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Re: male breast cancer
In a message dated 7/23/04 1:55:26 AM, wilhelmh@... writes:
You are right to inform yourself about your options before deciding whichThis may sound like a stupid question, but is Tamoxifen the same thing as chemotherapy? or is it entirely different? dorothy |
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Faxseed freshly ground
robert farkas
Wilhem, I was wondering how much of the nutritional
aspect would be lost between grounding the flax at home and the flax that has been ground and freshly sealed in a tin from a grower? Also is the golden seed superoir, that is has more lignans, than the brown seed, as my supplier hee in Australia informed me? Thank you love Anna Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. |
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Re: male breast cancer
Wilhelm Hansen
Hi Rebecca,
welcome to the group. You are right to inform yourself about your options before deciding which way to go. Here are two sites on chemo: Have you checked out our testimonials? If not go to our Yahoo site and click on 'Files' on the left, or just click on this link: You will see several entries for breast cancer. You will also find other information on the Budwig Diet in the files. You may find Cheryl's recent post (Msg # 20408) interesting: "I truly feel that you should not worry about the growth hormone problem. HER2Nu (estrogen positive) breast cancer patients respond exactly the same to the protocol as non-HER2 patients. My sister had HER2Nu positive breast cancer along with 2 other people in our group. Their response to the fo/cc protocol was exactly the same as the non- HER2 patients. One thing I need to add is that they are using I3C or DIM (indole 3 carbonol) as well. There are various studies supporting the fact that I3C or DIM is beneficial if you have a hormone sensitive cancer." The story of Cheryl's sister is in our testimonials. Wilhelm Hello I am a new member of the group, I am English and I live in France. My husband has just had a mastectomy for an invasive ductal carcinoma with four out of 20 lymph glands positive , it was eostrogen and progesterone highly positive... his surgeon wants him to see an oncologist to start chemo and radio therapy... I always thought these things were poisons!!! We are very reluctabt to agree until we know a bit more and I was wondering if there are any other breast cancer sufferers on the group who would be prepared to tell me something about their experiences,,, and whether they have made the five year mark with no recurrance on anything as simple as Budwig and diet? Rebecca |
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male breast cancer
tewesday
Hello
I am a new member of the group, I am English and I live in France. My husband has just had a mastectomy for an invasive ductal carcinoma with four out of 20 lymph glands positive , it was eostrogen and progesterone highly positive... his surgeon wants him to see an oncologist to start chemo and radio therapy... I always thought these things were poisons!!! We are very reluctabt to agree until we know a bit more and I was wondering if there are any other breast cancer sufferers on the group who would be prepared to tell me something about their experiences,,, and whether they have made the five year mark with no recurrance on anything as simple as Budwig and diet? Rebecca |
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Re: Mercola
P. Thomas
Hi Cliff,
I actually sent a message to Mercola regarding flaxseed oil and the Budwig Protocol back in February in response to another article he wrote regarding flaxseed oil. Here is a copy of my email and the response I received. Pat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From:Pat Thomas <pt50@...> Date:Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:58 AM To:support@... <support@...> Subject:Contact Page Dear Dr. Mercola, Though I am not a patient of yours I am an avid reader and subscriber to your newsletter and have recently purchased your book. I just finished reading your article on flaxseed and wanted to share some information I came across during my research on the subject. In your article you quoted, "I don't recommend the use of flaxseed oil however, particularly because of its instability. Five years ago, I used to recommend it to nearly all my patients and I noticed the majority of them could not tolerate it. This is despite the fact that they were using two of the best brands of flax oil in the country (Omega Flow and Barleans). I came to the conclusion that the nausea they were experiencing was a giant clue from their body and subsequently concluded that most people do not do well with flaxseed oil, which is why I no longer recommend it." I turned up a study by Dr. Johanna Budwig from Germany who blends flaxseed oil with cottage cheese which makes the mixture extremely tolerable and digestable. Taking a quote from an article regarding the mixture, "The reason for the mixture of the oil with a high quality protein is that by combining the protein with the oil, the oil becomes water soluble in the body and can be absorbed more readily. It can enter the smallest capillaries, dissolving any of the undesirable fats and cleaning out the veins and arteries. It also strengthens the heart, dissolves tumors and cures arthritis." There is a great deal of information about her on the Internet. She has had two of her books translated into English, Flax Oil As a True Aid Against Arthritis Heart Infarction Cancer and Other Diseases and The Oil Protein Diet Cookbook I thought you might be interested in learning more about her work. I personally am dealing with stage 3 breast cancer. Right now I am under the care of an alternative healthcare practitioner here in La Crosse and receiving support from my onocologist about not going the chemo route. He recently had my tumor rechecked for the HER-2 protein and found that I do have an overabundance of the receptors on the cancer cells. After I finish my dextox program with my practitioner I will discuss the option of using Herceptin alone for the management of the cancer cells. I was originally diagnosed ER/PR-negative, Node negative, grade 3 in Jan 2003. I went through a lumpectomy and radiation. I had a relapse in Oct 2003 with one lymph node in the upper chest with no other symptoms or findings. This changed my status from T2 N0 M0 to T2 N3 M0 based on their new staging system. I know with the help and support I am receiving from my doctors and the research I uncover in non-toxic ways of dealing with cancer I will be able to put it in remission and lead a good healthy life. I have two children, 12 & 15, and I would like to see them grow up and make me a grandmother. Sincerely, Pat Thomas From:Mercola.com Support Date:Monday, February23, 2004 4:35PM To:Pat Thomas Subject:Re: Contact Page Hello, Thank you very much for the feedback. I will make sure this information is looked into and perhaps Dr. Mercola will comment on it in the future. Thanks, Conor Mercola.com Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I am happy to say, Cliff, that I am doing well with no signs of new tumors and my blood work shows no signs of distress. My onocologist has put off starting me on Herceptin (test show I am HER/2 positive) until there are positive signs of cancer activity. I have my CC/FO over a bowl of mixed berries with a couple tbls of ground flax seed every morning. Eat as close to an organic diet as possible and use various supplements to address my condition. I get plenty of sleep and excerise regularly. I am happy and I feel healthy. It will be a real kicker to become that grandmother I want to be in about 10 years! Pat --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Cliff Beckwith <cliffb865@f...> wrote: Hi Pat,how people believe most of what an authority says, even though the |
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Re: Strange personal email supposedly from this site
Hi Sandra, it is very likely that this is a virus sent from a third-party computer infested with the virus, and that the apparent address is spoofed / taken from that infested computer's address book... btw, to be on the perfectly safe side, please NEVER open attachments if you didn't expect to be sent something even if you know the person... I admit I do open occasional "surprise" attachments sent to me by friends but this is mostly due to these attachments containing things specifically targeting my interests and it seems highly unlikely to me that a virus program is smart enough to even tailor the "attachment" (containing just the virus) to my specific interests (considering that viruses automatically send themselves to thousands and thousands of addresses)...
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Ulla you wrote: I received a personal email with an attachment this evening and in the subject line, it had the words, "Re: [FlaxseedOil2] Re: low fat" |
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Re: Progress Report
Steve Taylor
Hi Mike,
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Here's how the pressure works: Bob goes to the oncologist to get his PSAs and bone scans. The doctor always prescribes something "that will slow the cancer down," and if Bob does not take the meds or shots, his family feels like he is being reckless. Afterall, it is asking a lot to believe that FO/CC can be more effective than the doctor's high-priced pharma-brews. Also, the doctors never send you home to die without a prescription. And regardless how poorly the patient is responding to the chemo and/or hormone thereapy, the doctor meerely says that it would be much worse without the meds. That's how the pressure works. Steve ----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Dorfman To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Progress Report Steve, thanks for the update on Bob's condition. Very interesting. I am confused though on one point, and maybe you or someone else on this forum can shed some light. As I understand it the main sequence of events were: 1) Bob was sent home to die by the mainstream docs, 2) Bob initiated the Budwig protocol plus a very rigorous complemtary dietary and supplement regime, 3) not long after Bob began the changes in "#2", he began to feel much better, YET 4) his family and docs are pressuring him to continue with treatment that the docs themselves had previously given up on !!!! WHY ?? In particular, why is the family pressuring him to continue a treatment, especially the chemo, that was medically acknowledged to not be helping him ? Pardon my probable obtuseness, but that's what I'm confused about. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Taylor" <steve@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Progress Report > Hi group! > > I have been reporting my friend's status for the past several months, and a new report is due: > > Bob started the Budwig protocol in late March of this year after being given up for dead by his oncologist. His metz to 5 different regions of bone (prostate cancer with Gleason of 8, stage IV) were deemed untreatable by his oncologist, and he was told to "get his affairs in order." At the time, Bob was in pain and severely depressed. He called me with what I would have to say was a "Farewell" call. And after we talked, I got on the internet to see what I could find in the way of alternative therapies. It was an awesome job to sort the wheat from the chaff, but when I found Cliff Beckwith's homepage and then this group, I was encouraged. To make a long story short, I encouraged Bob to begin the Budwig protocol along with some embellishments that I felt could not hurt. > > Bob's most recent bone scan (July 14th) showed that his bone involvement showed only "mild" enlargement (minimal), which was surprising to everyone (doctors) familiar with his case. Quite frankly, no one expected him to be around for a bone scan at this late stage. So something is working. > > It is important to note that Bob has no pain and is in excellent physical shape. He visited me in Colorado in early June, and we climbed a 1,000 vertical assent mountain and rode horses extensively. At age 67, most men without cancer could not do what Bob did. > > Now Bob is at a critical juncture, where he must decide whether to cave to family pressure and consent to another 4-month Lupron shot and other chemo-therapy recommendations made by his doctors, or drop all of the traditional therapies and opt for the modified Budwig protocol. The jury is still out. I will let you know what he decides. > > I do not "advise" in these areas. I merely report information that I find on the internet, but even this is rife with complexities as I cannot report "everything," so what I pass on is obviously filtered through my prejudicial process . . . a heavy burden that! > > All-in-all I feel like I am witnessing a miracle of sorts: Bob goes dancing at least 2 nights a week, rides his bike for 50 miles a week, and does all of the farm chores he ever did when he didn't have cancer. So something is turning things around for Bob, and I cannot believe it is anything other than the cornerstone of his alternative treatment, FO/CC and the rest of the Budwig protocol. > > For anyone interested, the following is Bob's daily dietary program: > > 6 tbsp low fat organic cottage cheese (CC) mixed (hand blender) with 3 tbsp of Barleans refrigerated flax seed oil (FO) > 1 cup diced fresh tomatoes > 2 tbsp fresh ground (he grinds them just before injesting) flax seeds (FS) > The FS, CC, FO & diced tomatoes are all mixed together and eaten. He does this 3 times daily. > > 1 or 2 mangoes daily > 1 banana daily > > 550 miligram capsule (mg) Saw Palmetto with 10mg Lycopene capsule 6 each per day > 450 mg Rasberry Extract, 6 capsules per day > 550 mg Ginger capsule, 12 capsules per day > 400 mg Turmeric (Curcumin, extract from ginger root), 6 capsules per day > 400iu Vitamin E, 2 capsules per day > 630 mg Calcium with 400iu Vitamin D (Citrical), 1 capsule per day > > 1/2 thumb (approximate size) of fresh ginger chopped finely > 2 oz sea water > 6 oz fresh orange juice > Mix ginger, sea water, and oj and chug-a-lug twice daily > > The rest of Bob's diet consists of 70% raw vegetables and 30% cooked vegetables. > Whole fruit as desired > No meat, fish, chicken, dairy (except for the cottage cheese) or eggs . . . strict vegan diet. > No sugar. > All water is distilled. > > The diet is combined with stair-stepper and bicycle riding for exercise, and he makes a point of getting a minimum of 30 minutes exposure to unfiltered sunlight (outdoors, not filtered through glass (windows)). He uses no sun block while in the sun. > > Bob is scheduled for another bone scan in October. I will report the results at that time. > > Steve > > > > > > > Note: > The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Strange personal email supposedly from this site
I received a personal email with an attachment this evening and in the
subject line, it had the words, "Re: [FlaxseedOil2] Re: low fat" The sender's email address was "MacTheKnife@...". The message had just two lines and was signed "Ray Mackie." I didn't recall seeing that name in the list and I checked the member profile but it wasn't there either. So, I didn't open the 97K attachment. I don't know whether this person is sending out a virus attachment to people on this list or what the point of the email is. Has anyone else received one of these emails or heard of this person? Sandra |
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Re: Budwig diet
Wilhelm Hansen
According to food tables, Ricotta cheese is very fat (8% to 13%) and it is also lower in sulphurated proteins than cottage cheese.
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From: mike13850 To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:41 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Budwig diet Can you use Ricotta cheese instead of cottage cheese? It seems to blend much better. |
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Re: Progress Report
Michael Dorfman
Steve,
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thanks for the update on Bob's condition. Very interesting. I am confused though on one point, and maybe you or someone else on this forum can shed some light. As I understand it the main sequence of events were: 1) Bob was sent home to die by the mainstream docs, 2) Bob initiated the Budwig protocol plus a very rigorous complemtary dietary and supplement regime, 3) not long after Bob began the changes in "#2", he began to feel much better, YET 4) his family and docs are pressuring him to continue with treatment that the docs themselves had previously given up on !!!! WHY ?? In particular, why is the family pressuring him to continue a treatment, especially the chemo, that was medically acknowledged to not be helping him ? Pardon my probable obtuseness, but that's what I'm confused about. Thanks ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Taylor" <steve@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Progress Report Hi group!a new report is due: given up for dead by his oncologist. His metz to 5 different regions of bone (prostate cancer with Gleason of 8, stage IV) were deemed untreatable by his oncologist, and he was told to "get his affairs in order." At the time, Bob was in pain and severely depressed. He called me with what I would have to say was a "Farewell" call. And after we talked, I got on the internet to see what I could find in the way of alternative therapies. It was an awesome job to sort the wheat from the chaff, but when I found Cliff Beckwith's homepage and then this group, I was encouraged. To make a long story short, I encouraged Bob to begin the Budwig protocol along with some embellishments that I felt could not hurt. showed only "mild" enlargement (minimal), which was surprising to everyone (doctors) familiar with his case. Quite frankly, no one expected him to be around for a bone scan at this late stage. So something is working. shape. He visited me in Colorado in early June, and we climbed a 1,000 vertical assent mountain and rode horses extensively. At age 67, most men without cancer could not do what Bob did. family pressure and consent to another 4-month Lupron shot and other chemo-therapy recommendations made by his doctors, or drop all of the traditional therapies and opt for the modified Budwig protocol. The jury is still out. I will let you know what he decides. on the internet, but even this is rife with complexities as I cannot report "everything," so what I pass on is obviously filtered through my prejudicial process . . . a heavy burden that! dancing at least 2 nights a week, rides his bike for 50 miles a week, and does all of the farm chores he ever did when he didn't have cancer. So something is turning things around for Bob, and I cannot believe it is anything other than the cornerstone of his alternative treatment, FO/CC and the rest of the Budwig protocol. tbsp of Barleans refrigerated flax seed oil (FO) 1 cup diced fresh tomatoesthis 3 times daily. per day 450 mg Rasberry Extract, 6 capsules per dayvegetables. Whole fruit as desired. strict vegan diet. No sugar.and he makes a point of getting a minimum of 30 minutes exposure to unfiltered sunlight (outdoors, not filtered through glass (windows)). He uses no sun block while in the sun. results at that time. not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Vegetarian diet ?
Delano Eaton
I just bought the Sunshine burgers and the ingredients are: Organic
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ground raw sun-flower seeds, Organic brown rice, organic carrots, organic herbs and sea salt. I don't think I will be able to eat them but they may be a change for my grandson. Del "smoon235" wrote: --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "MsKatlee" <ms.katlee@v...> wrote:Great pointers, Simon! Do the Sunshine Burgers list soy orlecithin as an ingredient?? |
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Progress Report
Steve Taylor
Hi group!
I have been reporting my friend's status for the past several months, and a new report is due: Bob started the Budwig protocol in late March of this year after being given up for dead by his oncologist. His metz to 5 different regions of bone (prostate cancer with Gleason of 8, stage IV) were deemed untreatable by his oncologist, and he was told to "get his affairs in order." At the time, Bob was in pain and severely depressed. He called me with what I would have to say was a "Farewell" call. And after we talked, I got on the internet to see what I could find in the way of alternative therapies. It was an awesome job to sort the wheat from the chaff, but when I found Cliff Beckwith's homepage and then this group, I was encouraged. To make a long story short, I encouraged Bob to begin the Budwig protocol along with some embellishments that I felt could not hurt. Bob's most recent bone scan (July 14th) showed that his bone involvement showed only "mild" enlargement (minimal), which was surprising to everyone (doctors) familiar with his case. Quite frankly, no one expected him to be around for a bone scan at this late stage. So something is working. It is important to note that Bob has no pain and is in excellent physical shape. He visited me in Colorado in early June, and we climbed a 1,000 vertical assent mountain and rode horses extensively. At age 67, most men without cancer could not do what Bob did. Now Bob is at a critical juncture, where he must decide whether to cave to family pressure and consent to another 4-month Lupron shot and other chemo-therapy recommendations made by his doctors, or drop all of the traditional therapies and opt for the modified Budwig protocol. The jury is still out. I will let you know what he decides. I do not "advise" in these areas. I merely report information that I find on the internet, but even this is rife with complexities as I cannot report "everything," so what I pass on is obviously filtered through my prejudicial process . . . a heavy burden that! All-in-all I feel like I am witnessing a miracle of sorts: Bob goes dancing at least 2 nights a week, rides his bike for 50 miles a week, and does all of the farm chores he ever did when he didn't have cancer. So something is turning things around for Bob, and I cannot believe it is anything other than the cornerstone of his alternative treatment, FO/CC and the rest of the Budwig protocol. For anyone interested, the following is Bob's daily dietary program: 6 tbsp low fat organic cottage cheese (CC) mixed (hand blender) with 3 tbsp of Barleans refrigerated flax seed oil (FO) 1 cup diced fresh tomatoes 2 tbsp fresh ground (he grinds them just before injesting) flax seeds (FS) The FS, CC, FO & diced tomatoes are all mixed together and eaten. He does this 3 times daily. 1 or 2 mangoes daily 1 banana daily 550 miligram capsule (mg) Saw Palmetto with 10mg Lycopene capsule 6 each per day 450 mg Rasberry Extract, 6 capsules per day 550 mg Ginger capsule, 12 capsules per day 400 mg Turmeric (Curcumin, extract from ginger root), 6 capsules per day 400iu Vitamin E, 2 capsules per day 630 mg Calcium with 400iu Vitamin D (Citrical), 1 capsule per day 1/2 thumb (approximate size) of fresh ginger chopped finely 2 oz sea water 6 oz fresh orange juice Mix ginger, sea water, and oj and chug-a-lug twice daily The rest of Bob's diet consists of 70% raw vegetables and 30% cooked vegetables. Whole fruit as desired No meat, fish, chicken, dairy (except for the cottage cheese) or eggs . . . strict vegan diet. No sugar. All water is distilled. The diet is combined with stair-stepper and bicycle riding for exercise, and he makes a point of getting a minimum of 30 minutes exposure to unfiltered sunlight (outdoors, not filtered through glass (windows)). He uses no sun block while in the sun. Bob is scheduled for another bone scan in October. I will report the results at that time. Steve |
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Re: Vegetarian diet ?
--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "MsKatlee" <ms.katlee@v...> wrote:
Great pointers, Simon! Do the Sunshine Burgers list soy orlecithin as an ingredient?? As far as I know, they are soy, dairy and GMO free. Yeah, I love nuts too, but don't really have the teeth for them. Soaking is a great way to still eat them :) nd ready to use ! If anyone is interested I can look up the exactPlease do post the details for this method. Thanks, Simon |
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Re: Who has had sucess with Fo/CC
Delano Eaton
Bori,
Also in the files are experiences that members have already written up. The files are full of good info. Hope this helps, Del Boricua wrote: Wondering about those who have had sucess with FO/CC, Can you shareyour experiences?
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Re: how much do i eat during the day
Delano Eaton
Bori,
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This is copied from our files: Linomel Linomel is flax seed cracked between honey coated surfaces. This coats the flaxseed particles with honey and retards oxidation. A bit of milk powder is also added. Freshly ground flaxseeds can be used as an alternative. You might want to find and buy "The Oil And Protein Diet" by Dr Budwig as it has all the recipes. I found mine on ebay for about $7.00 plus shipping. Boricua wrote: What is Linomel, where can I buy it? |
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