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Hi everyone! Today while practicing scales with my electronic tuner, I noticed that my 3rd octave Eb (the one with all the keys down) went sharp by 20 to 30 cents. I can bring it down by directing the air stream lower into the hole after a bit of trying, but it makes going to that note extra complicated for playing fast. However, I tried _not_ putting all the keys down, and just kept the middle octave fingering (left #1 up), while speeding up the air until the octave popped and it was perfectly in tune with an acceptable tone. Is this something that anyone else noticed? If I keep the middle octave fingering, am I going to run into trouble eventually? I'll mention that my flute is a Pearl Quantz, in case this is a known characteristic. Thanks in advance, --Louis Louis Bertrand louis@...

Hello everyone. Just checking in on all of you. Haven't posted here for a while. Glad to report that things are going well. I'm able to split most of my notes, but I still have a lot to discover. How are you all doing?

Dear Group, Speaking of youtube channels, I looked up our Amanda here, and saw that she's been doing martial arts training and was featured in a news story on youtube. Super interesting! Link: https://youtu.be/pk70ckOU_Qs Good on you Amanda! I like the "works really hard and never gives up" quote! Best, Jen Amanda had written: "When I've mastered it, I'll put a YouTube video of me playing it on my channel. In fact, I'll send you guys the link to my channel so you can check it out."

https://youtube.com/@fluteplayer8636

Sorry when Amanda wrote: "Both James and I are classically trained." I thought that she meant "James and Ian" and just left off some letters. I realize she's blind and proof-reading isn't easy when you are not sighted, so I assumed Ian instead of "I". Jen ______________ Amanda wrote to Flutenet: hi Cheryl. I'm glad you're a player of the flute. So am I. By the way, my name is Amanda. Feel free to email privately if you have any questions. Anyway, a flute player you should listen to is James Galway. He's fabulous. He's great. He has very good intonation, and is a virtuoso. I have been playing this beautiful instrument for 22 years. Another gentleman that plays the flute is Jethro Tall's front man Ian Anderson. Ian uses the flute in a very unusual way though. Both James and I are classically trained. Ian uses it in a rock context which I find to be very entertaining.

Sorting music and found Nathan Zalman’s charming transcription of Gounod’s Andante Cantabile from Petite Symphonie. The piano part is missing and I can’t turn up anything online - his website doesn’t exist anymore. Anybody have the piano part to share?

> Amanda writes: > My apologies. I didn't mean to confuse anyone. I don't know why I refer to myself as classically trained when it comes to piano or flute. I did take piano lessons for 15 years. And during this 15 years, I started learning the flute. I have played in piano and flute, recitals, and I've played with my high school band. I also play with my local church. It's pretty interesting when you hear the flute and the bassoon playing together. I have a friend, Sylvia, who plays the bassoon very well. There was another church I went to, and there was a woman that would volunteer her time, and bring her bassoon. When I asked if I could see her bassoon up close, she refused. Sylvia was more than happy to show me her instrument up close. She even went so far as to show me how all the pieces fit together. She even explained what the names of the pieces were. I even got the chance to see a French horn up close. I've seen many instruments in my time, including a clarinet, oboe, cello, violin, viola, French horn, and trombone. I even got to see a tuba once. the only instrument I've not seen up close is a saxophone. I've seen a trumpet up close, because my friend Adam plays one. > ------------- > Amanda writes: > Mostly, I guess you could say, I'm self-taught, or, my piano teacher would show me some things starting at her house, and then I would take it from there on my own at home. I also play in my local church. Both recorder and flute. I'm a fast learner. When someone plays some thing for me, and then it shows me how to play it, I can usually start the piece at the location where it's being taught, then take it from where the teaching left off at home. That's what I did with the Bach minuet when I was learning them on piano. I love playing Bach. I also know a couple of pieces by Edvard Grieg. Hall of the Mountain King, and Morning Mood. I also learned pussy willows, cattails by Gordon Lightfoot. > > I'm not sure actually what I meant. I just refer to myself as classically trained, because I know a lot of classical music. I think that's what I mean. I'm kind of an amateur as it were. Although I've been playing the flute for 22 years, I'm still kind of an amateur. > >

Dear Flutelovers, This word-problem is a bit like Amanda's situation the other day with someone arguing with her over who's a "flutist" as opposed to someone who is simply playing a flute. Obviously in some circles they use terms like "Professional Flutist" "Professional Musician" or "Flautist/Flutist" to mean that the person is fully employed year round performing on the flute as their primary job in the world. Whereas in other circles anyone who plays a flute is considered a flutist. (including children and teens who may be beginners). And what Phineas wrote is interesting for sure. I suppose it's like being a "scientist". People bandy the term about but there's a difference between knowing what "science" means, being interested in science, doing scientific work at some point in your life, or being a full-on fully-trained scientist who's doing full time science as their employment every day for fifty years. The latter group would likely have the strongest opinion on what being a scientist truly is, while everyone else has a bit of knowledge about science. And of course I have to add that I know several folk/pop and rock musicians who cannot read music at all but that wouldn't stop a neighbour from spreading rumours that that musician was "classically trained". Anyway, they are just words. Jen Phineas wrote: I was classically trained. But what does that really mean. I was trained by a classical Flautist and I did some courses at a conservatory. I thought it was the style of the training and the cirrulum. Whether you can play a piece. Granted, the conservatory or the teacher/instructor may have requirements based on performance in order to pass a course. ......

Dear Flutenutz, I've had a shock reaction to the idea that Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull was (according to one post yesterday) "Classically Trained" as a flute player. Do people who say this know how long Classical Training takes? It isn't just one year of lessons at Mrs. Smith's house down the street. It's six to ten years of very difficult exams and recital performances in the style of "Classical Music" which, like "Classical Ballet" or "Classical Languages" (Greek/Latin) take many many many years to perfect because they are "classic" and have lots of historically correct RULES of style etc. No, Ian Anderson was entirely self-taught, and in one interview said he got a fingering chart from his daughter who was in Grade 8 at the time, and played flute in band. There's a huge amount of difference between "classical training" and taking a few lessons. Training is very serious, like training in a sport for the Olympics. You don't just make up your own way of doing something and then claim to be "classically trained". Those two things are opposite. Mind you, to be a true innovator, and to invent something entirely new (like Anderson did) is a different skill than taking training. Jen

Dear Flutelovers, And just as a quick story for background: There's a famous rock band and their keyboard player is a neighbour of mine; tours with the band for 8 months a year; very successful for a thirty year career rock-band member. Anyway I overheard another neighbour telling everyone that the rock fellow was "classically trained". I said: "Classical training does not consist of taking a few piano lessons at Mrs. Smith's house down the street when you're 10 years old; it's a lifetime of training and taking exams to prove you can convincingly play classical music in the STYLE of classical music; historically." It just kills me how people make up factoids that are not true and just convince eachother of it when NONE of them is in the field of training themselves. Morning rant complete, as that is how it started for me. Best, Jen

Hi, all, This is my first time to post here. I hope I'm doing it right. I have 2 questions: 1. What do you consider the top three things that a good flute player needs to focus on when practicing? 2. When practicing scales, is it better to practice them slurred rather than tongued? Although I know I need to do them both way or more. Thank you! Cheryl Alabama

I had a question regarding the word flutist. If someone plays the flute, regardless if it is professional or not, is it proper to use this word? I once did that with someone over the phone, and they got all hot and bothered, telling me to stop referring to myself as a flutist because I do not play professionally.

Hello Folks - here is a brief background on the open G#. When Boehm redesigned the flute in 1847, he wanted an open G#, not closed. The closed G# caused many problems (especially on E3) that do not happen with an open G#. So what happened that caused 99% of modern "Boehm" system flutes to use closed G#? The bottom line - MONEY. The old system flutes used a closed G3, and the players that had learned on the old system flutes were reluctant to relearn fingering. Makers of the modern Boehm flutes could sell more flutes if they had a closed G3 so... There are not many flutists left that use open G# flutes. My mentor, and friend William Bennett (WIBB), who left this earth a year ago May, was one of the last (at least one of the last I know of) to totally use the open G#. All of the flutes he performed on were either original open G#, or he had them converted to open G#. I always was honored but quit panicked when he shoved one of his flutes toward me with the words "here, try this flute". I knew what to do, but it really scrambled my brain to do it! Cheers! Papa Smurf/Keith

Hi Amanda, An open hole flute doesn’t refer to the tone holes in the body of the flute. It refers to the keys. An open hole flute has holes in the keys. The pads underneath are donut shaped (for want of a simple explanation). You can look through the holes in the keys into the body of the flute. Some people have trouble getting their fingers in a position to cover the holes in the keys. If you don’t cover the holes in the keys, the flute won’t play the note you want. Some people with open hole flutes will put plugs in the holes of the keys. Some people prefer to play on a closed hole flute. The key doesn’t have a hole and the pads underneath are a rounds shape, filling in the underside of the entire key. Usually, student flutes are closed hole as it’s easier to get the correct notes as finger placement doesn’t have to be as exact. Open hole flutes don’t usually have plugs. The plugs used for open hole flutes are removable and tend to be used if a player has trouble covering the holes in the keys with the fingers. When a player is new to using an open hole flute, he/she sometimes uses plugs at first and gradually removes them. In regard to your 3rd octave Eb not sounding, maybe there’s a problem with the direction of the air stream leaving your lips. Are you able to play the notes above the Eb? Regards, Sandy (with ducks)

Hi Folks! I have not been very active on this site, generally lurking and reading. However, I was working with a student today on the Syrinx, and brought cup a question regarding "best practices". I would like to check in with the great minds of flute (yes, you!) to see what you think of some advice I have given her. For the record, my main instrument is clarinet, but I double on flute and saxophone. I can play all pretty well (though, as I tell folks, only one at a time...) I have had several years of flute lessons as an adult, from a professional here in Dayton. The student in question is a high school student, pretty accomplished. The question involves the use (or not) of the Eb pinky key when playing some of the lower notes. In bar 16, there is a D natural, followed by an F and E natural, then a Db. She was using the Eb pinky key when playing the F and E, then sliding to the Db key. I told her to not use the pinky key for those notes. The difference is almost nonexistent, and it makes the technique much cleaner. Same thing in the next measure. The other place is bar 22, where I told her to keep her third finger down for the entire last 8 notes. It makes it much easier and cleaner. Both of these go against what I was taught (*always* use the "correct" fingerings!), and I told her that, if she goes into music (I think she has better prospects, career-wise, though), she might find resistance to these ideas. Basically, I wanted to get folks' reactions, and see what other ideas you might have.

Dear Flutenutters, Many thanks, it fixed itself! I tried it an hour later and it suddenly worked. So I guess the webhost was slow to upload it and make the newly named webpage available. But thanks for caring and checking. Papa Smurf I know what you mean for sure!! Best, Jen

Dear Flutenutters, Does anyone have any experience with computer novices (like me) trying to upload a page to their website? I uploaded a updated flute teaching single webpage made using Libreoffice and saved as a webpage in html. When I deleted the old teaching webpage and changed the new file's name to "teaching.html" it appears just fine as an online page on my website. But I had take the final "L" off "html"and change its name to "teaching.htm" to match the name of the original webpage that I had just deleted. (and make all the links work.) Now, even though the new file has exactly the same name as the old file, I get a 404 error message, and cannot see the page. Does anyone know what I did wrongly? Here's the page link: http://www.jennifercluff.com/teaching.htm Help?? Jen

I’m wondering how you all organize printouts of downloaded pdf music. I have been putting each in their own labeled file folder, but am thinking there might be a better where to store the hard copies. I don’t have an ipad, etc. I just print out the downloads and have hard copies. Thank you, Stacy