On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 07:10 PM, Bonnie Hunter wrote:

I received the letter stating that they had approved invite to my group.

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I bet the email you got says they received your invitation.? That just means that they're aware of it and you don't need to send another.? They won't accept it until they're ready to add you to the list of transfers.? Check the status page of your transfer.

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Larry . . .

On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 21:41:18 -0400, "Larry" <n8lp@...>
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I clearly need to have a way to parse these and reformat the output to match groups.io. I was able to extract the email address using a similar technique, but it was far simpler, and I don't know exactly what groups.io needs. Is there a sample at groups.io of what the upload file should look like to import messages.

I'm not sure you're going to be able to do that.

Some have used PG Offline to archive their group then export the
messages to many HTML files, then paste them into one continuous big
PDG file and upload that to the files section.

There is the $220 transfer you can pay for if you need them in the
messages section instead of in a large PDF file. It is probably set up
this way so you have to depend on the GIO transfer service, which is
now not only being charged for, but that charge was doubled overnight
sometime last week with almost no notice.

Right now I don't know of an existing method to put the messages in
the new group from the old.

Donald


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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 09:59 PM, Larry wrote:

I clearly need to have a way to parse these and reformat the output to match groups.io. I was able to extract the email address using a similar technique, but it was far simpler, and I don't know exactly what groups.io needs. Is there a sample at groups.io of what the upload file should look like to import messages.

Larry -- The groups.io interface provides no function that will allow you to import these messages to your group's message archive, all indexed, searchable and attributable to the original posters. Most folks doing a "manual" transfer have been printing old messages to a PDF or converting it to HTML and subsequently uploading the archive to the group's files area. Hopefully others can provide additional options.

Bruce?

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I have now migrated all my member's emails to the new group and invited them to join. That's all working fine. I also uploaded my photos and files. My final hurdle is getting the messages (conversations) into my groups.io group.

There are over 3000 posts, and the download from Yahoo consists of two large mbox format files, where all the messages, with addresses, headers, etc. are all sequentially displayed with about 1500 messages in each single mbox message.

I clearly need to have a way to parse these and reformat the output to match groups.io. I was able to extract the email address using a similar technique, but it was far simpler, and I don't know exactly what groups.io needs. Is there a sample at groups.io of what the upload file should look like to import messages.

Larry

Derek, it DOES help! ?And, my apology for not including you in the thanks. ?I realized it right after hitting the Send. ?I can see that you understand the issue with which I was dealing and unwilling to simply do a quick fix. ?It was exactly my confusion over the Special Notice and Announcements. ?And, as you guessed, much of it was over confusing Groups.io and several other platforms where I have moderated.

Thanks much,
Gene

Afternoon All,

Is there any functionality to edit the date value on messages in the archive. To correct corrupted values (in my case that came across from Yahoo - and probably originally caused by date format errors from the original sender at the time)?

Example below - the 1997 messages (pre-Yahoo Groups even existing) were actually emailed in 2003 - and were showing like this at Yahoo as well:


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Many TIA,

John

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 06:10 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Hope this helps,

Not really. I know how to get the different member lists.

Re-read what i wrote: "BUT... that list only showed 5 members: The member I just approved, the first member that signed up with the group before the transfer which was in February, 2018, myself and two moderators. So I followed the following sequence: 'Your Groups>(my group)>Admin>Members and the list shows the 978 members I expected to see, but not the new member I just approved."

Here it is 7 hours later and the behavior is still the same. The ONLY way I can see the new member is to click on the "View Pending Member" link in the email. When I do that, it appears the new member is now approved. Clicking on that member's page and either Save or Cancel, and I get back to the member list... but with only 5 members, as above. The only way I see the full membership list is to go to my group's home page then back to the membership list. Everybody is there EXCEPT the new member.?

And there are no entries in the moderator activity log since a different new member was approved 4 days ago. And no entries in the All activity log that the person even applied. It's like the approval I earlier today didn't happen.?

Any more ideas?

Dave

Finally got the green button!? On my way at last.

I just reinstated using Amazon SES for email sending. This is normally a much better way of sending emails as they handle all the problems with bouncing emails and negative reputation. With thousands of members, you always get someone who complains to their ISP despite double opt-in, when they could simply unsubscribe.

Anyway, new problem as groups.io is showing the incoming email address like this:

The Rife Forum <0102016e2e76af3b-01d11867-1f83-492b-8275-2d55afc19059-000000@...>

It should look like this:?The Rife Forum <admin@...>

The relevant part of the email header looks like this:

To: Rifeforum via Email Integration <[email protected]>
From: "The Rife Forum" <admin@...>
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
Message-ID: <0102016e2e76af3b-01d11867-1f83-492b-8275-2d55afc19059-000000@...>

Can this be fixed? It would be better not to show the email address than this.
Under settings, I do have the "Hide Email Addresses In Archives" option set to "Mask" but it is being shown, anyway.

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You call them tabs- I only see buttons. Big difference.

OP- Go to Admin/? Invites, select the second button Sent Invitations, which displays the result of all- Sent- Accepted- Bounced/ Rejected etc.

Lets not over complicate an interface that has to be sued by thousands of admins, both technical and non-technical.
dave?

Hello

My links transferred over from yahoo?and are placed in the Database section. Is this the best option? Playing with it. It?looks ok but takes some?getting used to.

I have seen some on here mention that?wiki is the best option for links. I cant seem to get that figured out. Does a step by step (with screen shots) exist for setting up links on Wiki?

Thanks all

kl

Harvey,

*From:*Nancy ... via Groups.Io <nancy...@...

As Duane said, this form is used when the sending service (me.com in this case) demands that email lists do this.

Occasionally, members report emails arriving out of order -- not
all the time, but occasionally. Also we've seen occasions where
emails took hours to arrive.

Some email services use Greylisting as an anti-spam measure. They really shouldn't apply that technique against an email list once they've seen messages from it before.


The problem with this technique is that it rejects the message the first time it is sent, and relies on Groups.io's server to re-try. That introduces an arbitrary delay in the receipt of that message.

You can also check the Email Delivery History tab of the affected member's page in the Members list to see if there are any clues there about message delivery to that member.

Shal


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Peter,

Strangely, the emails are not arriving on groups.io from the forum.

As Duane said, check the group's Activity log to see if there's any indication of those messages being received and rejected. If there is no log entry at all I think that could only mean that the email was sent to the wrong address.

I have not received a bounced email, either.

That was the other thing I would have suggested checking, but I wasn't sure if vBulletin would give a means of viewing rejections.

Alternatives:

Check the "Allow Non Subscribers to Post" box in the Message Policies section of your group settings. But that would hold each of these messages your group's Pending folder.

Or, as Bob suggested, use an email integration - that's actually the designed means to accomplish what you're trying to do.

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 04:22 PM, kruffing wrote:

I'm a data buff, when things quiet down I hope the GIO staff
publish a cool table or graph about the volume of transfers
they midwifed in October-December 2019.

Yeah, I'd enjoy seeing something like that as well. Maybe
include other info, such as number of members, messages, files,
etc, but that info may not be available. Might be a good question
for support in January. After doing a bit of snooping on the site,
I know that at least 2250 groups have been transferred, but not
how many of those were recent.

Duane

I would be interested in knowing the numbers as well, Duane. I recall transferring a couple groups during early 2017 when things were falling apart at Y! We seemed to have a big crush of groups moving then, but that was nothing like this last few months.

Dano

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 03:49 PM, Frank wrote:

Could you explain what is the reason why does not work in Chrome?

Based on some of his comments, I believe Mark, the site owner, does a lot of his work with Chrome on a Mac.? I'd be very surprised if there were a serious problem with it (unless Chrome has made a recent change that broke something.)

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Erika . . .

On Sat, 02 Nov 2019 15:26:32 -0700, "Erika Baker"
<erika.baker@...> wrote:

The only button still available on the transfer screen is "expediate transfer for $200". If I click that, it asks if I'm sure that I want to pay.

But I have already paid and I have payment confirmation.

Is by transfer being expediated or not now?

If you mean that you already paid the $220, you only paid for the
transfer, not to expedite it by moving you ahead of those who didn't
pay the ADDITIONAL $200 expediting fee. If you paid the $220 PL:US the
additional $200, then you need to make sure you're getting the
expedited transfer. However, I think you were referring to having paid
the $220 transfer fee, not the expediting fee of an additional $200.
To do both costs you $420.

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They have gone out!? Somewhere under six hours. No complaints on my end!

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 06:27 PM, Erika Baker wrote:

The only button still available on the transfer screen is "expediate transfer for $200". If I click that, it asks if I'm sure that I want to pay.

But I have already paid and I have payment confirmation.

Is by transfer being expediated or not now?

Erika -- Your transfer is proceeding, but is not being expedited.

You have probably seen many people here in GMF talk about how there are 800 or 900 groups ahead of them in the transfer queue. Waiting for every one them to be processed before groups.io gets around to importing your group could take a month or more.

If you want to jump to the head of the line, it will cost you another $200. That's what the button is for.

Regards,
Bruce