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Re: IPT, low-dose, and conventional chemo
Hi Mike,
From: Milpara <milpara@...> Dr. Budwig is decisively against chemotherapyWhen she expressed her opposition to chemo, do you know if/how familiar she was w/IPT? accding to her, it is best not to use chemothearpy or there will beWas she specifically including IPT (or low-dose chemo) in this statement? Since this is your decision in spite of the overwhelming evidence ofI'm not familiar w/Mendolson's book but have read Moss's writings on the subject and, for the most part, strongly agree. But Moss's writings (at least what I've read, including his spectacular book _Questioning Chemotherapy_) about chemo's dismal results are about conventional chemo and have little (if any) relevance to IPT (or low-dose chemo as part of an integrative protocol), as far as I know. Incidentally, even Moss acknowledges that chemo's highly effective w/certain types of cancer (mostly fast-growing ones). Although Moss doesn't mention it in his book, small-cell lung cancer (SCLC) is 1 of the few types of cancer in which chemo occasionally (I have little idea how often) produces full recoveries. Also, SCLC's very difficult to treat alternatively (though Gerson therapy's often effective with it), largely because it's so fast-growing. Personally, if I had SCLC, I would probably 1st try treating it alternativly and would consider low-dose chemo or IPT only as a last resort. I've read a good bit about IPT and have spoken w/several practitioners of it and others who've studied it. For the most part, I've consistently heard very positive things. It appears to have high success rates (except perhaps very-late-stage cancers). If anyone knows of any evidence to the contrary, I'd be interested in hearing it. A respected source wrote "One can expect results [from IPT] without compromising the immune system....leaves the door open for concurrent immune therapies." I've read that IPT's effective w/lung cancer (no info specifically re: SCLC, but conventional chemo's much more effective w/SCLC than it is w/other lung cancers [NSCLC]). For more info on IPT, www.iptcancer.com www.alkalizeforhealth.net/complementarymedicine.htm (see the little box about half way down this page) Ross Hauser, M.D. wrote an excellent book: `Treating Cancer with IPT' (www.caringmedical.com/aboutus/therapylist.asp) Incidentally, other low-dose chemo protocols combined w/alt. treatments (e.g., Keith Block) have also shown excellent success, even in patients w/widely metastasized cancer who've already had extensive chemo & radiation. I'm not encouraging anyone to get IPT or any type of chemo. In principle, I don't believe in using any chemo except as a last resort, but I'm also strongly opposed to the misrepresentation of IPT or any other treatment. Leonard |
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Re: OSTEOPOROSIS
Wilhelm Hansen
Hilton,
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as the tumor markers have gone down steadily since the beginning of taking fo/cc it sounds as though you are on the right track. I think Vincent's point: "When you have a protocol that is working, don't tamper with it" is good advice. I would wait for more improvement before making a change. Like you, I do not recall Dr.Budwig mentioning a maintenance dosage for patients in remission. The only maintenance dosage I know of is for people without cancer - a prevention diet. While I am sure that your first concern is to beat the cancer, I understand that you are concerned about osteoporosis as well. Unfortunately, I am not much up to date in that department. However, I remember from reading many years ago that magnesium is very low in dairy products and that this is one of the reasons for poor calcium absorption. One of the rules I have always followed is that the calcium/magnesium ratio should be 2:1 or even 1:1 for calcium to be properly absorbed. If you look at cottage cheese (1% BF), it provides only 0.61 g of calcium and 0.05 g of magnesium. That is only about a 12:1 ratio. Therefore, I use a magnesium supplement with my fo/cc and I also eat nuts and seeds with it which have a favourable calcium/magnesium ratio. Here are some example cal/mag ratios: Almonds: 1:1.1; English Walnuts: 1:1.8, Filberts: 1:1.5; Brazil nuts: 1:1.3; Pumpkin seeds: 1:12 (the exact opposite of of the cal/mag ratio in cc). You may be able to find more and better examples - also in fruits and vegetables. As I said I do not claim have the latest word on this, but there is something you can check into. I would be interested to hear if you come up with more on that. If you want to substitute yogurt for cc, you require 2 to 3 times as much yogurt as cc which comes to ratios falling between 1:4 and 1:6 depending on how protein rich your yogurt is. Since you likely wouldn't know, 1:6 seems the way to go. Regarding the off topic part of your message, I am currently checking into a product called 'Water Oz' for mineral supplementation. Just do a Google search and you will get many web sites on it. It could be the answer to your concerns for osteoporosis. But check it out yourself. Again, if you make any interesting discoveries, let me know. If it is purely off topic please email me privately. Wilhelm sheilah glenn wrote: My wife completed chemotherapy for Ovarian Cancer in
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Re: thank you for your responses
Milpara
Hello Jan,
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Your decison to use IPT, which you say is "conventional chemo in a very 'alternative' way," has been expected all along. It would be hard to fathom you using alternative methods for your husband from what you have written, which may or may not be something real. I question the whole thing, but this only MHO. However, as a last comment, pls note that Dr. Budwig is decisively against chemotherapy so you will be flying on your own. In fact, accding to her, it is best not to use chemothearpy or there will be little chance of success on her protocol.... Since this is your decision in spite of the overwhelming evidence of chemotherapy`s dismal results ( see Dr. Robert Mendolson`s book," Dissent in Medicine" , and the writings of Dr. Moss who was one of the key cancer specialists/people at the Sloan -Ketteridge Memorial, until fired for his " radical" views of using alternative medicine), etc., etc., we can only still wish you and your husband well in your health matters. Ciao for now, and good luck, Mike Cinelli ============================================================================ = ----- Original Message -----
From: "JanPM" <pipersmama@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] thank you for your responses All of which, on list and private are greatly appreciated. I'm |
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thank you for your responses
All of which, on list and private are greatly appreciated. I'm
currently leaning towards IPT therapy which seems to utilize the conventional chemo in a very 'alternative' way. (still using the FO/CC of course - will do that forever) Anyone with feedback, or information regarding this? thanks! God Bless, Jan |
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Re: OSTEOPOROSIS
VGammill
Hilton,
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When you have a protocol that is working, don't tamper with it. Have your wife stay on same amount of FSO/CC. The CC is not enough to affect osteoporosis either way. If the two of you are worried about osteoporosis, then ask her oncologist about a single infusion of Zometa once per year. Zometa is a bisphosphonate that is usually used with cancers that have metastasized to the bone, but it also can be used as a low-dose preventative against osteoporosis. There is really no downside to its use. We often use pamidronate (Aredia) at the integrative clinics in the US and Mexico. It is an older bisphosphonate and it takes a couple of hours to infuse, but the results may be better than Zometa. For cancer these are typically administered once per month. Oral forms (such as clodronate or Actonel) are far less active. Vincent ----- Original Message -----
From: "sheilah glenn" <shiltong@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:08 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] OSTEOPOROSIS My wife completed chemotherapy for Ovarian Cancer in |
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OSTEOPOROSIS
sheilah glenn
My wife completed chemotherapy for Ovarian Cancer in
October last year.The oncologists discouraged the use of any supplements during the treatment, so she was only able to commence the FO/CC regimen in January. We mix 90 mls of Flaxseed Oil with 180 mls of Cottage Cheese each morning and she consumes this in three portions at mealtimes ( 3 times per day). Her CA125 tumour marker is now down to 10 - it has been falling every month since January.The oncologists are thrilled with her condition and are aware of the FO/CC she is taking. However, as a tumour marker of 10 is very near the lower end of the scale(the oncologist said it will not go into negative territory), I wondered whether her intake of FO/CC could now be reduced.I cannot recall Dr.Budwig specifically indicating a maintenance dosage for patients in remission. Have any members any information in this regard or could anyone point me to the correct page in Dr.Budwig's books for guidance. Secondly, I am led to believe from an article related to Osteoporosis that Cottage Cheese is not really a good choice.See insert below: "The effect of dairy products on the risk of osteoporosis-related fractures is subject to controversy. According to a review of 46 studies,36 different dairy products appear to have different effects on bone density and fracture rates. Milk, especially nonfat milk, probably does more good than harm because of its relatively lower protein and salt content, as well as its higher level of calcium. Cottage cheese and American cheese, on the other hand, probably do more harm than good. Cottage cheese is high in protein and salt but low in calcium, factors which could contribute to bone loss. American cheese is extremely high in salt and high in protein. These foods are not recommended as calcium sources for the prevention of osteoporotic fractures. Although there may be better ways of getting calcium, younger women who wish to prevent osteoporosis might consider nonfat milk and nonfat yogurt to be reasonable dietary calcium sources". Having abandoned HRT therapy since be diagnosed with Cancer, she now needs to take care of the threat of Osteoporosis developing.As she also needs to continue the FO/CC regimen it seems she will have to switch to a youghurt/flaxseedoil mixture, in order to overcome the problems indicated above. I require some clarity on the mix of Youghurt/Flaxseed Oil to enable her to win on both health issues.My understanding is that instead of 2:1 it now goes upto 3:1 Youghurt/Flaxseed Oil.Is this correct? As an off topic issue, if any members have advice on supplemental foods / vitamins that should be taken for osteoporosis that will not counteract the FO regimen I will appreciate their input, either privately or on this list if acceptable to all members. Hilton __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo |
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Re: FlaxSeedOil Tape
Cliff Beckwith
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From: "akorbeck" <alexkorbeck@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] FlaxSeedOil Tape Is Cliff Beckwith in this group? If so, what indo do you need in orderfor me to receive a tape? Thanks.
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drink tea
Jerry Mittelman
Drink Tea to Stay Germ-Free: Report
By Alison McCook NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Drinking tea appears to boost the immune system, perhaps helping people fight off or blunt the effect of infections, researchers said Monday. Non-tea drinkers who downed five to six small cups of black tea per day for two weeks appeared to be better able to fight off bacterial infections, according to the report. As an explanation for tea's benefits, experiments in the lab revealed that an ingredient found in black, green, oolong and pekoe teas boosted the ability of immune system cells to attack a bacterial invader. The experiments used ethylamine, which is produced when the tea ingredient L-theanine is broken down in the liver. Previous research suggests that ethylamine, which is also found in vegetables and wine, may target other pathogens as well, including parasites, viruses, and perhaps tumors. Based on these findings, people looking to ward off diseases might want to add certain teas to their menu, study author Dr. Jack F. Bukowski of Brigham and Women's Hospital and Harvard Medical School (news - web sites) in Boston, Massachusetts, told Reuters Health. "I think the elderly would benefit a lot from drinking tea," he said. "I think there's no downside to it." However, he added that regular tea drinkers still get sick, so people should not throw out their medicine cabinet or tell off their doctors just yet. "Drinking tea isn't a treatment or a cure for anything," Bukowski cautioned. "Probably most (tea drinkers) will still get sick. But people who do get sick will probably get a milder case," he said. The study findings appear in the online early edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (news - web sites). During the study, Bukowski and his colleagues measured the activity of immune system cells called gamma delta T cells in people who normally did not drink tea. Gamma delta T cells are an arm of the immune system charged with preventing and cushioning the blow of diseases. Previous experiments have shown that exposing these cells to ethylamine boosted the abilities of the cells to fight infections. During the study, Bukowski and colleagues extracted gamma delta T cells from people and exposed them to ethylamine. After the cells were mixed with bacteria, the researchers saw that those that had not been exposed to ethylamine mounted no attack against the bacteria. However, cells that had been previously exposed to the tea component multiplied by 10-fold, and therefore produced larger amounts of a chemical that fights bacteria. And in experiments with people, the researchers found that after drinking about 20 ounces of tea a day for two weeks, people's gamma delta T cells produced a wealth of anti-bacterial chemicals when exposed to bacteria. In contrast, people who drank coffee instead of tea during the study produced no disease-fighting proteins in response to bacteria. Despite the supposed power of tea to fight infection, Bukowski urged people to maintain a healthy perspective on the findings. "If peoplee sick, they shouldn't start drinking tea to get better," he said. "They should go to the doctor." SOURCE: --Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences -------------------- Don't miss out - get your free sample copy of The Holistic Dental Digest PLUS - in its 24th year of helping people = information you're not likely to get elsewhere -- by replying to jmittelman@... with your PO Box or street address. |
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Re: Digest Number 717
Wilhelm Hansen
Ken,
regarding your questions - I see that whey has the highest protein content (see table below) <Actually, according to the table below, cottage cheese and goat's soft cheese are higher in protein content. ...does it have the associated high sulphur content consistent withthe Budwig protocol? < Good question (I assume you are asking about sulphur protein content). Consider that whey is a dried product. When you add water to consume it you reduce the percentage of protein relative to the new wetted quantity. For instance if you add 1 scoop of water to 1 scoop of whey powder you have a wetted product with 1/2 the protein level of what is stated for the dry product. If you add 2 scoops of water to each scoop of whey powder you end up with 1/3 the protein. However you do it, you should compare the new wetted whey with quark or cottage cheese. You will likely come to the conclusion that quark and cc are higher in sulpurated proteins. ...what is the significance of Cystine and Methionine in a therapeuticsetting? < Cysteine and Methionine are the sulphurated proteins required in the Budwig Diet to be mixed with FSO. Cystine and Cysteine are similar inasmuch that Cystine is a double bond of Cysteine and gets broken down into Cysteine. ( > I use a commercial powdered whey for a general protein source < Commercial whey powders sold for body building are usually higher in sulphurated proteins than what is given in the table below because of different processes used to enhance the protein content. One thing with most of them is that they come from a pool of whey left in cheese making and you have no idea where the whey comes from. At least when you buy quark, cc or yogurt you know the milk comes from a place not very far away. If you get it organic you likely know where it comes from, and if you get it unpasteurized you should know exactly where it comes from. Wilhelm Ken Mehaffey wrote: I see that whey has the highest protein content (see table below), |
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Re: New Member questions..help please :) Willhem
Wilhelm Hansen
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if you must eat eggs, they should be "cage free hormone free" for sure. Try to find someone who has chickens free running on pasture where they find greens, bugs and get sunshine. Some 'free running chickens' are out of the cage but they are still penned up in a barn with artificial lights. That is not good enough. I would try to stay away from eggs for a while, even those from properly raised chickens until I feel I am well on the road to recovery. What you could do in the interim if you want to eat eggs is to eat egg whites without the yolk. That leaves the fat out. If that is too hard on you, eat eggs "occasionally" as you say, it is your choice. Because one of the other things you want to do is to remove all stress from your life. To put things into perspective, eating the occasional egg would not be as bad as eating hydrogenated fats. That is an absolute no-no. Even a bit of that is too much. Wilhelm D Lallatin wrote: Thank You so much for this clarification. I am going to try this
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Re: HCL relief
Claire West
Darla,
Thanks for the recommendation for Capra Mineral Whey. Unfortunately, I'm one of those people who don't do well even with the best kind of goat's milk. I've tried and tried. :( I did find their website though--always curious about various products, and especially about sodium phosphate which I hadn't heard of before--and while I didn't get the info I wanted on s.p. (I'll look elsewhere), the whey did look seem a good product for someone who's "good" with goat's milk. Claire |
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Re: New Member questions..help please :) Willhem
Thank You so much for this clarification. I am going to try this today!Do you then eat cage free hormone free eggs occasionally?
Wilhelm Hansen <wilhelmh@...> wrote:Darla, Dr.Budwig sees animal fats as one of the repiratory poisons (referring to cell respiration) and wants her patients to stay away from it. Therefore the low fat dairy. She does not make a distinction between butter fat and other animal fats. You don't need to take 1/4 cup (60 ml) of cottage cheese with each tablespoon (15 ml) of FSO. 1/8 cup (30 ml) is enough. That gives you a 1:2 ratio (fo:cc) which is what Dr.Budwig has been using. If you use yogurt, take 2 to 3 times as much of it for each tblsp of FSO as you would take cottage cheese. Regarding your problems with pasteurized milk (which you mentioned in another post), you may be lacking the enzyme lactase. I didn't see that anyone has suggested using it. Have you tried it? It could solve your problem with digesting pasteurized milk products. That coupled with about half the quantity of cc (than you have been taking) could make the difference. I hope so. Good luck, Wilhelm Darla Lallatin wrote: Thank you so much for your lengthy reply, you are very kind!!! I am Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. |
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Re: New Member questions..help please :) Willhem
Thank You so much for this clarification. I am going to try this today!Do you then eat cage free hormone free eggs occasionally?
Wilhelm Hansen <wilhelmh@...> wrote:Darla, Dr.Budwig sees animal fats as one of the repiratory poisons (referring to cell respiration) and wants her patients to stay away from it. Therefore the low fat dairy. She does not make a distinction between butter fat and other animal fats. You don't need to take 1/4 cup (60 ml) of cottage cheese with each tablespoon (15 ml) of FSO. 1/8 cup (30 ml) is enough. That gives you a 1:2 ratio (fo:cc) which is what Dr.Budwig has been using. If you use yogurt, take 2 to 3 times as much of it for each tblsp of FSO as you would take cottage cheese. Regarding your problems with pasteurized milk (which you mentioned in another post), you may be lacking the enzyme lactase. I didn't see that anyone has suggested using it. Have you tried it? It could solve your problem with digesting pasteurized milk products. That coupled with about half the quantity of cc (than you have been taking) could make the difference. I hope so. Good luck, Wilhelm Darla Lallatin wrote: Thank you so much for your lengthy reply, you are very kind!!! I am Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. |
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Re: HCL relief
Claire,You might want to try Capra Mineral Whey. This is dehydrated goat whey and is an excellent whole food source of sodium phosphate ( which needs to be present in your stomach for proper amounts of HCL to be produced. Just 1 heaping tsp. at each meal over will do wonders for your digestion and assimilation. I have seen this work time and time again for many people. This is made by Mt. Capra Cheese, sorry I do not have a number for them, most health food stored should carry this. Darla
Claire West <clairewest1@...> wrote:Hi Les, <This all sounds interesting - I've researched ceviche recipes a little. How much FSO do you add to the salmon ceviche (Fluid Oz per lb or ml per gm)? This is of concern because Dr Budwig suggests that too much FSO in relation to the amount of sulpherated protein can be detrimental rather than beneficial. I only eat about 3 oz of the ceviche at a time (I'm an older person, with limited stomach acid, and must take a hydrochloric capsule even with that small an amount). I started taking 2T of oil with it, but that seemed too much (I can tell immediately from gas forming in my stomach), so now I take 1T. If you have an idea about a good ratio in this instance, I'd be interested in your ideas. Claire Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. |
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Re: questions..help please!! :)
Thank you Claire! Just a few days ago I started adding in 1/2 teaspon organic kelp powder to my meals three times a day..we must be in sync. :) The raw goat yogurt has already provided me with some real relief. Thanks!
Claire West <clairewest1@...> wrote:Darla, Raw goat's milk sounds like an excellent solution for you. I would, though, like to add a thought here, since you don't eat fish and are fighting cancer: you might want to consider adding kelp or some other sea vegetable to your diet as I think it is very difficult to obtain all the trace minerals we need from farmed produce--even when its organic. Claire Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. |
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pharma-cartel
Jerry Mittelman
The pharmaceutical industry cannot be trusted to develop new drugs for 90% of the world's sick, a has claimed.
In an outspoken attack on drug companies, Sir John Sulston, Nobel prize winner, who led the British element of the Human Genome Project, accused the industry of having a 'hidden agenda' of making money at the expense of curing disease. Sir John said we have to 'change the system' and not depend on private companies to find new treatments for the majority of illnesses. He pointed out that 90% of the world's disease burden receives just 10% of drug companies' research and development budgets. He also highlighted the industry spends three times as much marketing its products as it does researching them.. . .. Sarah-Kate Templeton in the Bolen Report - - - - Don't miss out - get your free sample copy of The Holistic Dental Digest PLUS - in its 24th year of helping people = information you're not likely to get elsewhere -- by replying to jmittelman@... with your PO Box or street address. |
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Re: Breast Cancer
Ken Woody
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From: Cliff Beckwith To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Breast Cancer Hi Darla, Perhaps others have answered this more adequately than I by this time. It may have something to do with allergic reactions. There may be other things that can help supply the needed sulfur based proteins. There is a product called "ezekiel" bread available at health food stores. It is a heavy, nutritious bread made with sprouted grains that has all the amino acids. A couple of slices of that at the time of using FO would be a big help. Also, I have read that dried skim milk powder is a rich source of the needed proteins. I have no idea how much to use. There is a product called "Companion Nutrients" available at Nature;s distributors in Arizona that is supposed to be designed to make the Essential Fatty Acids work. My wife uses them as have I at times. Use one capsule per tablespoon of oil; probably best before meals. These sources, or combinations of them, might help. Cliff Cliff, Did you read my email concerning my touble using FO/CC and the stomach pain, bloating, constipation etc.? If so do you have any thoughts on that and what I can do? I would hate to have to stop using it!! Thank You! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: questions..help please!! :)--Diane
Claire West
Diane,
<Would you explain to me what is a hydrochloric capsule. I too have problem with my acidity in my stomach and I use to help some Apple Cider Vinegar Powder for every day help. Ohterwise in emergency, I have used some Apple Vienegar in a glass of water with honey. Which one is better? What is the difference, does someone know? Hydrochloric acid is produced by the stomach to break down protein and to make the digestive environment acidic enough for the other digestive enzymes to work on carbs and fats. (But they should only be taken when eating protein.) As we get older and/or or our health is impaired, less acid may be produced. The acid--HCL--is available in both capsule and tablet form (though I'm told the tablets are not very effective.) I take the capsules now--after years of resisting--only because remedies such as lemon juice or apple cider vinegar don't work for me. If the vinegar works for you, I would think you'd be better with that as I always prefer the natural source as opposed to something that is processed, or handled, or put together in a factory. (In fact, the HLC capsules are the only supplement I take.) And for the same reason, I would personally prefer the vinegar as liquid to the vinegar in powdered form. Just my opinion. Claire |
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