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"But bring that up in the wrong forum and you are toast."

Toasted, roasted and fried in oil!

I swear, there's an FDA representative on the board who keeps everyone in check. Even mention anything non-"evidence based" and you'll get your head handed to you on a cardboard platter.

I would approach any illness like a marathon. Get in shape, for cryin' out loud! Stop smokin', drinkin', and get your ass out there and start movin' if you want to stay alive. Instead, it's "where do I go to stick my arm out; gimme your best chemicals."

I don't get it. Nope, I sure don't.

---That is why I mix turmeric and ginger with my focc.
Charles, sunfish117


In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Paul Cates" <paerca@h...> wrote:

Barb,
The progression, as I understand it, is that aracihdonic acid (from
eating beef) is converted into 5-HETE (the substance cancer eats)
through 5-lo. 5-lo inhibitors are many times also cox-2 inhibitors
(the ones that the doc prescribes for arthritis etc) They are
finding that some of these cox-2 inhibitors also inhibit 5-lo and
therefore inhibit 5-HETE which is in turn is supposed to starve the
cancer. Among the list of cox-2 inhibitors are: aspirin, ibuprofen,
celebrex and naturals like gingerol, curcumin and boswellia. Some

of

the cox-2 inhibitors are also reported to help with apoptosis (cell
death cycle).

Paul


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Barb <barb1283@y...> wrote:

Paul,
What is " almost
all of the natural 5-
lo inhibitors I can find."?
Not a list of them but what are they- 5-lo
inhibitors?, what kind o substances?
Thanks.
Barb

..>
Paul wronte:
(Zyfkamend and added
ginger and I am still
looking for boswellia) I also take ellagic acid
and eat lots of red
raspberries.





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I was told that we must eat according to our blood type.

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O Types: Can eat meat, fish, most vegetables and most fruit. They should avoid wheat. Starchy vegetables such as corn, dairy food and oranges.

A Types: Can eat vegetables, tofu and soy products. They should avoid meat. Dairy food, most beans and legumes and wheat.

B Types: Can eat red meat, seafood, grains, beans, most legumes, most vegetables and most fruit. They should avoid chicken, starchy vegetables like corn, lentils, peanuts, sesame products and wheat.

AB Types: Can eat meat, seafood, dairy food, tofu, beans, legumes, grains, fruit and vegetables. They should limit their intake of red meat, kidney and luma beans, seeds, corn and buckwheat.



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Unfortunately, Dr. Holick's studies, underwritten by the tanning
industry, may cause more damage than lack of vitamin D every could.
Our society is already becoming tanaholic... and the incidences of
melanoma are rising rapidly. As a stage III melanoma patient, I urge
you not to spread that article around to people who would interpret
it to mean that getting a tan is healthy. A tan is the body's way of
reacting to sun damage. UV Rays (A and B) are toxic. Be careful not
to overexpose yourself. There are other ways to get vitamin D.

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "skpound" <skpound@y...> wrote:

I'm currently doing Dr. Lorraine Day's anti-cancer program in
conjunction with Dr. Budwig's. They're both very compatible. One

of

the 10 steps of Dr. Day's program is getting some sunlight each

day.

(I may have read that here also) Anyways, I just sat out in the
sunlight for 15 minutes front and 15 minutes back. I have to say

my

skin feels envigorated, I feel more energy and my skin just feels
healthier after getting some sunshine. I'm planning to make it a
habit. The only cautions I've read are to not get too much sun and
to avoid 11am-3pm as the UV rays are highest at those times.

Here's a couple of articles on the benefits of sunshine.

Sunshine heals more than it harms:


Sunshine:

Keith

I do not have prostate cancer but a high psa and enlarged prostate. I have
been on the flaxseed oil protocol for about two months as a preventive
measure. I injured by knee playing tennis years ago and have worn a knee
elastic band for years. Probably 15 years or so. I could not walk to the
bath room first thing in the morning without a slight limp. I cannot explain
it but about three weeks ago I noticed my knee not hurting and no
discomfort. I have not worn my knee band now for about three weeks and
cannot believe how it feels. I can only explain that since I started the
FO/CC that something has happened to my knee. After 15 years of discomfort
without the elastic knee band what can I say. I take FO/CC religiously every
day. I also noticed several early morning "old age aches and pains" are
gone. Taking FO/CC cannot hurt you. You have nothing to loose and everything
to gain. Follow the plan, don't change anything and after three to four
weeks you be the judge.
Ed

DIET OVERHAUL!!!!!!

Will reduce your prostate inflammation, not drugs.
Speaking from my own experience,,,,,
I no longer:
Dribble after peeing.
Suffer from ejaculation jet lag.
Run to the WC (water closet) in a frenzy.
Carry a jar by my side in the car.
Get up 2 + Xs (plus times) throughout the night with urgencies to urinate.
My bladder still does not empty first time around, and by pressing
repeatedly below stomach, backflushing and kegeling I've shown improvement. (from a
weak to a strong stream)

Processed foods, alcohol, spicy salsa, coffee, carbonated drinks, and downing
3 + beers to name a few will cause me to tailspin, and bring back the bad old
days.

Also, sugar is a killer if you let it get out of hand.
Exercise 3-5 Xs weekly, watch your weight (BMI 19-24)
Stay within range of all your lab work.
Incorporate Flax oil (Barlean's) blended with cottage cheese daily.
Just like it worked for me so can it work for you.
Hang in with us & your system will reward you with improved good health.
搁补尘ó苍


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FYI

Mike,
Nothing would please me more than to have had Jose stayed the course with us.
I'm convinced that a diet change & not drugs determines good vs ill health &
death.
Strength & Health
搁补尘ó苍


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Hi Roy

Coffee will deplete the necessary 'B' vitamins used in the
conversion/elongation of the omega 3s. However if you were to
compensate for loss of 'B' vitamins or take FO/CC at a different time,
you might not 'stop the Budwig from ridding cancer'?

Rick

Roy,
I would avoid coffee. It is not in the Budwig Diet. If you want to get well on this Diet or on any nutritional program, you try to optimize in everything you eat, drink or do. Here is a website on coffee (there may be better ones):

Wilhelm


Hi
It's amazing the number ofn questions that spring to mind, I
wondered if one could drink an occasional black coffer or would this
perhaps stop the Budwig from ridding the cancer

Regards Roy

Hi
It's amazing the number ofn questions that spring to mind, I
wondered if one could drink an occasional black coffer or would this
perhaps stop the Budwig from ridding the cancer

Regards Roy

Immediately after posting my "Request for Testimony," I realized that
the "Files" section of this group contains a wealth of information--
practically exactly what I asked for, except that there are no
testimonials for melanoma.

I think, then, that you can disregard my previous post as I believe
I'll get my answers from "Files."

Many thanks.

I have enjoyed everyone's feedback for a few weeks now. Without
going into the archives to attempt to determine the answer myself, I
would like to ask the group if the majority of you are, in fact,
battling a disease or do you take flaxseed oil as a preventive
measure? Personally, I'm convinced of the efficacy of Essential
Fatty Acids to protect us from a variety of ailments and I use it for
that purpose (in my case, mild arthritis).

The reason I ask is this: I participate on a discussion board where
melanoma patients of every "stage" post their treatments--the vast
majority of which involve conventional medicine (radiation, drugs and
surgery). I mentioned that I had read quite a bit about Johanna
Budwig's alleged cure for a variety of ailments, including cancer.
Since the "treatment" is innocuous and involves a nutrient (EFA) we
need anyway, why not incorporate the Budwig Diet with the view
that "it can't hurt and might help, so why not?"

Well, you'd have thought I asked them to dance naked in Times Square
as part of their treatment. On a conventional discussion board,
you're practically drawn and quartered for endorsing (or even
suggesting) anything other than pharmaceuticals, surgery or
radiation, it appears, but that particular board is dedicated to
melanoma (my particular focus), so I continue to visit and post. Now
I'm wondering, however, how many Budwig success stories of cures for
actual diseases do we have among the 600+ members of this board?

Any feedback? Thanks.

In a message dated 8/4/2004 5:19:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
catherinecoy@... writes:

Well, you'd have thought I asked them to dance naked in Times Square
as part of their treatment.

I love it...and so true. Your point is well-taken -- if it can't hurt, and
might OH MY GOSH HELP...why not give it a go. But bring that up in the wrong
forum and you are toast. My personal situation is one of watchful waiting.
Almost two years ago, I was treated for breast cancer -- chemo, radiation,
surgery -- and am keeping the Budwig protocol on the back burner in case it is
needed. In the meantime, I take 3 T of freshly ground flax seed everyday and make
sure to get my sunlight.
Take care,
BarbF

When I have the flaxseed oil and yogurt, it takes
me a while to digest it!!! It kills my appetite.
Is that because fats take longer to digest? I
am using more yogurt than necessary. It makes
the flaxseed oil go down better. However I have
never had trouble with yogurt before so assuming
it's the flaxseed oil. I am using the lignant
type but I am not adding the actual flaxseed yet.





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This is where I red about the use of alcohol being used to transport
nutrients.

"Resveratrol :- Red Wine, Richest source – Hu Zhang or Japanese
Knotweed.
Resveratrol – research at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Centre in
1998 showed Resveratrol to be a powerful COX-2 inhibitor and an
inhibitor of cancer promotion. MSK and Cornell Medical Centre later
noted that in human breast cancer cells and malignant oral tissue,
resveratrol worked in a two fold way – it inhibited the cellular
expression of the COX-2 gene and also inhibited the actual enzyme
activity of COX-2. As breast cancer cells and usually prostate cancer
cells are hormone dependent, it is possible that resveratrol could
have a similar impact on CaP. A report from the New York Medical
College indicated that resveratrol triggered apoptosis [programmed
cell death] in Prostate Cancer cells. Unfortunately my `source' did
not indicate whether the study was in vitro or in vivo. University of
Illinois researchers reported in `Science' that resveratrol stops
cancer Initiation and Promotion and in Leukaemia it promotes
differentiation. National Univ. of Taiwan researchers found that
resveratrol stops production of NFkB which inflames tissues
surrounding the tumour. Problem for men getting stuck into the red
wine is that the alcohol provides a lot of calories – not what
you need if you are trying to restrict calories to stimulate one's
immune system. The alcohol also creates a lot of free-radicals that
can nullify other cancer fighting anti-oxidants that one might be
taking. On the other hand as one ages , the portals in the blood
vessels through the liver tend to close up making it more difficult
for large fat molecules to get through for processing in the liver.

Apparently a small amount of alcohol regularly consumed can open

up these portals .<<<<< The strategy should be no more than two
standard glasses of red wine per day and not just at one time. Spread
the wine
consumption. It is possible to obtain powdered red wine marc that has
the resveratrol and the other polyphenols but no alcohol. [ `The Red
Wine Affair' produced by Hilde Hemmes – Herbal Supplies Limited,
Ridgehaven, can be obtained through Health Shops – powder equivalent
to 74 glasses of wine for about $25.] On the other hand, men who have
forms of heart disease that include significant numbers of weakened
heart cells, should think twice about consuming significant amounts of
resveratrol. University of Minnesota researchers noted that
resveratrol tends to activate the p53 gene which acts as a sort
of `molecular patrolman' telling cells to self destruct when things
go wrong. This is great for CaP if you have a cancer where p53 is
mutated so that it does not operate properly. Unfortunately this also
just might `gee up' the p53 genes in the weakened cells in your heart
condition leading to the destruction of the cells and a massive heart
attack."
Excerpt taken from Basis behind a Dietary Approach to combating
Prostate Cancer. By John Mayes

Hope this answers more questions than it raises.
pc

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Paul Cates" <paerca@h...> wrote:

I read somewhere yesterday, that a small amount of alcholol (they
were referencing red wine) actually opened "ports" to allow better
assimulation of some nutrients. If I run into that study again, I
will post it. But I have read about the efficacy of doing so.

pc

I think that you can drink coffee. One can go overboard with all this stuff.
Some of the healthiest people in the world are the French and Japanese; the
French drink coffee and the Japanese drink tea, both of which have caffiene.
Coffee does not give people cancer.

I read somewhere yesterday, that a small amount of alcholol (they
were referencing red wine) actually opened "ports" to allow better
assimulation of some nutrients. If I run into that study again, I
will post it. But I have read about the efficacy of doing so.

pc

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...>
wrote:

Hi Mike,
how very sad that Jose passed away. He seemed to be doing so well

with your help and the Budwig Diet. But as you said previously, he
was likely to be talked into taking chemo by the doctor whom he
trusted. Well, we all have to make our choices. Thank you for sharing
his story with us.

As to your next post on this topic, I don't know the exact purpose

for using champagne in the treatment of people with advanced cancer.
All I remember reading is that Dr.Budwig said in one of her books
that she had been criticised for giving champagne to sick people, but
that it had a "serious purpose". She didn't elaborate. I assumed it
had to do with stimulating appetite, but there is probably more to
it.

Regards,
Wilhelm

PS: Mir geht es gut, danke.
I hope you are well too.


HI Group (Wie gehts Wilhelm?),

I haven't posted in a while but I thought this may be of

interest. My

friend Jose passed away last Sunday most likely due to the

effects of

a chemo-regimen his doctor talked him to getting. The Dr. swore

this

was the ONLY way he would be able to travel to Spain to see his
family. A week later the "Dr." turned him over to Hospice and

went on

vacation! Prior to this Jose was 'holding his own'. As he lay in

bed,

he reminded me of "E.T"- bony chest and arms and a big swollen

belly-

the ascites (fluid) was terrible and his testacles looked like 2

pink

water balloons.
On Friday,I knew he was dying (he couldn't eat because of all

the

narcotics they were giving him), and I thought of Dr. Budwig's
proceedure using 8 oz. of FO, some raw honey and champagne

for "in

extremis" patients. So I bought a bottle of champagne (wondering

what

the hospice people would say)and talked the nurse into letting me

see

if he would take it. She got interested and we decided to give

him 2

oz. of oil, a little honey, and about 5 oz of champagne (just

stirred

it all up in a glass- a gross looking 2-layer concoction). He did
manage to keep it down and said it tasted good! (I think I would

mix

the oil and honey-let them sip it, then give a champagne chaser-

next

time though). I left for work and the nurse said she would repeat

it

before her shift was up and tell the next nurse to continue the
proceedure. I returned about midnight and found out the other

shifts

thought this was "nuts" and stopped giving it to him- put an IV
morphine line in his arm instead- at this point there were alot

of

his friends here and I didn't say anything-just accepted this was

the

end-he died early the next day-just as I got there by the way.
Anyway, a few days later I ran into a woman who used to be a
customer of mine when I was practising community pharmacy. She

was

helping to look after Jose (as part of a mediation group Jose
belonged to). She told me that about 2 hours after the

second "dose"

of the FO/Champagne, Jose voided 1100 ML of fluid! We both
thought 'what if' we could have continued with the treatment.

Once

again Dr. Budwig's brillance astounds me. You know most people

would

look at a person in Jose's condition and say 'he's a goner', yet

I

remembered the pictures of Civil War soldiers from Andersonville

or

the liberated prisoners of Auschwitz and they looked like that

(or

worse) yet many survived. The human body is truly a remarkable
creation and when given the right nutrition is capable of

remarkable

things. Poisons beget death-I wonder why this is such an alien
concept to "learned medical minds"- a second grader can tell you

that!

Jose had 7 months (instead of 3 weeks-that he was told in

January)

and I cherish the time we got to know each other. He was a

wonderful

man (over 200 people came to the 2 memorials that where held for

him

and his family)and I certainly learned alot: about life, medicine

and

Dr. Budwig. If I ever get another opportunity to help some one

with

this protocol, I will be a better "coach" thanks to my experience
with Jose.
Regards to all, Mike

Hi Mike,
how very sad that Jose passed away. He seemed to be doing so well with your help and the Budwig Diet. But as you said previously, he was likely to be talked into taking chemo by the doctor whom he trusted. Well, we all have to make our choices. Thank you for sharing his story with us.

As to your next post on this topic, I don't know the exact purpose for using champagne in the treatment of people with advanced cancer. All I remember reading is that Dr.Budwig said in one of her books that she had been criticised for giving champagne to sick people, but that it had a "serious purpose". She didn't elaborate. I assumed it had to do with stimulating appetite, but there is probably more to it.

Regards,
Wilhelm

PS: Mir geht es gut, danke.
I hope you are well too.


HI Group (Wie gehts Wilhelm?),

I haven't posted in a while but I thought this may be of interest. My
friend Jose passed away last Sunday most likely due to the effects of
a chemo-regimen his doctor talked him to getting. The Dr. swore this
was the ONLY way he would be able to travel to Spain to see his
family. A week later the "Dr." turned him over to Hospice and went on
vacation! Prior to this Jose was 'holding his own'. As he lay in bed,
he reminded me of "E.T"- bony chest and arms and a big swollen belly-
the ascites (fluid) was terrible and his testacles looked like 2 pink
water balloons.
On Friday,I knew he was dying (he couldn't eat because of all the
narcotics they were giving him), and I thought of Dr. Budwig's
proceedure using 8 oz. of FO, some raw honey and champagne for "in
extremis" patients. So I bought a bottle of champagne (wondering what
the hospice people would say)and talked the nurse into letting me see
if he would take it. She got interested and we decided to give him 2
oz. of oil, a little honey, and about 5 oz of champagne (just stirred
it all up in a glass- a gross looking 2-layer concoction). He did
manage to keep it down and said it tasted good! (I think I would mix
the oil and honey-let them sip it, then give a champagne chaser-next
time though). I left for work and the nurse said she would repeat it
before her shift was up and tell the next nurse to continue the
proceedure. I returned about midnight and found out the other shifts
thought this was "nuts" and stopped giving it to him- put an IV
morphine line in his arm instead- at this point there were alot of
his friends here and I didn't say anything-just accepted this was the
end-he died early the next day-just as I got there by the way.
Anyway, a few days later I ran into a woman who used to be a
customer of mine when I was practising community pharmacy. She was
helping to look after Jose (as part of a mediation group Jose
belonged to). She told me that about 2 hours after the second "dose"
of the FO/Champagne, Jose voided 1100 ML of fluid! We both
thought 'what if' we could have continued with the treatment. Once
again Dr. Budwig's brillance astounds me. You know most people would
look at a person in Jose's condition and say 'he's a goner', yet I
remembered the pictures of Civil War soldiers from Andersonville or
the liberated prisoners of Auschwitz and they looked like that (or
worse) yet many survived. The human body is truly a remarkable
creation and when given the right nutrition is capable of remarkable
things. Poisons beget death-I wonder why this is such an alien
concept to "learned medical minds"- a second grader can tell you that!
Jose had 7 months (instead of 3 weeks-that he was told in January)
and I cherish the time we got to know each other. He was a wonderful
man (over 200 people came to the 2 memorials that where held for him
and his family)and I certainly learned alot: about life, medicine and
Dr. Budwig. If I ever get another opportunity to help some one with
this protocol, I will be a better "coach" thanks to my experience
with Jose.
Regards to all, Mike

After more study on CLA in the diet, I have decided not to add it to
my list of supplements.

My Doctor was the one that suggested it.

Going back and researching it further, I find that is not necessary
to human consumption and might even be harmful. I had previously read
a report from Udo Erasmus, that CLA would create a balance in the
Omega 3 - Omega 6 faster (in the good direction) and that sounded
good. Since then, I have read reports that it may act differently in
humans than the animal studies done. I would hate for it to deter the
progress already made by the FO/CC and I am returning to suggested
levels of fo/cc and fs and without CLA.

pc