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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 06:05 PM, Alex wrote:

I'd like to know if when I added them they each automatically get a groups.io account (which would allow them to go on the site and for example, set themselves to Digest Mode, etc) or if they'd have to create accounts? And if create, short directions to them for doing so?

Offhand, I'm guessing they'd have to proactively create an account because an account requires they have a password, and in doing a direct add we certainly don't assign passwords.

Yes, members of your group have an account with Groups.io
Their email address is their account ID.

They won't have a password. However they don't need one.?They need not go to your group homepage if they don't wish to. Many people participate happily without the need to do so.

If they wish to go to your group homepage, they can click on Email me a link to log in.?
See this GMF wiki page -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/8901
They can set a password or not.

Help exists already -?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts
Especially -?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/logging-in-to-your-account

You might want to create a non-owner/moderator account (i.e. with another email address) and join your group. Then you can see what members see.

Frances
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Many of our members in a group recently migrated from yahoo into a new group I moderate at groups.io never had "profiles" (accounts) at yahoo.
That was a PITA when they wanted to change email addresses, etc.

The members of my new group were all by direct ADDING.
I'd like to know if when I added them they each automatically get a groups.io account (which would allow them to go on the site and for example, set themselves to Digest Mode, etc) or if they'd have to create accounts? And if create, short directions to them for doing so?

Offhand, I'm guessing they'd have to proactively create an account because an account requires they have a password, and in doing a direct add we certainly don't assign passwords.

Alex
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Yes. Mark reported it fixed.
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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 03:33 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

Are “group profiles” system wide or just the group I am in right now? ?

Carla -- Both.

Go to?/account?page=viewprofile?to see (and edit) all the profiles associated with your account.

I presumed the latter, but was then surprised to see private location details from my neighborhood group displayed here in Group Managers Forum too.

Do some aspects of my profile travel to all forums?

Yes. See the "grey box" notice at the top of the page previously cited. However, you also have to share the profile with others before it will be seen.

More info in the Members Manual:??/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/setting-account-preferences-and-viewing-account-information?

Regards,
Bruce

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 03:16 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

In another venue where I post a lot, all messages are HTML and all capable URLS display a “link preview” pulled from the meta data at the target site

Carla -- There is currently no Facebook-like preview feature, although more than once.

Regards,
Bruce

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(excuse me while I append a current query to a similar prior topic)

Are “group profiles” system wide or just the group I am in right now? ?I presumed the latter, but was then surprised to see private location details from my neighborhood group displayed here in Group Managers Forum too.

Do some aspects of my profile travel to all forums?

In another venue where I post a lot, all messages are HTML and all capable URLS display a “link preview” pulled from the meta data at the target site. Sample image below from an Amazon page. It’s lovely ro preview content and context before you click.



My question is whether your platform here (in any mode) is equipped with link previews too? I am guessing not, but thought I should confirm, thanks.

Can you please clarify?

I thought the original post was from an owner of a basic group who wanted to add a non-group member to a subgroup without the invitation process.?

Does this workaround only apply to premium groups where direct add is available?

The Help says:

Once someone is a member of the parent group, they can subscribe directly to the subgroup (if permitted), they can be added directly to the subgroup, or they can ask to join the subgroup (if it is restricted).

Frances

PS I wish those seeking solutions would give a bit more detail about their group status! Basic, basic legacy enabled, premium, enterprise.



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I suspect the 'time before epoch' will equal your local offset from UTC.
Seen that happen in Unix systems for decades.

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:49 AM, Peter Cook wrote:

Don, I reported it here:??

And 90 minutes later, it seems to have been fixed.

Thanks,
Bruce

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:15 AM, Terry Slattery wrote:

Identifying members whose mailbox is disabled or otherwise inactive is entirely a manual process.

Terry -- I don't see it that way. Bouncing members can be easily found by selecting Bouncing from the blue pull-down menu at upper left.

Of course, to determine if an account is actually bouncing, you first have to send it something.

With per-member pricing, GIO will need to create easy-to-use mechanisms to police membership lists for various types of failures and allow moderators/owners to purge those defunct members.

Depends on what you mean by a "failure." Depending on the group's purpose, someone who is lurking without making any contribution to the group could be legitimately culled as deadwood. A statistical summary of group activity by member ("posts in the past 180 days" or something of that nature) would be welcome addition to the Member List. Perhaps other mechanisms could be made available.

But I'm just a group owner, like yourself. Any actual suggestion should be taken to Mark.?

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:43 AM, Don Grass wrote:

This has to be a bug to report to Support.

Don, I reported it here:??

Pete

I'm an idiot.

Epoch being 01/01/1970 00:00:00 GMT0 converts into a wall clock time & date between 5 and 8 hours earlier on 12/31/1969 within the lower 48, depending where you are at.

-Cornelius

Cornelius Keck wrote:

Peter,

All of our album photos have the same Taken date of 12/31/1969 as yours. This has to be a bug to report to Support.

Don

That's right before Unix epoch time (1/1/1970, 00:00:00), question is how much, is it just one second so that the pictures' timestamp is 0xffffffff, or is it 12/31/1969 23:00:00? If you download an image, does the image file's EXIF header show that timestamp?

Either way, this sounds like a bona fide bug.

Peter Cook wrote:

Every photo in every album in my groups (including some taken yesterday) have a "Taken" date of 12/31/1969. I just posted this on beta.

Pete

Bruce,
Identifying members whose mailbox is disabled or otherwise inactive is entirely a manual process. With per-member pricing, GIO will need to create easy-to-use mechanisms to police membership lists for various types of failures and allow moderators/owners to purge those defunct members.
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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Karin Beil wrote:

Can I add him directly to a subgroup without requiring an invite to the main group being sent?

Karin -- You CAN send someone an invitation to a subgroup. Accepting the invitation will add that person to both the subgroup and the main group.

My Premium group does not have any subgroups, so I cannot test the scenario that Shal outlined. In any event, the person will end up a member of the main group, too. There is no way around that.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Karin,

Can I add him directly to a subgroup without requiring an invite to
the main group being sent?

For a single person you can go to the Subgroups page in your /primary/ groups Admin pages, find or search for him in that list, then use the checkboxes to assign which subgroup(s) you want him to be in.

For multiple addresses you can use Direct Add from the /primary/ group: it will have checkboxes for what subgroup(s) to add the list of addresses to. This works fine even if one or more is already a member of the primary group - it just gives you a harmless notification that they were already a member of the Primary group.

Shal


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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 06:33 PM, Frances wrote:

the user must login to the group in order to complete the task of choosing the right hashtags

Unless they resend it via email with a correct tag.? That would leave the original in the Draft queue, but those are deleted after 2 weeks.

Duane
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