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Re: Member trying to edit a message

 

On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 12:48 PM, The Review Crew wrote:
The link you provided says group owners CAN'T disable the ability for members to DELETE their own messages. However, this member doesn't see that option in the hamburger menu from her message.
Another thought occurs to me. Could she be logged in under a different email address than the one that posted the message?
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If so, she should log out and log back in with the correct email address. At that point I suspect the edit function might become available, too.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Member trying to edit a message

 

Bruce,

Thanks, that's what I suspected. The link you provided says group owners CAN'T disable the ability for members to DELETE their own messages. However, this member doesn't see that option in the hamburger menu from her message. Is there somewhere else I can direct her?

Thanks,
Kim


On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 12:40?PM Bruce Bowman via <bowman46118=[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 12:34 PM, The Review Crew wrote:
I'm trying to help a group member who wants to edit her own message....
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...however, when she follows these instructions, the only options she sees from the hamburger menu are "report message" and "see source". Is this a function that might have been limited by the owner of the group?
Yes, message editing can be disabled in group settings. ?/newhelpcenter/manual/ownersmanual/groupsettings/settings_msg_policy.htm?
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If necessary, she can delete her original message and then post an edited version. The end result is similar, the only real difference being the date/timestamp.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Member trying to edit a message

 

Probably. And that's what I'll tell the member who asked me. (She was NOT asking about my group, but about another group she's in.)
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Kim
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 12:38?PM Malcolm Austen via <malcolm.austen=[email protected]> wrote:
I'll ask the obvious ... has the group owner ticked the box to "Don't allow members to edit their own messages." ?
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Malcolm.
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Re: Member trying to edit a message

 

On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 12:34 PM, The Review Crew wrote:
I'm trying to help a group member who wants to edit her own message....
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...however, when she follows these instructions, the only options she sees from the hamburger menu are "report message" and "see source". Is this a function that might have been limited by the owner of the group?
Yes, message editing can be disabled in group settings. ?/newhelpcenter/manual/ownersmanual/groupsettings/settings_msg_policy.htm?
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If necessary, she can delete her original message and then post an edited version. The end result is similar, the only real difference being the date/timestamp.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Member trying to edit a message

 

I'll ask the obvious ... has the group owner ticked the box to "Don't allow members to edit their own messages." ?

Malcolm.


On 25 February 2025 17:20:31 (+00:00), The Review Crew via groups.io wrote:

I'm trying to help a group member who wants to edit her own message. From the member manual:
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To edit the content of a message that you posted:

  1. Log in to Groups.io?and?go to the group¡¯s website.
  2. Locate the message you want to edit.
  3. Look for and click the?More??at the lower right of the message.
  4. In the popup menu, select?Edit Message.
  5. On the Edit Message page, make your changes. In addition, it is good practice to include a short note that explains your edits. That note will be included in the updated message that is sent to the group.
    Note:?You cannot change the subject line because it appears in all messages in that topic. Only group owners and moderators with the necessary permissions can change topics¡¯ subject lines.
  6. Click the?Save And Send To Group?button. The edited message is sent to all group members.
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However, when she follows these instructions, the only options she sees from the hamburger menu are "report message" and "see source". Is this a function that might have been limited by the owner of the group? (She's a member of one of my groups, and I've helped her with things before, which is why she contacted me even though she's having the problem in someone else's group.)
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Thanks for any help!
Kim

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Malcolm Austen -- malcolm.austen@...
Member trying to edit a message

 

I'm trying to help a group member who wants to edit her own message. From the member manual:
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To edit the content of a message that you posted:

  1. Log in to Groups.io?and?go to the group¡¯s website.
  2. Locate the message you want to edit.
  3. Look for and click the?More??at the lower right of the message.
  4. In the popup menu, select?Edit Message.
  5. On the Edit Message page, make your changes. In addition, it is good practice to include a short note that explains your edits. That note will be included in the updated message that is sent to the group.
    Note:?You cannot change the subject line because it appears in all messages in that topic. Only group owners and moderators with the necessary permissions can change topics¡¯ subject lines.
  6. Click the?Save And Send To Group?button. The edited message is sent to all group members.
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However, when she follows these instructions, the only options she sees from the hamburger menu are "report message" and "see source". Is this a function that might have been limited by the owner of the group? (She's a member of one of my groups, and I've helped her with things before, which is why she contacted me even though she's having the problem in someone else's group.)
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Thanks for any help!
Kim
Re: Can we have members to use a specific format for posts? #events #howto

 

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 04:46 AM, Emily Rosenberg wrote:
Their formatting is all over the place and drives me crazy.? Some use three colors for their fonts, some forget to put in the date, many fail to put in their full name.? Can anyone visualize a way to do this so that it is easier for me to read as moderator and there is at least a modicum of consistency in the posts?
The first thing you should do is create a Guideline/Rule of the format to be used, possibly including an example.? That will give you something to enforce.
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You could also select the option at Admin > Preferences > Settings - Message Formatting to Normalize HTML Emails.? As noted, that removes all the fonts and colors.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
Re: Can we have members to use a specific format for posts? #events #howto

 

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 05:46 AM, Emily Rosenberg wrote:
My people post a lot of events.
Are you talking about adding things to the group calendar? Or are they just sending an email announcing something?

Their formatting is all over the place and drives me crazy.? Some use three colors for their fonts...
If you check the "Normalize HTML Emails" box in group settings, it will strip out most such nonsense. ?/newhelpcenter/manual/ownersmanual/groupsettings/settings_msg_formatting.htm?
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[We have this turned on here in GMF, for much the same reason.]

...some forget to put in the date, many fail to put in their full name.?
I don't think we can help you with that. The only thing you can do is moderate the group and reject any posts with missing information.
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Hope this helps,
Bruce
Can we have members to use a specific format for posts? #events #howto

 

My people post a lot of events. Their formatting is all over the place and drives me crazy.? Some use three colors for their fonts, some forget to put in the date, many fail to put in their full name.? Can anyone visualize a way to do this so that it is easier for me to read as moderator and there is at least a modicum of consistency in the posts? I don't want to go the route of Google forms because that requires too many steps and would not show up in pending posts.? We do not want to post their information on the group calendar because the group should not be seen as a sponsor. ? TIA. Emily
Re: Welcome message links not working

 

What a terrific support group this is! (especially for a novice)

Thanks to Bruce Bowman, Duane and Malcolm Austen, the links and some other stuff are cleared up.

Leah

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2025 3:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Welcome message links not working

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On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 02:50 PM, Leah Solat wrote:

I¡¯ve been able to change the message prefix, but don¡¯t know how to change the link targets.

Within the editor, place your text cursor somewhere in the link, then click the "Insert/edit link" icon on the menu bar:

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Re: Display Name: moderator cannot edit? #displayname #display-name

 

Hi everyone!
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Thanks for responding to my question.
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I just want to report that I figured it out! I removed the member from the subgroup, added them back, and the display name from the main group cascaded to the subgroup.
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Cheers!
Christine
Re: Calendar Reminders

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 08:23 PM, Anne Goldsmith wrote:
why would it crop up now after all this time?
It's not unusual for Google to make changes while trying to 'improve' things for you, as well as give them access to more of your information.? We may hear more complaints about this if that's what happened.
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Did you click Add Event & Invite Group on some of the events?? I'm assuming here that you added them online.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
Re: Calendar Reminders

 

A lot of us use Gmail so I don¡¯t think that is the issue - plus why would it crop up now after all this time?
It¡¯s just strange. ?
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Anne
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 3:11?PM D R Stinson via <dano=[email protected]> wrote:

Since you use gmail, which is part of Google, perhaps the "leak" is there? Just a thought.
Dano
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Re: Welcome message links not working

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 02:50 PM, Leah Solat wrote:
I¡¯ve been able to change the message prefix, but don¡¯t know how to change the link targets.
Within the editor, place your text cursor somewhere in the link, then click the "Insert/edit link" icon on the menu bar:
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In the resulting dialog box, edit as needed and save.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Welcome message links not working

 

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 01:50 PM, Leah Solat wrote:
don¡¯t know how to change the link targets.
The easiest way is to delete the link, including the spaces before and after.? The when you type in the new one, everything is changed at once.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
Re: Welcome message links not working

 

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Malcolm, thank you. I suspected the problem resulted from the name change.

I¡¯m, obviously, new to this.

I¡¯ve been able to change the message prefix, but don¡¯t know how to change the link targets. I¡¯ll check with someone better versed than I.

Meanwhile, your help is greatly appreciated.

Leah

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Malcolm Austen via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 8:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Welcome message links not working

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Me again Leah. In my haste to get that last message off before I went out, I failed to mention that you still have the message prefix for the group set to [RWOpera].

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On 21 February 2025 09:51:46 (+00:00), Malcolm Austen via groups.io wrote:

OK ... correct me if I am wrong Leah ...?

You created the group as RWOpera and then changed the name to OperaRW, yes?

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You changed the welcome message to say (this is just one line of it, of course):

You can visit your group, start reading messages and posting them here:?/g/OperaRW?

BUT you only changed the visible text, the link is still the original --?/g/RWOpera

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You have to change the link target as well as the visible text. Ditto with the 'editsub' link further down the welcome message.

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Malcolm Austen -- malcolm.austen@...
Re: Calendar Reminders

 

Since you use gmail, which is part of Google, perhaps the "leak" is there? Just a thought.
Dano
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I load all the trainings for my group the month before they happen onto the calendar and set a 2 day Reminder. This has worked just fine for months. Today a some (but not all) of the events appeared that I had just inputted went out to the members of my group - weeks ahead of time. The odd thing was that they weren¡¯t sent by Groups.io (as far as I could see) but by Google wanting to know if we wanted to put these on the Google calendar.

Can Google Hijack Group.io like that?

Anne G
Calendar Reminders

 

I load all the trainings for my group the month before they happen onto the calendar and set a 2 day Reminder. ?This has worked just fine for months. ?Today a some (but not all) of the events appeared that I had just inputted went out to the members of my group - weeks ahead of time. ?
The odd thing was that they weren¡¯t sent by Groups.io (as far as I could see) but by Google wanting to know if we wanted to put these on the Google calendar.?

Can Google Hijack Group.io like that??

Anne G
Re: Welcome message links not working

 

Me again Leah. In my haste to get that last message off before I went out, I failed to mention that you still have the message prefix for the group set to [RWOpera].


On 21 February 2025 09:51:46 (+00:00), Malcolm Austen via groups.io wrote:

OK ... correct me if I am wrong Leah ...?
You created the group as RWOpera and then changed the name to OperaRW, yes?
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You changed the welcome message to say (this is just one line of it, of course):
You can visit your group, start reading messages and posting them here:?/g/OperaRW?
BUT you only changed the visible text, the link is still the original --?/g/RWOpera
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You have to change the link target as well as the visible text. Ditto with the 'editsub' link further down the welcome message.
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Malcolm Austen -- malcolm.austen@...
Re: Welcome message links not working

 

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OK ... correct me if I am wrong Leah ...
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You created the group as RWOpera and then changed the name to OperaRW, yes?
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You changed the welcome message to say (this is just one line of it, of course):
You can visit your group, start reading messages and posting them here:?/g/OperaRW
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BUT you only changed the visible text, the link is still the original --?/g/RWOpera
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You have to change the link target as well as the visible text. Ditto with the 'editsub' link further down the welcome message.
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best, Malcolm.
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On 20 February 2025 23:39:08 (+00:00), Leah Solat via groups.io wrote:
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> Oops, didn¡¯t recognize your name. I¡¯ll reinvite. Sorry
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