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Re"Questions/opinions/Flaxseedoil/coconut gp


Milpara
 

Hi Cliff and all,
You are absolutely correct on your assessment, Cliff. There are a few items
i would like to add...I feel that Flax oil may oftentimes not be prepared
correctly at the manufactring level or it may go rancid due to poor
conditions in shipping or in storage. Light and heat also are detrimental to
its freshness and goodness. I have tried many oils and at this time
gravitate towards Barleans because of their freshness policy. I also found a
very good Austrian one here in Taiwan and buy it when I can because it is
very tastey. Some New Zealand and Australian ones are also available here,
but they contain 'high lignans" and cost considerably more. I like to get.
my high lignans for freshly ground up Flaxseeds which I add to my Dr. Budwig
combination.

Having said this, it goes without saying that fresh flaxseed oil is best
and , IMHO,what only should be used in the Dr. Budwig combination of Flaxseed
oil and organic low fat quark [or low fat cottage cheese or low fat yoghurt,
etc.]. A word about using Flaxseed oil alone: I know that Dr. Budwig has
warned us about using Flaxseed Oil alone because as you should aptly put it
" it can have the opposite effect," and I recall that Dr. Roehm put it in
his paper on Flaxseed Oil. However, I believe this is for the very ill
people who are trying to recover their health.( against tumors?).

Dr. Budwig does advocate using about 2-3 tablespoons of FlaxOil on
salads, some examples, #61, #64 or even a cup #65. (See her "Oil-Protein
Diet Cookbook." [ This should spark some discussion on this subject.].

However, when Flaxseed oil is combined with sulferated dairy
protein, it makes the unsaturated fat in the Flaxseed oil ""water soluble".
This makes it possible for the Omega 3 to enter the bloodstream directly and
give the body what is sorrily missing due to the "inertfoods" which we are
eating. It is here where the difference is about using an oil on its own or
combined with the sulferated protein of the dairy product for maximum
benefit to health. I repeat again that I only use flaxseed oil combined with
low fat organic yoghurt or low fat cottage cheese, which I try to make or
when possible buy in a health food store. Then I always add some Food Grade
3 % H2O2 to the dairy when I open up the bottle. This is to kill some bad
bacteria and also to extend the life of the dairy product in the
refrigerator.

Today, I prepared the Dr. Budwig combination. My homemade Low fat cottage
cheese/yoghurt had a very sour, sharp taste. I added some colloidal silver
( about 30 mls) and the sharpness and sour taste disappeared. I experiment
whenever I can to rid the dairy of bad bacteria with either the H2O2 or the
Colloidal Silver.

Lastly, let me say that the Coconut list is a good list and I love Coconut
Oil [and even Palm Oil which they do not sell.] They do however sell coconut
oil and sometimes I feel that they are a bit over exuberant in their
message. Their experts do not see eye to eye with Dr. Budwig but this is
somewhat to be expected from people who have done their own research and
believe they are absolutely correct and do not want other opinions. (This
BTW is my own opinion and I may be wrong in my assessment!).

I feel also that we are, in a way, a "sister list" to the coconut list and
that coconut oil is extremely good for many maladies and self-remedies. It
does not have Omega 3 ( at least not in any noticeable quantities, I
believe). But they don`t seem to acknowledge that the Dr. Budwig protocol
is extremely healthy for serious illnesses and for health maintenance.It`s
one thing to have a product in which to cook, use as an antiseptic cleaner,
and to give some lauric acid/ vitamins to the body, and it`s quite another
thing to supply the body with the Essential fatty Acid (Omega 3) in order to
regain health or to maintain it. I see the two oils as two completely
different products with different benefits, but compatble , again IMHO.

Dr. Budwig has a long proven track record and that should be respected.
Some people are on our list are also on the coconut list and can give a lot
more input than I am doing. Again, I may be wrong and am willing to stand
corrected. I too am a subscriber to the coconut list but must say that I
don`t often read the messages unless I recognize one of the Flaxseed people
or some subject of great interest, only because of very limited time at this
time. If people want to downplay Flaxseed Oil , they should first do their
homework thoroughly and well, and examine all the good the Dr. Budwig
Combination and her complete protocol do for people. This protocol also
includes coconut oil in the Oleolox, which is combined with Flaxseed oil!
( see "The Oil-Protein Diet Cookbook"). It doesn`t have to be one or the
other...Dr. Budwig long ago recognized the great worth of coconut fat
(oil)...

Thanks for bearing with me on these topics but they are on my mind often and
we have to understand them them well if we want better health. I hope I am
not repeating myself too much or using the words of others but these are my
true feelings. We can learn from everyone and should. Thanks and best, Ciao
for now, Mike Cinelli
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <cliffb865@...>
To: "Flaxseed Oil 2" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Questions


Hi,

The website that Marsha cites has a lot of information that indicates that
Flax Oil is a dangerous drug rather than a beneficial food.

I have not analyzed it much; I kind of skimmed it. I may not have
understanding enough to really think my way through it.

I did, however, notice a couple of things. One is that the author said
that
he was not talking about fresh oil and there is no mention of the use of
sulfur based proteins with it.

Dr. Budwig has pointed out that if the sulfur based proteins are not used
with it it will have "the opposite effect".

The statement that Flaxseed Oil is like any other chemotherapy is to me
patently rediculous. By this time I know what chemo does and I have used
Flaxseed oil now for over eleven years and 8 or 9 months. I see no ill
effects. Of course, I am no expert. I just know of the results obtained
by
Dr. Budwig.

A lot of research is cited and in reality I know of no research at all
that
is being done using Fresh Flax Oil with sulfur based proteins such as
there
is in clobbered milk associated with it.

As far as I am concerned, this research is all irrelevant.

I believe that rancid Flax oil would be very dangerous and I want to be
sure
that what I use is fresh and cold until ready for use.

Cliff





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