On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 06:55 PM, Christopher W. wrote:

(may need a premium group)

A Premium group is required to use the API for anything according to the Pricing page.

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On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 06:20 PM, Jim Feeley wrote:

I presume they're sending these emails to the right email addresses

Unless they copy and paste, they may not be.? YG used a - after the group name, GIO uses a +, so they may be typing the wrong thing.

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On 2019-12-19 at 8:17:02 AM, <mcbadger@...> wrote:

My question is for those group owners who have a similar situation, how
do you manage the Group.io members against a third party membership
database? It looks like a manual process, but are there any tips?

If you can write some code to glue the two together, or know someone who can
:-), the groups.io API has functions for managing list membership, removing
members from a group [1], sending invitations [2], and directly adding
members (may need a premium group) [3].


[1]: /api#remove_member
[2]: /api#send_invites
[3]: /api#direct_add

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On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:45 PM, Becky Lavash wrote:

I didn't see a means to report this bug to AOL but I suspect that they would know this.

I wouldn't count on it.? AOL is now part of Verizon, the folks that brought us the YG "improvements".

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On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:15 PM, Terry Tegnazian wrote:

I’d like to set the number of items per page for the group as a whole

Actually, all the items are on one long list.? It's what the member has set for Items Per Page that determines how many show up at once.? You'll need to find a way to explain to them how to change their setting.? It's part of their Account, so you can't do it for them.? (Infinite Scroll isn't a good choice for something like this because you'd have to scroll all the way to the bottom before you could search.)

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On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 07:40 PM, Keith Pettway wrote:

Today I got a message that a post needed to be approved. When I went to approve, all the choices were blocked (the little red circle with the slash through it appeared in each block. I have signed out and back in several times, but still the same problem. I have used this function several times in the past with no problems??

First, check the footers of an email from your group to double-check your email address.
Second, do you have other owners or moderators with the ability to set moderator privileges and remove members.
See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Promotion%2C-Status-or-Permissions-Change-to-Moderator-or-Owner

Since you got the email saying that a message needs moderating, I assume that there isn't a problem with your status.
Of course, in the short term, if the message is okay, you can just reply to the message and it approves it.?
See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-Moderation

Frances

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Today I got a message that a post needed to be approved. When I went to approve, all the choices were blocked (the little red circle with the slash through it appeared in each block. I have signed out and back in several times, but still the same problem. I have used this function several times in the past with no problems??

Thanks!

Keith

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 07:20 PM, Jim Feeley wrote:

So I moved an email list with 4500 subscribers from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io.

To help ease the transition, I've sent a couple posts that basically expand on the info in the Automated help file, including info on how set subscriptions to a digest mode.

Several dozen subscribers have set their subscriptions to a digest mode without trouble. But some...like perhaps 15-20 (I'm not counting) have contacted me and said they sent email notices to get a digest, but that they're still getting every single message. I presume they're sending these emails to the right email addresses since those are contained in the posts I sent. So those are the basics. To the point:

Have others have trouble with subscribers trying to receive digests but still ending up getting single posts?

If so, is there anything I can do to make sure those people do get digests? Hopefully without my having to make each change myself?

So you say that members sent email notices. Did they send an empty email from their "proper" email address to?
[email protected]

I suggest Full Digest rather than plain text because I think they will have trouble participating in discussion from the plain text digest.
You can see all email commands here -?/static/help#what-are-the-available-email-commands

Nothing required in the subject line or in the body of the email.?This should do it.
Just an empty email.

You can also double-check the Activity in Admin to see what has happened. You can also check the members' email delivery history from Admin, Members.

Just an FYI - this won't help your current subscribers, but you can create a default subscription setting for new members of your group. They can change it if they prefer.

Frances

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So I moved an email list with 4500 subscribers from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io.

To help ease the transition, I've sent a couple posts that basically expand on the info in the Automated help file, including info on how set subscriptions to a digest mode.

Several dozen subscribers have set their subscriptions to a digest mode without trouble. But some...like perhaps 15-20 (I'm not counting) have contacted me and said they sent email notices to get a digest, but that they're still getting every single message. I presume they're sending these emails to the right email addresses since those are contained in the posts I sent. So those are the basics. To the point:

Have others have trouble with subscribers trying to receive digests but still ending up getting single posts?

If so, is there anything I can do to make sure those people do get digests? Hopefully without my having to make each change myself?


Thanks!

Jim

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Bruce,

I figured it out that I could edit out the photos by going through the message edit option.? What deleted the entire message was was trying to directly delete the photo from the photo album.

Today I learned of a bug in the AOL mail app for iOS devices. Perhaps others know of this but I didn't see it in the Wiki.

HTML doesn't render correctly in the address line so that all replies to the group fail. This applies to all types of replies; group, or private. We found we could, with some effort, delete the addressee and manually re-enter it and successfully send the message. We only knew the address for a group reply and weren't sure for a Private reply so we didn't test that.

I didn't see a means to report this bug to AOL but I suspect that they would know this.

When the app is installed on an iOS device, Safari automatically launches the app when the user tries to use the website version of AOL mail.?

Becky Lavash

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On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:31 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

I would like to delete the excess images, but that deletes the reply post also. (unless I leave 1 photo behind)

Dale -- My experience does not bear out this assertion.?

If you click on the "Message" button under a photo in the Emailed Photos folder, it will bring up the underlying post. If you select Edit Message from the More menu, it will switch to edit mode. Tick the Delete checkboxes under any images you don't want, and save. Note that this will automatically send a notification to the OP that his post has been edited.

Or alternatively, just delete any undesirable images directly from the Emailed Photos folder. This approach will NOT send a notification.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Deleting%20attachments,%20files%20and%20photos

I don't normally reply from the website and I looked at the reply options there and I didn't see an easy way to stop the quoted text from being included unless it is by the show/hide quoted text.

By default, using the web interface, nothing is carried forward into your reply. You have to proactively click the "quote whole post" button (far left icon on the menu bar) to get it to do that.?"Show/hide quoted text" is for viewing purposes only and has no bearing on what ultimately appears in a reply.

If the default is to hide and you need to affirmatively click "show" to make this problem happen, my users must be doing this and getting them to stop should be the solution.?

More likely, many of your user's email clients "quote whole post" as a default. And yes, getting them to stop is more than a little problematical. My iPhone users tell me that it is simply not possible to avoid it, using Apple Mail. I am skeptical of that, but as long as they believe it, what can you do?

Bruce

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I would like to delete the excess images, but that deletes the reply post also. (unless I leave 1 photo behind)? I don't normally reply from the website and I looked at the reply options there and I didn't see an easy way to stop the quoted text from being included unless it is by the show/hide quoted text.?? If the default is to hide and you need to affirmatively click "show" to make this problem happen, my users must be doing this and getting them to stop should be the solution.?

If that is the way to keep this from happening, that can be a tedious exercise for messages in long posts though.

Dale

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Thank you.? Actually, that's the group I thought I had joined.? Your help has been much appreciated!? (I will be unsubscribing from groups.io.)

Deborah

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 04:12 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

When we get replies to messages in which photos were embedded, we get duplicate postings in the "Emailed Photos" folder.? The photos from the response come through email as attachments, though the original poster embedded them.?

Yep.

? I have noted it with posts from those who post from the group website.

I don't think that matters. If whoever replies fails to strip the image, the disease spreads.

Is there a way to stop this duplication, perhaps through the "reposting" settings?

No, although it gets mentioned in beta in a regular basis. Most recently . You can go there and give the notion a bump if you want.

Bruce

I have noted this problem with one of my groups.?? When we get replies to messages in which photos were embedded, we get duplicate postings in the "Emailed Photos" folder.? The photos from the response come through email as attachments, though the original poster embedded them.?? I have noted it with posts from those who post from the group website.?? Is there a way to stop this duplication, perhaps through the "reposting" settings?

Dale Smith

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 03:05 PM, Mike Beaty wrote:

I want to import 10K+ messages, and would prefer to only do this once.

Mike -- I suggest you create a subgroup and practice with that until you get things working the way you want.

Subgroups are easily deleted, thousands of messages are not.

Bruce

I too am using ioimport.pl and am having some success. I understand that there is a newly-released version 5, and I will download it and use it.

I have several questions:
1. I see the needchange.txt file. Of ~2500 subscribers, I have ~270 entries in this file. Do I need to resolve all issues in this file for the program to succeed? What happens if I don't?
2. I got an error when I tried to use the map.txt file. I tried with both a comma and a space.

I want to import 10K+ messages, and would prefer to only do this once. :-)

Thanks very much to Lena for creating and assisting with this program!

Mike

I need to put an inline image into an email sent out to the groups. When I try, it's put in as an attachment and not as part of the message.

I know when my SquareSpace site sends an email via RSS, the image is included in line.

I've tried doing it via the webpage, and get a JSON unexpected EOF error. I've tried JPG, PNG, and PDF.