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Re: how can you delete old attachments
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Cathy wrote:
just need advice how to delete group attachments..or cant they be deletedMessage attachments are stored on the server so they can continue to be referenced via the online message archive. At this time there is no provision to do otherwise via group settings, the best you can do it set it up such that the oldest attachments will be deleted when you run out of space. See Admin->Settings->Message Formatting->Out of Space. You can also manually delete attachments online; but if you do that, the message will show up as being "edited" in the message archive and the original sender will receive an email notification that you've been messing with his/her messages. For that, see Admin->Upgrade and click on the "View Attachments" link. ? I hope this helps, but it probably doesn't. Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: long term viability
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 08:12 PM, Peter Cook wrote:
However, the board has one question: how do we know groups.io will continue to persist in the medium to long term?? Is it viable?? Might it be sold out to some billionaire who does not give a stuff and it deteriorates to become Return of Yahoo Groups ¨C erratic service and no support?I was in a similar situation about six months ago, and as their webmaster (and guru of all thing internet), I had a non-profit board to answer to. At this point there is no evidence that groups.io will be ephemeral; but if you really want it to stick around, you need to support it with your $$$. Although we had no real need for the features that a Premium group provides, that's what our board decided to do, as in investment in groups.io's future.? The bottom line is that you already know what Y!G is like. Rather than fretting about the future of groups.io, I believe your board should be more concerned about sticking with a provider that has already made it apparent that they don't give a [expletive deleted]. Abandon that sinking ship while you still can. Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: long term viability
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe only thing I can say is there are no guarantees in life, as we found out with Yahoo¡But it was a long run. ? Don ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Cook
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 5:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GMF] long term viability ? I love the features of groups.io.? I love that it has support and an active forum.? I am an admin for a mailing group on Yahoo Groups.? I want to recommend to the board of non-profit (whose group it is) that we move from Yahoo Groups to groups.io ? However, the board has one question: how do we know groups.io will continue to persist in the medium to long term?? Is it viable?? Might it be sold out to some billionaire who does not give a stuff and it deteriorates to become Return of Yahoo Groups ¨C erratic service and no support? ? I would like to be able to answer this question. ? Peter |
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Re: long term viability
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?So would the rest of us, I imagine.
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On the one hand what you're asking is a fair question, on the other it is unanswerable - by any service.
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Its financial viability rests on its business model. I think having monthly and yearly subscribers gives it a more stable revenue base than might readily be achieved by an advertising-based model. And it is certainly more attractive to those of us who are less than thrilled about having our information tracked and sold by all of the "free" web services out there.
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As to its future management, all I can say is that it is owned by someone for whom this is a passion project - he's unlikely to transfer it into uncaring hands. He already did that once, when Yahoo bought his prior email list service, and is dismayed by the consequences. At the bottom of any page click on About then take the link to the .
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To be fair though, the early history of Yahoo Groups did not uncaring management. At least up until 2007 or so its leadership definitely cared for the product and were working to make it thrive. But that's history now.
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Re: Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io
Shal, ? I knew what you said about Mark not getting any of this before you said it, so I already expressed my view to him through Support, and that¡¯s probably all I¡¯ll have to say on this. ? Don ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Shal Farley
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 2:01 PM To: GMF <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GMF] Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io ? Before this line of discussion goes any further let's remember that Mark is not here to hear any of this, so advising him on his choices amounts to little more than rhetorical itch-scratching. The relationship to how members here run their groups seems tangential at best. ? Shal ?
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Re: Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io
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?jonathon wrote: As a want-to-be consultant, my recommendation would be Before this line of discussion goes any further let's remember that Mark is not here to hear any of this, so advising him on his choices amounts to little more than rhetorical itch-scratching. The relationship to how members here run their groups seems tangential at best. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý¡°All things considered though,? I think I'm okay with the discount on Groups.IO.?? And, perhaps it should be extended to Charities and Environmental Protection groups as well.¡± ? With that reasoning don¡¯t you think discounts should apply to all groups of different thought? ? Don |
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Re: Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io
Dan, At the risk of getting flamed and being called names, ?That's why this topic terrifies me as a moderator. I think it is essential to GMF's mission that no one feel excluded or belittled when they come here seeking help running their group(s). So an often divisive issue such as political beliefs is treacherous. I did consider not approving the original post, on the principle that no one's political beliefs, not even Mark Fletcher's, are on-topic here. But ultimately I decided that because the message does appear on site I couldn't simply ignore it. Time will tell if that was an error in judgement. ? In recent years, the Supreme court has decided that establishing business practices that favor or disfavor groups of people based on the owner's set of beliefs is valid and is a form of free speech ?Specifically religious beliefs, which I think makes that case qualitatively different than Mark's discount. Protecting the expression of one's religious beliefs have a special place in U.S. law, which goes back to the founding of the nation.? However, I'm divided on my opinion as to whether or not businesses? should or should not exercise that "right".? On one side, it really smacks of discrimination to say "you can buy my product but you can't".? Or, you get a discount and you don't. ?I'm personally a believer in E pluribus unum? - the ideal that we are together citizens first, and members of religious, ethinic, political, and other subgroups second. That does not mean that our differences should be ignored or suppressed, but that we should not allow those differences to prevent us from living and working together peaceably. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: clarification on direct add feature
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?Yes, if you Invite or Direct Add more than 20 addresses in a 24-hour period.
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?The "why" is spammers, the "how long" is indeterminate - it is a manual process.
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In my own experience once approved for an initial Direct Add my later ones were no longer deferred. But I don't know if "my" means me as an individual or if it would apply to any owner/mod of that group. Nor do I know if others would have the same experience.
?In my experience the entire batch was deferred, and then the entire batch added.?
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?That seems to differ from your report of some being added immediately and others not.
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I had ?some in the batch not get added because typos made the email address invalid (user2example.com instead of @), and others were added but immediately had Bouncing status - again usually typos in the user name or domain.?
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The form may not handle leading or trailing spaces on the line, I think I ran into that in some cases.
?AFAIK it shouldn't matter. I was working from an Excel spreadsheet and created a column containing
Display Name <user@...>
for? ?each person to be added. I then copied the occupied cells of that column (a couple hundred rows) and pasted it directly into the Direct Add form.? That is, I excluded from the copy Row 1 (which had a column heading) and the empty cells below the bottom row in use.
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Re: Uggh and I was Liking Groups.io
Well I'm very surprised to see that also.? However, Mark Fletcher owns groups.io (as far as I know) and if he wishes to offer discounts or deals, it's his right to do so.
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Re: re time for emails to arrive
This message discusses a tool to analyze headers to see delivery delays.? Might be useful to study delayed emails.
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Bruce
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Don Grass
Shal Farley
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