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LOL, who was it said the definition of stupidity is doing the same
thing and expecting a different result?

Still, there's an art to figuring out which few lifestyle changes are
likely to a big effect on a specific individual, instead of insisting
someone simultaneously change everything - diet, clothes, thought
patterns, where they live, pets, jobs, friends, soaps - even though
each of these can be negatively affecting someone.

Easier to get someone to add a lot of fo/cc to their otherwise normal
life style than ask them to drive 2 hours to the nearest organic food
store every day and take up cooking for the first time in their life
instead of eating the foods the church people bring.

Ya gotta find the few changes that work well, because suggesting too
many changes can be so overwhelming the result is people give up
without trying anything.

Liz

Neenah,
It is truly encouraging to hear such success stories!!

I was just thinking how much raw data this group contains! People try
on their own and some succeed some don't. Each person got cancer for
different reasons. May be we could try to create a book based on
findings of this group? The book could include all details of each
case, it could include cases when people succeeded and cases when
people failed or couldn't make it work for them. We could include all
data from the very beginning, like what was their originally
lifestyle, what foods they usually ate, excercise, sun exposure, etc.
We could also include any symptoms that started showing up during the
last year before diagnosis, like their hair started going grey, or
nails started breaking, etc. Then we could include the journal of
what people have tried and what their tests showed. Each case would
be different but at then end they all would have some things in
common. There are 1379 member in this group and this group was
created 4 years ago. I am sure some of us would have experiences to
share...

That way we could bring together all the raw data, all the findings
and someone smart could analysize the results and find out solutions.
We could print such a book of findings and call it "FlaxSeedOil2". We
could donate the proceedings to the research and development of
Budwig diet, or alternative medicine in general and we could
certainly make cancer patients read the book and be informed as
Neenah proposes. What say you...?

Karine

Vanessa,

If you were exposed to a lot of chemicals, cleaning the house from it
may not be enough. May be you should also clean up your body cells
from the chemical that caused cancer? I don't know how you can do it,
but I believe there are a few detoxifying theories.

Another thought that came to my mind is that basically you took a lot
of essencial fats but not enough sulfur proteins to bind with?? And
that created an inbalance in your body? In which case you should try
to fix that inbalance by really balancing flaxoil with cottage cheese
or some other sulphur source like yogurt? I am just thinking out loud.

Also, if you were on heavy beans, legumes, etc diet and it failed you
may be you should consider to do some diet changes?

I think you should get to the core of your problem, why your body,
cells failed you and get to the root cause. Once you fix the root
cause then the treatment would work much more efficiently I think. It
makes sense to understand what is the purpose of each food selected
in JB diet and to include all "weapons" involved...

Sorry, may be my thoughts don't make much sense but I still thought
to tell you.

Wish you a great victory!
Karine

Barlean's makes a great flax seed oil. You can also get a discount if you
are a cancer patient.


Esther

Pat

How much Sun exposure are you getting? In you eyes also?

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "patrickreardon"
<patrickreardon@y...> wrote:

Anyone, Everyone,

I was just told that too much flaxoil can cause depression. I have
been and am depressed (don't know exactly why).

Is this too much? My health condition is a brain stem glioma that I
want to shrink and eliminate.

Thanks,
Pat

Well said, Wilhelm!


<wilhelmh@t...> wrote:
Hi Liz, welcome to the group.

I've skimmed through most of May's postings and some of the files.

1 to 2 ratio flax seed oil to cottage cheese.

That is the right ratio.

Does it matter what cottage cheese - large curd or small...

No

...regular or low fat or no fat?

Yes, use low fat cottage cheese (CC) without additives - organic if
you can get it.

How much of this per day for serious attack on a cancer, vs for

maintenance after defeating a cancer or for prevention if one has not
had cancer.

Maintenance level is about 1 tblsp FO (mixed with CC) per 100 lb
body weight.

In cases of cancer or other diseases the level is much higher.
Read our files "3 - FSO2 Files - Budwig Diet" to see what Dr. Budwig
used in general in cases of illnesses. Fine tuning depends on
such things as ability to eat and body weight of the individual.

Take into account the transition diet as given in the files for those
who are too sick to eat properly.

When people in testmonials speak of fo/cc are they meaning flax seed

oil plus cottage cheese and that's all, or is fo/cc a shorthand for
flax seed oil plus cottage cheese plus fresh ground flax seed?

That differs depending on who wrote it. The proper way in the Budwig
Protocol is to use fo/cc and freshly ground flaxseeds as stated in our files.

Situation 1: friend has pancreatic cancer, has been through several

rounds of chemo, doctor said it's time to think of hospice, he is
weak, lots of pain, newly using wheel chair because one leg goes into
spasm, depression behavior (sleeps all day), eats/drinks almost nothing
except occasional sweets (he's diabetic, take shots), wife doesn't
cook and doesn't want to cook so she's not going to feel competent to
undertake a whole new meal plan. Cottage cheese and flax seed oil
perhaps, I can't see her agreeing to do more than that.

It is a tough situation when the affected people don't have the drive
or desire to follow an alternative method of healing and learn more
about it.

They don't believe in any kind of alternative medicine, so they might

try something to humor me but won't be gung ho about adopting major
lifestyle changes.

They need to want to do it or else it would likely be nothing but a fruitless
struggle for you.

Critical health situation, no health insurance, no money (they did get

medicaid).

The Budwig Protocol is probably the cheapest alternative healing method
of them all, so the lack of medical insurance is not the problem in deciding
to go for it or not. Pay for good foods like flaxseed oil, CC, fruit, vegetables,
etc. with money saved from cutting out bad foods.

Situation 2: Dentist told me several years ago I have a pre-cancerous

condition - thickening of the gums, often a sign of pre-cancer in
female organs. He recommended hormones, I don't trust those estrogen
replacement drugs (and shortly after his recommendation the news broke
about how bad they can be).

Hormone replacement therapy has come under a lot of fire. There is a lot
of it written on the internet like these articles:

So I'm sitting on a time bomb that needs defusing. That should be

easier than attacking a full blown cancer. I willing to try anything, but as
with most human beings, major lifestyle changes are hard to do, easier
to make a few minor adaptations.

That is quite normal. You are absolutely right that major lifestyle changes
are hard to do, but major lifestyle changes are often required to get major
results. Minor changes bring minor results.

Wilhelm

Yes, prednisone, in particular, can affect mood. I do not think flax
oil is particularly noted for doing so, though. And since we were
originally talking about a brain tumor on this thread, I would think
the brain tumor itself could be far more responsible for mood changes
than flax oil.

Hello,

It is my first post on this group. I have discovered Dr Budwig's work
and this group two years ago, and ordered her two books in English.
As French-speaking, I found nothing from Dr Budwig's work in French,
unless recipes of "Crème Budwig", sometimes fanciful(FO replaced
by sunflower oil, for example, probably because FO is forbidden in
France).
So, I started to translate some files and excerpts from her books to
French.
You can find them in 'Files' F3 F5 F9.

Thanks to all, especially Rebecca and Wilhelm.

Luc

Below, an explanation in French.

J'ai découvert les recherches du Dr Johanna Budwig il y a deux ans
et depuis, je me suis passionné pour son travail; sans parler
explicitement des omégas 3 (le mot n'existait pas), elle avait
découvert leurs bienfaits, il y a près de 50 ans! Il semble
que, tout à coup, tout le monde s'accorde aujourd'hui pour
souligner les méfaits des graisses hydrogénées (trans-fats)
sur le coeur et l'organisme; le Dr Budwig le proclamait dès les
années 50.
Il y a quelques mois, j'ai lu "Guérir(le stress, l'anxiété
et la dépression sans médicaments ni psychanalyse)" de David
Servan-Schreiber, publié en 2003; le chapitre 9 est intitulé :
"La révolution des oméga-3: comment nourrir le cerveau
émotionnel"; cette révolution, le dr Budwig la menait il y a 50
ans: si vous lisez "Flax oil as a true aid...", vous constaterez
qu'elle soulignait explicitement les bienfaits de l'huile de lin sur
le stress, en 1959.
Sans parler des bienfaits de l'ail, de l'oignon, des légumes
frais, des noix(au sens large), des épices dont elle fait grand
usage dans ses recettes.
Comme, malgré une recherche intensive sur Internet, je n'ai
pratiquement rien trouvé sur cette femme extraordinaire, sinon des
recettes de "crème Budwig", parfois fantaisistes (l'huile de
linette* étant remplacées par de l'huile de tournesol, p.ex.,
probablement parce que l'huile de lin à usage alimentaire est
interdite en France; cependant il faut rendre hommage ici au Dr
Catherine Kousmine), que ses ouvrages n'existent pas en fran?ais
et comme ce groupe m'a fourni indirectement pas mal d'information, et
qu'il semble s'y trouver quelques francophones, j'ai essayé de
traduire certains fichiers de Wilhelm et certains extraits des deux
livres.
Ils sont mis en ligne sous 'Files' F3 F5 F9
Suivant le temps dont je dispose (et mon courage), j'essaierai
d'étoffer; et s'il se trouve quelqu'un pour m'aider, tant mieux!
Il y a très certainement des approximations et des contresens.
Mais je ne suis pas traducteur professionnel et, de plus, il s'agit
d'un texte traduit de l'allemand en anglais (le texte anglais
comportant sans doute déjà des approximations et des
contresens).
J'espère disposer un jour de la version originale en allemand.

Bonne lecture,

Luc

* en fran?ais, on utilise souvent "huile de linette(jeune lin)"
pour éviter la confusion avec "l'huile de lin" industrielle.

PS Deux liens où l'on cite Johanna Budwig :

(mais l'huile de lin est remplacée par tournesol ou carthame)

Some medicines can cause great depression, too.

Pat

I can tell that in my case FO/CC did the opposite. I was prior to the Budwig regime very depressed but in few days after I started with FO/CC and the rest - fresh fruit, lot of vegetables etc. I noticed I am not depressed at all. I am also using 10 tablespoons a day. It does not harm me at all. Maybe something else makes you depressed?
Suzana

Dr. Budwig said to mix it fresh for each meal.

Wilhelm


Can I mix up a week's worth at a time? Two day's worth? One day's
worth in the morning?

Cottage cheese and flax seed oil each keep for more than a week in the
fridge, but I don't know if the mixture changes the keeping ability.

Would be fun to have a week's mixture and just take a spoonful
whenever the nibbles hit.

Liz

Can I mix up a week's worth at a time? Two day's worth? One day's
worth in the morning?

Cottage cheese and flax seed oil each keep for more than a week in the
fridge, but I don't know if the mixture changes the keeping ability.

Would be fun to have a week's mixture and just take a spoonful
whenever the nibbles hit.

Liz

Hi Liz, welcome to the group.

I've skimmed through most of May's postings and some of the files.

1 to 2 ratio flax seed oil to cottage cheese.

That is the right ratio.

Does it matter what cottage cheese - large curd or small...

No

...regular or low fat or no fat?

Yes, use low fat cottage cheese (CC) without additives - organic if
you can get it.

How much of this per day for serious attack on a cancer, vs for

maintenance after defeating a cancer or for prevention if one has not
had cancer.

Maintenance level is about 1 tblsp FO (mixed with CC) per 100 lb
body weight.

In cases of cancer or other diseases the level is much higher.
Read our files "3 - FSO2 Files - Budwig Diet" to see what Dr. Budwig
used in general in cases of illnesses. Fine tuning depends on
such things as ability to eat and body weight of the individual.

Take into account the transition diet as given in the files for those
who are too sick to eat properly.

When people in testmonials speak of fo/cc are they meaning flax seed

oil plus cottage cheese and that's all, or is fo/cc a shorthand for
flax seed oil plus cottage cheese plus fresh ground flax seed?

That differs depending on who wrote it. The proper way in the Budwig
Protocol is to use fo/cc and freshly ground flaxseeds as stated in our files.

Situation 1: friend has pancreatic cancer, has been through several

rounds of chemo, doctor said it's time to think of hospice, he is
weak, lots of pain, newly using wheel chair because one leg goes into
spasm, depression behavior (sleeps all day), eats/drinks almost nothing
except occasional sweets (he's diabetic, take shots), wife doesn't
cook and doesn't want to cook so she's not going to feel competent to
undertake a whole new meal plan. Cottage cheese and flax seed oil
perhaps, I can't see her agreeing to do more than that.

It is a tough situation when the affected people don't have the drive
or desire to follow an alternative method of healing and learn more
about it.

They don't believe in any kind of alternative medicine, so they might

try something to humor me but won't be gung ho about adopting major
lifestyle changes.

They need to want to do it or else it would likely be nothing but a fruitless
struggle for you.

Critical health situation, no health insurance, no money (they did get

medicaid).

The Budwig Protocol is probably the cheapest alternative healing method
of them all, so the lack of medical insurance is not the problem in deciding
to go for it or not. Pay for good foods like flaxseed oil, CC, fruit, vegetables,
etc. with money saved from cutting out bad foods.

Situation 2: Dentist told me several years ago I have a pre-cancerous

condition - thickening of the gums, often a sign of pre-cancer in
female organs. He recommended hormones, I don't trust those estrogen
replacement drugs (and shortly after his recommendation the news broke
about how bad they can be).

Hormone replacement therapy has come under a lot of fire. There is a lot
of it written on the internet like these articles:

So I'm sitting on a time bomb that needs defusing. That should be

easier than attacking a full blown cancer. I willing to try anything, but as
with most human beings, major lifestyle changes are hard to do, easier
to make a few minor adaptations.

That is quite normal. You are absolutely right that major lifestyle changes
are hard to do, but major lifestyle changes are often required to get major
results. Minor changes bring minor results.

Wilhelm

Hi, Pat.

If you are taking flax oil with yoghurt, you must strain the yoghurt
through cheese cloth or some other fine fabric in order to get it to
a cottage cheese-like consistency. Otherwise, the proportions will
not be right.

Ten tablespoons may be too much. But who told you "too much flax oil"
can cause depression? There have been so very many things of all
kinds said about what flax oil can do.

Also, are you eating fresh-ground flax seed? That needs to be part of
the diet, and probably should take the place of some of the flax oil
you are eating.

About depression, I do not think depression just "happens." I think,
in the majority of cases, there needs to be some
emotional/psychological reason for depression to occur.

Elliot

patrickreardon wrote:

Anyone, Everyone,

I was just told that too much flaxoil can cause depression. I have
been and am depressed (don't know exactly why).

I take 10 tablespoons a day, 5 in the morning, with yoghrt and
berries, 5 in the afternoon, pureed with cottage cheese and various
greens.

Is this too much? My health condition is a brain stem glioma that I
want to shrink and eliminate.

Thanks,


Pat

Dear Pat,

I don't know whether that is too much or not. If your body tolerates it may be an answer.

I know one thing to my own satisfaction. This would be a better shot than chemo.

Cliff

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Anyone, Everyone,

I was just told that too much flaxoil can cause depression. I have
been and am depressed (don't know exactly why).

I take 10 tablespoons a day, 5 in the morning, with yoghrt and
berries, 5 in the afternoon, pureed with cottage cheese and various
greens.

Is this too much? My health condition is a brain stem glioma that I
want to shrink and eliminate.

Thanks,


Pat

Can anyone recommend any particular brand and best place to purchase
nutritional yeast?--Nelson

Sorry I don't know, but what is Eldi R Oil?

Hi Esther and Kim,

I am glad Esther that you have such positive effect from the Eldi Oil. The feeling of well-being is probably partially because of the massaging action, but the main reason should be due to supplying the body with the essential fatty acids and other ingredients in Eldi Oil through the skin. That was the idea of it and that is reason for the warm shower... to open the pores for better penetration of the oil. Unfortunately only a few people go as far as ordering Eldi Oil for the extra punch it is claimed to give the Budwig Protocol.

As Kim says, keep us posted,

Wilhelm

I had no idea this was in our photos section of this list! Glad to see
this because the "other" Budwig board has even been saying they are not
sure Dr. Budwig even existed!

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