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In the Budwig diet, can FSO be substituted for olive oil in salad dressings?


Re: Navarro Clinic

 


I am fairly certain that the FDA would not allow this on US soil as it would impact big pharma negatively. Dr. Navarro lives in the US, but the tests are still done in PI to avoid FDA scrutiny I expect. I also would imagine that they are pretty guarded of the formula. I also emailed them a while back and got no reply.

Rod in MN/USA
On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 06:25:37 AM CST, Ron Muscella via groups.io <romus1@...> wrote:


Cannot understand why this procedure cannot be done in the US or Europe...the technology surely must be there.
Unless Big Pharma does not want it and will shut it down thru legal matters.

On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 08:59:26 PM EST, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:


I have been wondering the same. It would be nice to be able to send in a sample a couple of times a year just to stay ahead of a possible recurrence. I gotta think it is more than just supply chain issues, after such a long time. Meanwhile, we wonder.

Rod in MN/USA
On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 02:57:29 PM CST, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:


Hello, Everyone. This is a long-shot, but does anyone have any info on the status of the Navarro Clinic? Their test has been unavailable since 4/2022 due to supply chain issues. While those issues may still exist for them, I also seem to recall some other issues in the Phillipines since then.?

Thank you for any info anyone can provide. I'm just hoping they are able to "go live" again.


Re: Navarro Clinic

Ron Muscella
 

Cannot understand why this procedure cannot be done in the US or Europe...the technology surely must be there.
Unless Big Pharma does not want it and will shut it down thru legal matters.

On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 08:59:26 PM EST, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:


I have been wondering the same. It would be nice to be able to send in a sample a couple of times a year just to stay ahead of a possible recurrence. I gotta think it is more than just supply chain issues, after such a long time. Meanwhile, we wonder.

Rod in MN/USA
On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 02:57:29 PM CST, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:


Hello, Everyone. This is a long-shot, but does anyone have any info on the status of the Navarro Clinic? Their test has been unavailable since 4/2022 due to supply chain issues. While those issues may still exist for them, I also seem to recall some other issues in the Phillipines since then.?

Thank you for any info anyone can provide. I'm just hoping they are able to "go live" again.


Re: Navarro Clinic

 

I do not have any information , but I have emailed them and no response.?
Jenny



On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:54 PM, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:
Hello, Everyone. This is a long-shot, but does anyone have any info on the status of the Navarro Clinic? Their test has been unavailable since 4/2022 due to supply chain issues. While those issues may still exist for them, I also seem to recall some other issues in the Phillipines since then.?

Thank you for any info anyone can provide. I'm just hoping they are able to "go live" again.


Re: Navarro Clinic

 

I have been wondering the same. It would be nice to be able to send in a sample a couple of times a year just to stay ahead of a possible recurrence. I gotta think it is more than just supply chain issues, after such a long time. Meanwhile, we wonder.

Rod in MN/USA
On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 02:57:29 PM CST, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:


Hello, Everyone. This is a long-shot, but does anyone have any info on the status of the Navarro Clinic? Their test has been unavailable since 4/2022 due to supply chain issues. While those issues may still exist for them, I also seem to recall some other issues in the Phillipines since then.?

Thank you for any info anyone can provide. I'm just hoping they are able to "go live" again.


Navarro Clinic

 

Hello, Everyone. This is a long-shot, but does anyone have any info on the status of the Navarro Clinic? Their test has been unavailable since 4/2022 due to supply chain issues. While those issues may still exist for them, I also seem to recall some other issues in the Phillipines since then.?

Thank you for any info anyone can provide. I'm just hoping they are able to "go live" again.


Re: Immersion blender

 

A 24 ounce cottage cheese container works perfectly.

On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 05:24:34 PM CST, Ron Muscella via groups.io <romus1@...> wrote:


Rod,?
I use a 16- ounce glass beer mug with a handle....easy..,,stick blender fits right in.
Then eat the FOCC straight from the mug.
Been doing it like that for 10 years now.
i wash the mug afterwards, then return it to the fridge....so it is cold for the next serving.
Ron


On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 05:45:10 PM EST, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:


I don't understand, Dean. The blades will lift the contents and blend them, but a bowl is a poor vessel for this. The hand blender I originally used came with a measuring and mixing cup that is cylindrical and just a itte larger than the blender. A standard 2-cup measuring cup works well also.

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 03:46:28 PM CST, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:


Rod I think with the small quantities in FOCC, the blades in a blender might not reach the contents of the bowl.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 3:35?PM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:
The oil and cottage cheese have to be whipped together to be mixed at the molecular level. I don't think it is possible to do that with a spoon. Curious as to why not use a blender?

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 02:34:50 PM CST, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:


Is it necessary to use an immersion blender for the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture or can it just be stirred really well until the oil cannot be seen?

Thanks!


Re: Immersion blender

 

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It is not possible to blend the cottage cheese and oil properly without a blender. ?I hade tried while on vacation. ?The only thing that works to blend by hand is Greek yogurt. ?It easily blends and has the proper protein ratio: that is what I use on vacation¡­but always cottage cheese with an immersion when at home ?

On Nov 18, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:

?
Is it necessary to use an immersion blender for the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture or can it just be stirred really well until the oil cannot be seen?

Thanks!


Re: Immersion blender

Ron Muscella
 

Rod,?
I use a 16- ounce glass beer mug with a handle....easy..,,stick blender fits right in.
Then eat the FOCC straight from the mug.
Been doing it like that for 10 years now.
i wash the mug afterwards, then return it to the fridge....so it is cold for the next serving.
Ron


On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 05:45:10 PM EST, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:


I don't understand, Dean. The blades will lift the contents and blend them, but a bowl is a poor vessel for this. The hand blender I originally used came with a measuring and mixing cup that is cylindrical and just a itte larger than the blender. A standard 2-cup measuring cup works well also.

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 03:46:28 PM CST, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:


Rod I think with the small quantities in FOCC, the blades in a blender might not reach the contents of the bowl.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 3:35?PM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:
The oil and cottage cheese have to be whipped together to be mixed at the molecular level. I don't think it is possible to do that with a spoon. Curious as to why not use a blender?

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 02:34:50 PM CST, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:


Is it necessary to use an immersion blender for the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture or can it just be stirred really well until the oil cannot be seen?

Thanks!


Re: Immersion blender

 

Yes Rod, a hand blender may work.? Sorry, I was picturing a stand mixer.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 4:45?PM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:
I don't understand, Dean. The blades will lift the contents and blend them, but a bowl is a poor vessel for this. The hand blender I originally used came with a measuring and mixing cup that is cylindrical and just a itte larger than the blender. A standard 2-cup measuring cup works well also.

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 03:46:28 PM CST, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:


Rod I think with the small quantities in FOCC, the blades in a blender might not reach the contents of the bowl.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 3:35?PM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:
The oil and cottage cheese have to be whipped together to be mixed at the molecular level. I don't think it is possible to do that with a spoon. Curious as to why not use a blender?

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 02:34:50 PM CST, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:


Is it necessary to use an immersion blender for the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture or can it just be stirred really well until the oil cannot be seen?

Thanks!


Re: Immersion blender

 

I don't understand, Dean. The blades will lift the contents and blend them, but a bowl is a poor vessel for this. The hand blender I originally used came with a measuring and mixing cup that is cylindrical and just a itte larger than the blender. A standard 2-cup measuring cup works well also.

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 03:46:28 PM CST, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:


Rod I think with the small quantities in FOCC, the blades in a blender might not reach the contents of the bowl.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 3:35?PM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:
The oil and cottage cheese have to be whipped together to be mixed at the molecular level. I don't think it is possible to do that with a spoon. Curious as to why not use a blender?

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 02:34:50 PM CST, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:


Is it necessary to use an immersion blender for the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture or can it just be stirred really well until the oil cannot be seen?

Thanks!


Re: Immersion blender

 

I translated the below from her German work, Johanna Budwig, Photoelements (Resch Verlag. Innsbruck, 1979) p. 160-161.

"The correct preparation of the quark & linseed oil mixture is dependent on this combination. For one person, use 100 grams of quark, plus 40 grams of linseed [flax] oil and 25 grams of milk. These proportions are stirred well, so that oil is no longer visible. This is achieved most quickly and effortlessly with one device like the Starmix, though manual cream rackets are suitable."

What I think she means by a "manual cream rackets" is either one of those rotary egg beaters or a simple balloon whisk. A starmix is similar to our present-day table top electric blender.

doug

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 2:34?PM Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:
Is it necessary to use an immersion blender for the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture or can it just be stirred really well until the oil cannot be seen?

Thanks!


Re: Immersion blender

 

Rod I think with the small quantities in FOCC, the blades in a blender might not reach the contents of the bowl.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 3:35?PM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:
The oil and cottage cheese have to be whipped together to be mixed at the molecular level. I don't think it is possible to do that with a spoon. Curious as to why not use a blender?

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 02:34:50 PM CST, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:


Is it necessary to use an immersion blender for the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture or can it just be stirred really well until the oil cannot be seen?

Thanks!


Re: Immersion blender

 

The oil and cottage cheese have to be whipped together to be mixed at the molecular level. I don't think it is possible to do that with a spoon. Curious as to why not use a blender?

Rod in MN/USA
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 02:34:50 PM CST, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:


Is it necessary to use an immersion blender for the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture or can it just be stirred really well until the oil cannot be seen?

Thanks!


Immersion blender

 

Is it necessary to use an immersion blender for the flaxseed oil/cottage cheese mixture or can it just be stirred really well until the oil cannot be seen?

Thanks!


Re: Vitamin D supplementation in winter

 

Hello All,

Thank you very much.

I'm glad you're here.


Best Wishes,

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Re: Lactose-free cottage cheese

 


We all know how Dr B felt about anything that was processed. She always claimed that she never had a patient who couldn't process the quark, even those with dairy issues. I would think that as long as the protein content is sufficient it should be okay, but that is an opinion.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 03:17:37 PM CST, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:


Rod, I have the same concern.? But from what I can tell they don't so much "remove" it as they break it down.? Here's one thing I saw written about it:

"The process of making lactose-free cottage cheese involves breaking down lactose, the natural sugar found in milk, into simpler sugars that are more easily digestible for individuals who are lactose intolerant. Here are the general steps involved: The addition of lactase to the milk helps predigest the lactose, making it easier for individuals with lactose intolerance to tolerate the product."

Apparently fermenting dairy - as in making yogurt or kefir - will also significantly reduce lactose. So I'd say it looks promising!!


On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 10:53?AM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:
This is an interestin question. One would think that by removing the "milk sugar" it would be better, but any time you remove something it changes the profile of the substance and you may be losing other elements that are beneficial to the protocol. I don't have an answer, and am curious as well.

Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 04:11:42 AM CST, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:


I see that one can buy lactose-free cottage cheese.? Is there any reason this would not work in the Budwig diet?? Sandra?


Re: Vitamin D supplementation in winter

 

I agree with Rod. Certain vitamins may be helpful. Vitamin D is one of them. Buy a high-quality brand. K2 is a vitamin that helps move calcium into your bones as well as helping with D. Taking a few supplements that you believe you need can be helpful as long as they are well made.

Kind regards,
Sandra


Re: Vitamin D supplementation in winter

 

I also take vitamin D. 10k IU a day until my blood level was up to 70 as per the bill Henderson book. 5k IU after to maintain levels. I live in upstate NY.?


On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:56 AM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io
<s4sindus@...> wrote:

Absolutely supplement with vitamin D. I do all year 'round as I have always had a hard time finding time to sunbathe. Even if sunbathing, I would supplement vitamid D. I took 10k - 15k IU while actively on the protocol and still take 5k IU every morning. One should also supplement with k2 as it helps the body with the D. I also take zinc every day at the same time.

Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 08:32:15 AM CST, ²Ñ¨¹³¦²¹³ó¾±³Ù <mucoti@...> wrote:


Hello,

Winter is coming and the days of sunbathing will be fewer and fewer. ?The Budwig diet does not favor supplements. Should we take vitamin D supplements? Ms. Sandra, can you guide me on this?

Thank you,

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Re: Lactose-free cottage cheese

 

Rod, I have the same concern.? But from what I can tell they don't so much "remove" it as they break it down.? Here's one thing I saw written about it:

"The process of making lactose-free cottage cheese involves breaking down lactose, the natural sugar found in milk, into simpler sugars that are more easily digestible for individuals who are lactose intolerant. Here are the general steps involved: The addition of lactase to the milk helps predigest the lactose, making it easier for individuals with lactose intolerance to tolerate the product."

Apparently fermenting dairy - as in making yogurt or kefir - will also significantly reduce lactose. So I'd say it looks promising!!


On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 10:53?AM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:
This is an interestin question. One would think that by removing the "milk sugar" it would be better, but any time you remove something it changes the profile of the substance and you may be losing other elements that are beneficial to the protocol. I don't have an answer, and am curious as well.

Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 04:11:42 AM CST, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:


I see that one can buy lactose-free cottage cheese.? Is there any reason this would not work in the Budwig diet?? Sandra?