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Bruce,

Folks -- Appended below please find detailed instructions on how to conduct a transfer using the Easy Group Transfer method.

See also the new FAQ at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-YahooGroups
To check status of an ongoing transfer:??/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948

Please note that the way you select an existing transfer for further processing has changed. It used to be a pull-down menu, it is now a list of links.

I will be re-posting this message periodically for the benefit of all the new people that continue to flood in. My apologies for the inevitable dupes in your email inbox.

Regards,
Bruce

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Here is the process. It is not fully automated and will take several days.?Do not do anything out of order.

The following instructions are for a full-width desktop/laptop display. This can all be done on mobile too, but it's a lot easier if you don't.

1.1 Create your groups.io group and configure it according to your needs. Help with group settings can be found here:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation?(Note: Each new group must be reviewed to confirm that it meets the?Groups.io Terms of Service. This alone could take up to a day.)
1.2 To use the Easy Group Transfer,?you must upgrade the group to the?Premium Yearly?plan.?You can downgrade to the Basic plan later (i.e.: a year from now), if you want.
To do so, select Admin>Upgrade from the left-side menu bar and click on the blue "View/Change Plan" button. Select "Premium Yearly" (one-time cost of?$220) and make your payment.?
(You have now completed Step 1 of the instructions)

2.1 Return to the bookmarked page (/yahootransfer). Click on the big green button at the bottom that says "Set Up New Transfer."
2.2 Enter the name of your Yahoo group and the name of your groups.io group in their respective boxes. The groups.io group is conveniently selected from a pick-list of those groups that you own. Do NOT enter any domain information (i.e.:?leave off[email protected] or @yahoogroups.co.uk),?just the group name.
2.3 Click the big green "Start Group Transfer Process" button at the bottom of the page.?
(You have now completed Step 2 of the instructions)

3.1 Go to your YAHOO GROUP (not your groups.io group) and log in. Send a membership invitation to "[email protected]". If you've never done this before, instructions can be found at??
3.2 Return to the bookmarked page?(/yahootransfer) once again. Select the group you are transferring from the Existing Transfers at bottom right (click on its link). A new page will come up, with?a status box at the top. If all is well, it?should?say: "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite."?If it?doesn't?say that, the invitation did not go through. Go back to Step 3.1 above and try again.?
(You have now completed Step 3 of the instructions)

4.1 BE PATIENT. Accepting the invitation is often?the longest step in the process, and requires human intervention (solving a CAPTCHA).?
4.2 BE EVEN MORE PATIENT.?Do?not?send additional invitations in an attempt to hurry things up.
4.3 You will eventually?receive an email from groups.io stating?that the Yahoo group invitation has been accepted, and providing you with further instructions.?Continue waiting until you receive this email.
(You have now completed Step 4 of the instructions)

5.1 Return to your YAHOO GROUP and log in. Find the "[email protected]" member record (sorting by join date is the easiest way) and promote it to a Moderator. Instructions for this can be found at?.
5.2 Return to the groups.io page that you bookmarked in #0.4 above one more time. Once again, go to the "Existing Transfers" at bottom right and select the group you're ready to transfer. On the resulting page, click the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button.?
(You have now completed Step 5 of the instructions)

6.1 BE PATIENT AGAIN. The ability to actually do the transfer depends on how well Yahoo's servers are operating. We all know what that means, right??(If you want to check status, see?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948).
6.2 You may notice some activity in your new groups.io group, which probably reflects partial completion of the process.?Do not panic.?This is what you wanted to happen!
6.3 When the transfer is done, you will receive an email from groups.io summarizing what it was able to transfer. It will also list whatever things it was?NOT?able to transfer.?Until this email is received, you aren't done yet.
6.4 Rejoice.

Most of us have "been there" with this process before and it all sounds easy in hindsight. Ironically, the same thing that's causing most people to abandon Y!G (server downtime) is exactly the same thing most likely to get in the way of completing the transfer process.?The best time to initiate a transfer is when Yahoo is performing well.?If you procrastinate until things are crashing and burning, delays, incomplete transfers, and other such frustrations can be expected.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Duane,

The home page says 1,398 messages and, on the Messages page, upper right, it says 1 - 20 of 1.398.

Back at AdcraftOwnersYahoo, there are 4,712.

Thanks,
Gene (Owner)

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 01:36 PM, David Tuma wrote:

I can't see how to change it on my webpage message template.

By the above do you mean Groups.io's composition window? (For messages, wiki pages and the like.)

If so, then have a look at the composition window; do you have one line or two lines of Toolbar available? If just one line then click on the "hamburger" at the right hand end of the line; (Tooltip: Show Advanced Toolbar) This will bring up a second line of tools which include font size and a limited selection of fonts.

Chris

I have selected Force HTML Emails. ?When I get an email the group footer is in the Plain Text format instead of the HTML Format. ?What needs to be done to get HTML Emails - I'm assuming they are not HTML since the ?footer is Plain Text.
Thank you.
David

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 03:03 PM, Don Grass wrote:

Is this an example of Groups.io’s antivirus protection?

You haven't provided quite enough information to draw that conclusion.

Is your group set up to allow non - members to post? If yes then your conclusion might be correct.

If no then it is simply what happens when a non - member tries to post.

Chris

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 09:50 PM, Steve Bass wrote:

The problem: I started with $20 premium monthly and charged $20 on 10/27. I upgraded to Premium yearly today, but today's upgrade to yearly wasn't charged.

Steve -- You first need to complete the upgrade to Premium Yearly, if you have not already done so.?

As you advised, I restarted the transfer process by clicking the Set Up a New Transfer and added the YG name and GIO name from the pull down.

Now I'm disconcerted. Have you set up two separate transfers for the same group? In message #21439, I stated that you seemed to have completed Step 1. I don't recall making any suggestion that you to repeat those steps.

Clicking "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" green button only refreshes the page.

That stands to reason, if your group is not yet on the proper payment plan.

1. YG has a [email protected] member with moderator rights.

2. The pink area on Yahoo Group Transfer Setup says, "We have accepted the invite to your group. If you have not already, make [email protected] a moderator of your group. Once you have done that, tell us when you are ready to transfer your group."

3. I again tried "Set Up A New Transfer" and this time the pink box said, "Set up and start the transfer process below. To transfer a group, your Groups.io group must be upgraded to the Premium Yearly option." The Plans and Pricing page set me on the static pricing page that asks me to start a group.

Okay, I'm going to tell you to do several things and we will both cross our fingers.?

1. In GIO, go to your group. Select Admin>Billing from the left-side menu bar, click on the blue "View/Change Plan button," and check what payment plan you are on ("Current Plan").
2. If it is anything but Premium Yearly, select Premium Yearly (click the Upgrade button on that row). Complete your payment ($220).?
3. Go to your Yahoo Group. Double-check that [email protected]?is present, and is a Moderator (green crown).?
4. Go to the transfer page at?/yahootransfer
5. From the Existing Transfers list at bottom right, select the group transfer that you already have underway*
6. On the resulting page, double-check the status box at top, ensuring that it says what you said it said above ("We have accepted the invite...").
7. IF EVERYTHING CHECKS OUT SO FAR, click the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button. If something doesn't check out, come back here and report back on your findings.

*Until very recently, this used to be a pull-down menu...but I see that Mark has made some changes here.

If your GIO group is on the Premium Yearly plan, and if?GIO has accepted your invitation, and if you already have the transfer agent as a Moderator of your Yahoo group, and if the status box at the top of the page says what you said it said, the transfer should proceed. The page should refresh and the status will change to reflect this.

But it might not. Frankly, Steve, you've done some things out of order, and haphazard actions have a way of causing gridlock. If it doesn't refresh and tell you things are okay, you'd probably be ahead of the game to just click on the red "delete transfer" button and start over. Also go back to your Yahoo Group and delete the transfer agent, in preparation for sending a new invitation. You will continue to be unable to set up a new transfer for this group until the old one is cleaned up.

At that point you can resume at step 0.4 in the detailed instructions I provided:??/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19673

Good luck,
Bruce

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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:48 AM, Susan Kistler wrote:

Does io groups allow music?

That depends. Uploading copyrighted material is a good way to get your group deleted.

See?/static/tos, specifically the section titled "User Content Transmitted Through Service."

If so is there any limitations, size, kind, etc.

You may encounter timeout errors when attempting to upload large files. And of course, your group is limited in storage capacity depending on your payment plan (see /static/pricing).

Generally speaking, groups.io is designed for collaboration, not for cloud storage.

Regards,
Bruce

Steph,

Doug told you specifically about Member Notices.
Here's a wiki page about other settings - including a link to a wiki help page about using a Pending Subscription notice to vet potential members.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

Frances

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HELLO - I have searched and cannot find any help with music. Does io groups allow music? If so is there any limitations, size, kind, etc. Thank you very much

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 09:11 PM, Gene (Owner) wrote:

it appears that only 1,398 of 4,700 messages were transferred from Adcraftowners at Yahoo.?

Gene -- What is reported on the group home page ("Group Information") is the number of topics. The number of individual messages within those topics can reasonably be expected to be quite a bit higher.

Look at the message number of the most recent message in the group. If you find that to be more to your liking, you probably just need to wait for the indexing to catch up.

Bruce

I see that the email accounts in message history are masked even for PUBLIC groups on Groups.IO which is good.?? However,? if we export/import in past Yahoo message history and enlist the help of the Groups.IO transfer team will the email accounts be similarly masked in this past history?? Does this depend on whether the group is public or private?? Keep in mind that many of the persons involved in the past history at Yahoo may not be making the transfer to Groups.IO (this may or may not be relevant).??

Also,? should the past message history be loaded in before the group starts current posting or could we start the group and then get the old history loaded?? If you're primary index is date then this should not matter, hopefully it doesn't.? I don't think our members want to wait around in Yahoo, with it's ups and downs, until the old history gets loaded.? You must have quite a backlog at this point..

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 05:31 AM, Bill wrote:

Can an option be included that allows the mass deletion of photos in this folder.

As Chris mentioned, this has come up several times on the group.? Mark has asked that suggestions not be posted until the great migration is closer to completion.

Duane
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On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 08:11 PM, Gene (Owner) wrote:

I received a “Transfer Complete” message two days but now, it appears that only 1,398 of 4,700 messages were transferred

What are you basing this on?? Mark has said that the indexing system is lagging, sometimes up to 24 hours, so what's reported on the group home page isn't necessarily right.? It should be much better today if that's what it was.

?Duane
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 07:52 AM, isis feral wrote:

This is the email of the test message, as CC'd to me:

As Shal inferred, a screenshot of what it looks like in the groups Messages section online would add be useful.

Duane
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 03:05 AM, reachingout wrote:

Several weeks ago a new member applied and didn't respond to the pending notice.? I failed to notice this until after the pending membership expired.

Michael P. has posted a very good write up about this several times, most recently at /g/GroupManagersForum/message/20168, including an option you can use to prevent it from happening again.

Duane
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 05:31 AM, Tim Myers wrote:

The uploaded photo sizing in the photo albums seem to be rendered the same regardless of aspect ratio.

There's a compromise built into the system.? When you click on a photo, it's rendered as large as possible.? If you select Download below it, you'll see it at the size that it's stored at.? You can try various settings of the Max Size in Photos Section to see what combination looks the best.? This works for all groups, paid or not.

Duane
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? Our groups were? set up with pending membership notice to be sent and replied to, before admitting new member, for the life of me I cant find where I can set up the various notifications that needed by our group.. ? Can someone advise please-? thanks Steph ? ?