Re: top posters in groups
That area was removed by Mark, at the request of many group owners. I don't remember if he plans to make it an option or not.
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I haven't received my own last email yet but realise I omitted to say I was talking about a yahoo group . Sorry if that was confusing!
Louise
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On 3 May 2016, at 08:51, Louise <knitlou@...> wrote:
I'm not sure I understand how this spoofing works, Shal, but doesn't that mean anyone else could spoof the address too and appear to be the list owner of your group?
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I'm not sure I understand how this spoofing works, Shal, but doesn't that mean anyone else could spoof the address too and appear to be the list owner of your group? Probably unlikely to happen but when one of my groups was unlisted someone set up a public unmoderated group with the name of my group in the description. As a result some people who had heard of my group and searched for it by name ended up joining this other group by mistake believing they were accessing the real thing.
This group was abandoned quickly by the well-meaning but apparently internet illiterate founder and taken over by spammers. Someone who was posting there had set up an email that sounded like a genuine Group owner address though they were clearly not a moderator. The only way I eventually managed to get yahoo to close the group was by pointing out the obscene content posted there but not until after the reputation of my group had been affected by those who didn't realise what had been going on.
Louise
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On 3 May 2016, at 08:33, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: J, But that only works for the first message. If the OP responds, then if
Mark wants to respond the email will come from his own address. I
really hate the way this works. So don't do that. That is, if the OP responds and further communication is required, always send it from the (pending) members list - don't simply reply in your email. Or, use your email service to "spoof" the group's +owner address. I've done that with some of my Y!groups. Y!Mail, Gmail, and most other services have a way to do that (as an account set up) so long as you can verify the spoofed address. The spoof isn't as secure as using the actual +owner address from the web site, but it is often a convenient compromise. Shal
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J, But that only works for the first message. If the OP responds, then if
Mark wants to respond the email will come from his own address. I
really hate the way this works. So don't do that. That is, if the OP responds and further communication is required, always send it from the (pending) members list - don't simply reply in your email. Or, use your email service to "spoof" the group's +owner address. I've done that with some of my Y!groups. Y!Mail, Gmail, and most other services have a way to do that (as an account set up) so long as you can verify the spoofed address. The spoof isn't as secure as using the actual +owner address from the web site, but it is often a convenient compromise. Shal
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But that only works for the first message. If the OP responds, then if Mark wants to respond the email will come from his own address. I really hate the way this works. There's no anonymity. It's why our group created the 'moderators' gmail account.
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On May 2, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Terry S wrote:
Mark B.:? If you send the note from your [ groupname]+ [email protected]
address, He won't see your personal address - at least, that's the
way I think it works.? The advantage to this is that if the address
is added to a spam list,? letters to that address won't go to the
group, but would only go to you - and you can write to him again and
tell him again to stop.
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Mark B.:? If you send the note from your [ groupname] [email protected]
address, He won't see your personal address - at least, that's the
way I think it works.? The advantage to this is that if the address
is added to a spam list,? letters to that address won't go to the
group, but would only go to you - and you can write to him again and
tell him again to stop.?
Terry S
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On 5/2/2016 8:01 AM, Mark Bielecki via
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I just received a membership request from an unfamiliar email
address on a restricted group that I set up on Groups.io. ?I am
hesitant to send an email out from my personal email address out
of concern that this is from a spammer?and my personal email address will be added to a
spam list. ?The
group is small and specialized, so it seems odd that I would
receive an email from an address that I don't recognize, and
there is no reason for the general public to want to join this
group, yet I don't want to decline the invitation out of hand
out of concern that a legitimate user may have opened up an
email account with an address I'm unfamiliar with. ?Any
suggestions on how to send an inquiry as to the identity of
the potential subscriber without opening up yet another email
address on Gmail or Yahoo! or some other free email provider
so as to protect my personal email address from harvesting?
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Shal, I misread that. However, if he "sends message," I think the "from" address will be his own address. I think this was recently changed so that it no longer reads as coming from the group owner.
J
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:05 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote: Shal, Did Mark B say the address is showing as NC? I thought it was just a matter of it being someone he's unfamiliar with, in which case sending a confirmation email would not address his issue. ???
J
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> On May 2, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
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> Mark B,
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>> I just received a membership request from an unfamiliar email address on
>> a restricted group that I set up on Groups.io.? I am hesitant to send an
>> email out from my personal email address out of concern that this is
>> from a spammer and my personal email address will be added to a spam
>> list.
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> Groups.io has a feature for just this purpose.
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> Go to the Members page of your group, and select Pending Approval. That should show a list of those who've applied but not yet been approved. Put a check mark on the row of that unfamiliar email address, and use the Actions menu to select "Send Message".
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> That will bring up a message composition window. Change the From field to your group's +owner address instead of your personal address. Write your message, and send it. Use one of the Bcc checkboxes if you wish to receive a copy of your message, one won't be saved on site (that's a wishlist item).
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J, Did Mark B say the address is showing as NC? ... in which case
sending a confirmation email would not address his issue. ??? I wasn't suggesting sending a confirmation email. That, oddly, can only be done from the buttons when you open the pending member's membership page. The two things one can do from the Actions button in the Pending Approval list include "Resend Pending Membership Notice" and "Send Message". I haven't actually tried it with an NC address, but it looks like the message to a pending member works whether or not the pending address has been confirmed. Shal
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Hi. Where¡¯s the top posters heading gone in groups, and how to get it back. Marvin. ?
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I agree. Having a separate, anonymous "moderators" email for our group has been a lifesaver. Even if you use the "send message" facility and change the "from" address to the owner address, if you answer back the OP is going to have your address from then on. All you need is the one extra email address and you can use it from then on. J
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Don't think of it as "yet another" email address, but rather as your ONE
email address for use when you don't want to give out your personal
address.? Use of of the free services that has decent anti-spam tools
(which rules out Yahoo). Gmail is ok, but I have found that I like Fastmail which isn't quite free
(although $10 per YEAR comes pretty close).? They offer a 30 day free
trial, which could meet your immediate need at no cost.
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Any suggestions on how to send an inquiry as to the
identity of the potential subscriber without opening up yet another email
address on Gmail or Yahoo! or some other free email provider so as to protect my
personal email address from harvesting?
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Shal, Did Mark B say the address is showing as NC? I thought it was just a matter of it being someone he's unfamiliar with, in which case sending a confirmation email would not address his issue. ???
J
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On May 2, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Mark B,
I just received a membership request from an unfamiliar email address on
a restricted group that I set up on Groups.io. I am hesitant to send an
email out from my personal email address out of concern that this is
from a spammer and my personal email address will be added to a spam
list. Groups.io has a feature for just this purpose.
Go to the Members page of your group, and select Pending Approval. That should show a list of those who've applied but not yet been approved. Put a check mark on the row of that unfamiliar email address, and use the Actions menu to select "Send Message".
That will bring up a message composition window. Change the From field to your group's +owner address instead of your personal address. Write your message, and send it. Use one of the Bcc checkboxes if you wish to receive a copy of your message, one won't be saved on site (that's a wishlist item).
Shal
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Mark B, I just received a membership request from an unfamiliar email address on
a restricted group that I set up on Groups.io. I am hesitant to send an
email out from my personal email address out of concern that this is
from a spammer and my personal email address will be added to a spam
list. Groups.io has a feature for just this purpose. Go to the Members page of your group, and select Pending Approval. That should show a list of those who've applied but not yet been approved. Put a check mark on the row of that unfamiliar email address, and use the Actions menu to select "Send Message". That will bring up a message composition window. Change the From field to your group's +owner address instead of your personal address. Write your message, and send it. Use one of the Bcc checkboxes if you wish to receive a copy of your message, one won't be saved on site (that's a wishlist item). Shal
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If you already have a yahoo email account wouldn¡¯t you be able to use one of their disposable email addresses. Don¡¯t they still offer those? Just a thought.
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On 2 May 2016, at 13:01, Mark Bielecki via < msb05001@...> wrote:
I just received a membership request from an unfamiliar email address on a restricted group that I set up on . ?I am hesitant to send an email out from my personal email address out of concern that this is from a spammer?and my personal email address will be added to a spam list. ?The group is small and specialized, so it seems odd that I would receive an email from an address that I don't recognize, and there is no reason for the general public to want to join this group, yet I don't want to decline the invitation out of hand out of concern that a legitimate user may have opened up an email account with an address I'm unfamiliar with. ?Any suggestions on how to send an inquiry as to the identity of the potential subscriber without opening up yet another email address on Gmail or Yahoo! or some other free email provider so as to protect my personal email address from harvesting?
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Our group set up a moderators gmail address with no identifying information to use in situations like this. We call it [GroupNameModerators]@. Very easy to set up.
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On May 2, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Mark Bielecki via < msb05001@...> wrote: I just received a membership request from an unfamiliar email address on a restricted group that I set up on . ?I am hesitant to send an email out from my personal email address out of concern that this is from a spammer?and my personal email address will be added to a spam list. ?The group is small and specialized, so it seems odd that I would receive an email from an address that I don't recognize, and there is no reason for the general public to want to join this group, yet I don't want to decline the invitation out of hand out of concern that a legitimate user may have opened up an email account with an address I'm unfamiliar with. ?Any suggestions on how to send an inquiry as to the identity of the potential subscriber without opening up yet another email address on Gmail or Yahoo! or some other free email provider so as to protect my personal email address from harvesting?
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I just received a membership request from an unfamiliar email address on a restricted group that I set up on Groups.io. ?I am hesitant to send an email out from my personal email address out of concern that this is from a spammer?and my personal email address will be added to a spam list. ?The group is small and specialized, so it seems odd that I would receive an email from an address that I don't recognize, and there is no reason for the general public to want to join this group, yet I don't want to decline the invitation out of hand out of concern that a legitimate user may have opened up an email account with an address I'm unfamiliar with. ?Any suggestions on how to send an inquiry as to the identity of the potential subscriber without opening up yet another email address on Gmail or Yahoo! or some other free email provider so as to protect my personal email address from harvesting?
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Re: Link checking app or software for wiki
There are extensions for Firefox for checking links:
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Re: Link checking app or software for wiki
p.s. If yours aren't staying either, I urge you to let Mark know at the support address, [email protected]. So far, Mark has been unable to reproduce the behavior.? J (Shal - to avoid confusion, this is a p.s. to my message "it does stay," which has not posted as of the time I'm writing this p.s.)
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Re: Link checking app or software for wiki
It DOES stay (and is supposed to stay, according to Nark when he added the feature to avoid having to use 'insert link'). It just doesn't stay if the link happens to be the final text on the page.?
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On May 1, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Frances < travel@...> wrote: I just tested your technique.Yes, something with the format of an URL does look like an active link, but it doesn't stay. Use the "insert link" tool in the toolbar. Frances
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Re: Link checking app or software for wiki
I just tested your technique.Yes, something with the format of an URL does look like an active link, but it doesn't stay. Use the "insert link" tool in the toolbar. Frances
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