tune, song, composer, musician or band is discussed.

The idea is that we are friendly people with no need to hide behind a false name, and who don¡¯t want to be SPAMMED - unless someone¡¯s email account is hacked, having only known members accomplishes this. Occasionally someone may get off topic (not group or music-related), but a note to them and Moderation curbs that.

I used to not want Full Names to go along with email addresses (to keep them from Yahoo), but with 10 Lists I can¡¯t remember which email address belongs to which member. It seems like an option so many would want to make this more convenient to accomplish, and could simplify Groups.io membership pages. I¡¯d love to have a message (instructions) I can write and a few designatable fill-in fields included in the Invite and Join processes. It would certain help with those people who usually manage to be able to respond to an email, but not initiate one...

Victoria wrote:

I don?t know if I fully understand your request. But if you don?t mind I tell you how I handle this issue (as I understood it) for our group. I am the owner of a group dealing with mostly animal health matters. My moderators and I spend a whole lot of our free time helping pet-owners in very complex and specialized issues. We provide scientific information for them and help them interpret their pet?s medical findings and support them in a broad variety of questions.

From the very beginning (my yahoo group was founded in 2006) we didn?t let anyone in who didn?t give their personal data (which is full name, place, telephone and a very explicate statement about why they wanted to join our group). We did this in oder to make sure we weren?t flooded by people trying to sell pet food and other pet things or grab members? email addresses for other commercial reasons.

So in yahoo times I had a prepared questionnaire that went out to them and had to be sent back to me, where all this information was demanded before they could join. Prospective members also had and have to accept our guidelines by clicking a little box within that questionnaire. The questionnaire contains my email-address and must be sent back to me personally. As soon as I get it back, this person will be admitted in case everything is o.k..

And instead of saving this delicate private information somewhere inside the group?s archives, it stays with me and is saved on my personal server. Not only because Yahoo is known for selling personal data, but also for privacy policy reasons personal data shouldn?t be saved on such a platform as far as I am concerned. In all those 12 years of the group?s existence this has worked perfectly.

In my new group.io it works the same way. Here I use the same questionnaire and send it out via the "pending subscription" function. The real work was designing this questionnaire and reengineering it occasionally.

I hope this can be a little help to you.....


Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages

 

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:16 am, Chris V wrote:
I have just set up a group of some 300 and been hit by this 'feature'
This is MORE than just a spam issue. People sign up to talk to others of similar interested.
BUT they do not sign up to have everyone know their email address.
Groups.io needs some way to show who sent the message. Since there is no account identifier other than the email address, and given that some subscribers choose not to set a Display Name, I don't see an alternative.

Because of this and the EU GDPR regulations I have had to close the group I just set up (lasted a couple of days)
Note that Yahoo groups also puts the email address in the From field of the message header. So you won't be able to use that, either. I don't recall what Google Groups does. I hope you find an alternative that meets your needs.

Regards,
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Re: Files moved but are empty

 

Thanks!!!!
That is what I wanted to know. Ilene?
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Any files that you were only using as member notices, usually sent out at some interval, aren't needed any more once you've set up a current means of delivering them.

Duane
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