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Re: OSTEOPOROSIS


Wilhelm Hansen
 

Hilton,
as the tumor markers have gone down steadily since the beginning of
taking fo/cc it sounds as though you are on the right track. I think
Vincent's point: "When you have a protocol that is working, don't tamper
with it" is good advice. I would wait for more improvement before making
a change. Like you, I do not recall Dr.Budwig mentioning a maintenance
dosage for patients in remission. The only maintenance dosage I know of
is for people without cancer - a prevention diet.

While I am sure that your first concern is to beat the cancer, I
understand that you are concerned about osteoporosis as well.
Unfortunately, I am not much up to date in that department. However, I
remember from reading many years ago that magnesium is very low in dairy
products and that this is one of the reasons for poor calcium
absorption. One of the rules I have always followed is that the
calcium/magnesium ratio should be 2:1 or even 1:1 for calcium to be
properly absorbed. If you look at cottage cheese (1% BF), it provides
only 0.61 g of calcium and 0.05 g of magnesium. That is only about a
12:1 ratio. Therefore, I use a magnesium supplement with my fo/cc and I
also eat nuts and seeds with it which have a favourable
calcium/magnesium ratio. Here are some example cal/mag ratios: Almonds:
1:1.1; English Walnuts: 1:1.8, Filberts: 1:1.5; Brazil nuts: 1:1.3;
Pumpkin seeds: 1:12 (the exact opposite of of the cal/mag ratio in cc).
You may be able to find more and better examples - also in fruits and
vegetables. As I said I do not claim have the latest word on this, but
there is something you can check into. I would be interested to hear if
you come up with more on that.

If you want to substitute yogurt for cc, you require 2 to 3 times as
much yogurt as cc which comes to ratios falling between 1:4 and 1:6
depending on how protein rich your yogurt is. Since you likely wouldn't
know, 1:6 seems the way to go.

Regarding the off topic part of your message, I am currently checking
into a product called 'Water Oz' for mineral supplementation. Just do a
Google search and you will get many web sites on it. It could be the
answer to your concerns for osteoporosis. But check it out yourself.
Again, if you make any interesting discoveries, let me know. If it is
purely off topic please email me privately. Wilhelm

sheilah glenn wrote:

My wife completed chemotherapy for Ovarian Cancer in
October last year.The oncologists discouraged the use
of any supplements during the treatment, so she was
only able to commence the FO/CC regimen in January.
We mix 90 mls of Flaxseed Oil with 180 mls of Cottage
Cheese each morning and she consumes this in three
portions at mealtimes ( 3 times per day).
Her CA125 tumour marker is now down to 10 - it has
been falling every month since January.The oncologists
are thrilled with her condition and are aware of the
FO/CC she is taking.
However, as a tumour marker of 10 is very near the
lower end of the scale(the oncologist said it will not
go into negative territory), I wondered whether her
intake of FO/CC could now be reduced.I cannot recall
Dr.Budwig specifically indicating a maintenance dosage
for patients in remission.
Have any members any information in this regard or
could anyone point me to the correct page in
Dr.Budwig's books for guidance.

Secondly, I am led to believe from an article related
to Osteoporosis that Cottage Cheese is not really a
good choice.See insert below:

"The effect of dairy products on the risk of
osteoporosis-related fractures is subject to
controversy. According to a review of 46 studies,36
different dairy products appear to have different
effects on bone density and fracture rates. Milk,
especially nonfat milk, probably does more good than
harm because of its relatively lower protein and salt
content, as well as its higher level of calcium.
Cottage cheese and American cheese, on the other hand,
probably do more harm than good. Cottage cheese is
high in protein and salt but low in calcium, factors
which could contribute to bone loss. American cheese
is extremely high in salt and high in protein. These
foods are not recommended as calcium sources for the
prevention of osteoporotic fractures. Although there
may be better ways of getting calcium, younger women
who wish to prevent osteoporosis might consider nonfat
milk and nonfat yogurt to be reasonable dietary
calcium sources".

Having abandoned HRT therapy since be diagnosed with
Cancer, she now needs to take care of the threat of
Osteoporosis developing.As she also needs to continue
the FO/CC regimen it seems she will have to switch to
a youghurt/flaxseedoil mixture, in order to overcome
the problems indicated above.
I require some clarity on the mix of Youghurt/Flaxseed
Oil to enable her to win on both health issues.My
understanding is that instead of 2:1 it now goes upto
3:1 Youghurt/Flaxseed Oil.Is this correct?

As an off topic issue, if any members have advice on
supplemental foods / vitamins that should be taken for
osteoporosis that will not counteract the FO regimen I
will appreciate their input, either privately or on
this list if acceptable to all members.
Hilton



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