Duane, then, instead of unsubbing list members, why not suspend them, so mods can restore them?? I haven't had any issues on Yahoo Groups with spammers getting into my lists, and that's because I always set for restricted memberships, and required a Comment to be included with the membership request.? If the respective list member either didn't send a comment, or sent something odd/general/nonsensical, then were denied membership with a reason.? And, offered to resubmit with a list-specific comment, the version of their software/model of their embroidery machine, etc.? Spammers just wouldn't bother replying - too much work for them.? Worked well for us, rarely needed to ever deal with that.? But with this set up, I'm getting list members automatically unsubbed almost daily.? We list mods then need to send out a separate email, from our own email accounts, telling the list member what happened and why, and where to find the auto restore email (if it came to them at all - could have easily been screened out at the front end, by their ISP's front end spam filters).?
I just don't think this is a very effective tool for those that run restricted membership lists.? It creates more work than the results.? I get it for lists that do not have restricted memberships, or, for lists that allow non-members to post - you are are much higher risk for spammers to hit your lists.? But, that's exactly why I run all my lists with restricted memberships.? We did a very good job screening out spammers, had virtually none.? Just an awful lot of extra work, and my list members often do not understand what happened, and several have been very upset, jumping to conclusions, and think we've banned them from the list :-(?? Gotta be a better way of managing this??