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Re: Fall by Bunny. Man.
That's contemporary with when Go4 and Human League came to Pompey Poly together twice. Also Mekons and Pere Ubu...? style for rose tinned glasses fot the era stve On Tue, 24 Aug 2021, 12:30 pm Adam Marshall, <adam.marshall@...> wrote:
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Re: Fall by Bunny. Man.
Go and stand in the corner and think about what you've done. Tsk! Confusing very early line-ups
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of The Fall, indeed. Wow, though, what a line-up of artists.? Al On Tuesday, 24 August 2021, 12:31:00 BST, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> wrote:
?? On reflection, it quite clearly is the wrong line-up to be having Julian as a roadie. Schoolboy error on my behalf. ? I¡¯m guessing 8 Nov 1979 for the gig. The day before The Psychedlic Furs & A Certain Ratio (wow) and a week and a half before the Cure & Associates (wow) and Gang of 4 and Au Pairs (wow). Those were the days! ? adam ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> Reply to: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, 24 August 2021 at 12:23 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [FallNet] Fall by Bunny. Man. ? Have we seen these? I wonder if this was the day Julian made enquiries about the suitability of ¡°the gear¡±? ? Photos by Les Bunny. ? Man. ? Adam |
Re: Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI fucking like my fucking version fucking better! ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of dannyno <dannyno@...> ? It¡¯s ¡°I¡¯ve fucked more women than you¡¯ve ever seen...¡± in fact. ? ? Dan ? Sent from for Windows ? From: Mr P Johnson via groups.io
Sent: 24 August 2021 12:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988) ? "I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography. ? PJ ? ? |
Re: Fall by Bunny. Man.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI concluded it was probably the 8/11/79 gig too, based on the visible personnel and not being able to see Yvonne Pawlett (her last gig being 28 July).? She might just have been out of shot, of course, but 8 November is the best bet. ? Dan ? Sent from for Windows ? From: Adam Marshall
Sent: 24 August 2021 12:30 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FallNet] Fall by Bunny. Man. ? On reflection, it quite clearly is the wrong line-up to be having Julian as a roadie. Schoolboy error on my behalf. ? I¡¯m guessing 8 Nov 1979 for the gig. The day before The Psychedlic Furs & A Certain Ratio (wow) and a week and a half before the Cure & Associates (wow) and Gang of 4 and Au Pairs (wow). Those were the days! ? adam ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> ? Have we seen these? I wonder if this was the day Julian made enquiries about the suitability of ¡°the gear¡±? ? Photos by Les Bunny. ? Man. ? Adam ? ? ? |
Re: Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt¡¯s ¡°I¡¯ve fucked more women than you¡¯ve ever seen...¡± in fact. ? ? Dan ? Sent from for Windows ? From: Mr P Johnson via groups.io
Sent: 24 August 2021 12:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988) ? "I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography. ? PJ ? ? |
Re: Fall by Bunny. Man.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn reflection, it quite clearly is the wrong line-up to be having Julian as a roadie. Schoolboy error on my behalf. ? I¡¯m guessing 8 Nov 1979 for the gig. The day before The Psychedlic Furs & A Certain Ratio (wow) and a week and a half before the Cure & Associates (wow) and Gang of 4 and Au Pairs (wow). Those were the days! ? adam ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> ? Have we seen these? I wonder if this was the day Julian made enquiries about the suitability of ¡°the gear¡±? ? Photos by Les Bunny. ? Man. ? Adam ? ? |
Re: Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý"I've fucked more women than you've had hot dinners. But I don't look at women in magazines." He genuinely disapproved of pornography. PJ |
Fall by Bunny. Man.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHave we seen these? I wonder if this was the day Julian made enquiries about the suitability of ¡°the gear¡±? ? Photos by Les Bunny. ? Man. ? Adam ? ? |
Re: Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDidn¡¯t he also say to Caitlin Moran: ¡°I¡¯ve fucking fucked more fucking women that you¡¯ve fucking had fucking hot fucking dinners¡± before starting on a mega rant that lasted about 10 mins? ? It was a while ago and I may have underestimated the number of swears in that sentence. ? adam ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of dannyno <dannyno@...> ? ¡°A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle¡± would appear to be wide of the mark, given Brix and others¡¯ biographies! ? Anyway, I¡¯ve attached the review from ¡°Gay Life¡±, May 1988, as Fallnetters appear not to have seen it. ? ? Dan ? Sent from for Windows ? From: wwalters@...
Sent: 24 August 2021 04:12 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc ? > ¡°There¡¯s misanthropy, and there¡¯s whatever you¡¯d call Mark E. Smith.¡± Okay, now that¡¯s a good line, Tom Taylor¡ > *nina* > https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/mark-e-smith-reviewed-morrissey-first-album/ ¡° ? MES isn't a misanthrope, especially by today's screen and self obsessed standards. ? Largely on the road and in pubs. More social contact with far more people than most. ? A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle, as far as I can tell. ? The remark: something like "I met brix and so we got married" or some such. I wonder if that was a visa thing though - like Cleese and Connie Booth. ? His criticisms seem to be those of an artist and I love the "God help us if there's a war" initial reaction to the Smiths - spot on. I was and am now much happier when Morrissey is hated by the media establishment. It was horrible in the 2000s when everyone on telly was a Smiths fan, telling us how much better his shite middle aged albums were. I'm glad they never quite reduced MES to a national treasure, though they wanted to, but I am bitterly sorry he died when he did. I bet he would would have napalmed the fuckers expecting him to sit at home on handouts for 18 months playing with his ipad ? Cliff damn you, Nina, for making me read a music journalism article, but I cannot resist MES^Mozzer ? "there last LP hooked me with its poetry and power.¡±? Oh dear. But Tom Taylor published NINE articles today (yesterday) so we might forgive him ? He has published ca 1000 articles in the past six months. Bot? Fake name for unpaid interns? cold reheated cut n pastes? (this one rehashes a mag artcl) ? Yet he still has time to give moral lectures to his elders and betters, as is always the way with music journalists. Right back to the big names of the 1960s. ? MES escapes censure and even gets a condescending pat on the head by the simpering little teenaged prick in the article conclusion "how commendable it was for the punk frontman to contribute to a gay magazine in the era that it was written." ? Gosh yes. Remember all those punk frontmen like Sidney Viscous and Susan Sue who uses to wear swastikas in the mid 1980s and there were no free tampons in the men's toilets. Not in My Name said our Mark. ? How proud his family must be -- indeed we all should be -- that he has the commendation of Tom Taylor Fuck look at the time ? ? ? ? ? |
Re: Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc (MES review of Morrissey 1988)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý¡°A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle¡± would appear to be wide of the mark, given Brix and others¡¯ biographies! ? Anyway, I¡¯ve attached the review from ¡°Gay Life¡±, May 1988, as Fallnetters appear not to have seen it. ? ? Dan ? Sent from for Windows ? From: wwalters@...
Sent: 24 August 2021 04:12 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc ? > ¡°There¡¯s misanthropy, and there¡¯s whatever you¡¯d call Mark E. Smith.¡± Okay, now that¡¯s a good line, Tom Taylor¡ > *nina* > https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/mark-e-smith-reviewed-morrissey-first-album/ ¡° ? MES isn't a misanthrope, especially by today's screen and self obsessed standards. ? Largely on the road and in pubs. More social contact with far more people than most. ? A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle, as far as I can tell. ? The remark: something like "I met brix and so we got married" or some such. I wonder if that was a visa thing though - like Cleese and Connie Booth. ? His criticisms seem to be those of an artist and I love the "God help us if there's a war" initial reaction to the Smiths - spot on. I was and am now much happier when Morrissey is hated by the media establishment. It was horrible in the 2000s when everyone on telly was a Smiths fan, telling us how much better his shite middle aged albums were. I'm glad they never quite reduced MES to a national treasure, though they wanted to, but I am bitterly sorry he died when he did. I bet he would would have napalmed the fuckers expecting him to sit at home on handouts for 18 months playing with his ipad ? Cliff damn you, Nina, for making me read a music journalism article, but I cannot resist MES^Mozzer ? "there last LP hooked me with its poetry and power.¡±? Oh dear. But Tom Taylor published NINE articles today (yesterday) so we might forgive him ? He has published ca 1000 articles in the past six months. Bot? Fake name for unpaid interns? cold reheated cut n pastes? (this one rehashes a mag artcl) ? Yet he still has time to give moral lectures to his elders and betters, as is always the way with music journalists. Right back to the big names of the 1960s. ? MES escapes censure and even gets a condescending pat on the head by the simpering little teenaged prick in the article conclusion "how commendable it was for the punk frontman to contribute to a gay magazine in the era that it was written." ? Gosh yes. Remember all those punk frontmen like Sidney Viscous and Susan Sue who uses to wear swastikas in the mid 1980s and there were no free tampons in the men's toilets. Not in My Name said our Mark. ? How proud his family must be -- indeed we all should be -- that he has the commendation of Tom Taylor Fuck look at the time? ? ? ? ? ? |
Re: Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc
Good summary, that... And, yes, I think I would've preferred to see the actual review... but glad it's brought out the Moz fans.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of wwalters@... Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 8:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc ¡°There¡¯s misanthropy, and there¡¯s whatever you¡¯d call Mark E. Smith.¡± MES isn't a misanthrope, especially by today's screen and self obsessed standards. Largely on the road and in pubs. More social contact with far more people than most. A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle, as far as I can tell. The remark: something like "I met brix and so we got married" or some such. I wonder if that was a visa thing though - like Cleese and Connie Booth. His criticisms seem to be those of an artist and I love the "God help us if there's a war" initial reaction to the Smiths - spot on. I was and am now much happier when Morrissey is hated by the media establishment. It was horrible in the 2000s when everyone on telly was a Smiths fan, telling us how much better his shite middle aged albums were. I'm glad they never quite reduced MES to a national treasure, though they wanted to, but I am bitterly sorry he died when he did. I bet he would would have napalmed the fuckers expecting him to sit at home on handouts for 18 months playing with his ipad Cliff damn you, Nina, for making me read a music journalism article, but I cannot resist MES^Mozzer "there last LP hooked me with its poetry and power.¡± Oh dear. But Tom Taylor published NINE articles today (yesterday) so we might forgive him He has published ca 1000 articles in the past six months. Bot? Fake name for unpaid interns? cold reheated cut n pastes? (this one rehashes a mag artcl) Yet he still has time to give moral lectures to his elders and betters, as is always the way with music journalists. Right back to the big names of the 1960s. MES escapes censure and even gets a condescending pat on the head by the simpering little teenaged prick in the article conclusion "how commendable it was for the punk frontman to contribute to a gay magazine in the era that it was written." Gosh yes. Remember all those punk frontmen like Sidney Viscous and Susan Sue who uses to wear swastikas in the mid 1980s and there were no free tampons in the men's toilets. Not in My Name said our Mark. How proud his family must be -- indeed we all should be -- that he has the commendation of Tom Taylor Fuck look at the time? |
Re: Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc
¡°There¡¯s misanthropy, and there¡¯s whatever you¡¯d call Mark E. Smith.¡± Okay, now that¡¯s a good line, Tom Taylor¡ MES isn't a misanthrope, especially by today's screen and self obsessed standards. Largely on the road and in pubs. More social contact with far more people than most. A series of wives rather than a one night stand rock star lifestyle, as far as I can tell. The remark: something like "I met brix and so we got married" or some such. I wonder if that was a visa thing though - like Cleese and Connie Booth. His criticisms seem to be those of an artist and I love the "God help us if there's a war" initial reaction to the Smiths - spot on. I was and am now much happier when Morrissey is hated by the media establishment. It was horrible in the 2000s when everyone on telly was a Smiths fan, telling us how much better his shite middle aged albums were. I'm glad they never quite reduced MES to a national treasure, though they wanted to, but I am bitterly sorry he died when he did. I bet he would would have napalmed the fuckers expecting him to sit at home on handouts for 18 months playing with his ipad Cliff damn you, Nina, for making me read a music journalism article, but I cannot resist MES^Mozzer "there last LP hooked me with its poetry and power.¡± Oh dear. But Tom Taylor published NINE articles today (yesterday) so we might forgive him He has published ca 1000 articles in the past six months. Bot? Fake name for unpaid interns? cold reheated cut n pastes? (this one rehashes a mag artcl) Yet he still has time to give moral lectures to his elders and betters, as is always the way with music journalists. Right back to the big names of the 1960s. MES escapes censure and even gets a condescending pat on the head by the simpering little teenaged prick in the article conclusion "how commendable it was for the punk frontman to contribute to a gay magazine in the era that it was written." Gosh yes. Remember all those punk frontmen like Sidney Viscous and Susan Sue who uses to wear swastikas in the mid 1980s and there were no free tampons in the men's toilets. Not in My Name said our Mark. How proud his family must be -- indeed we all should be -- that he has the commendation of Tom Taylor Fuck look at the time? |
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓý¡°There¡¯s misanthropy, and there¡¯s whatever you¡¯d call Mark E. Smith.¡± Okay, now that¡¯s a good line, Tom Taylor¡ *nina* ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of allan smithee via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 1:09 AM To: Fallnet Io <[email protected]> Subject: [FallNet] Prolly olde/yesterday's newsvetc ? When Mark E. Smith reviewed Morrissey¡¯s first solo album? |
Re: I can hardly believe I saw them AND I can hardly believe I didn't go and see them
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Stefan Cooke <fallnews@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2021 4:18:37 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FallNet] I can hardly believe I saw them AND I can hardly believe I didn't go and see them ?
The Only Ones supporting The Stranglers, Sept. 1977
The Users & Patrik Fitzgerald supporting The Soft Boys, Jan. 1978
Killing Joke supporting Joy Division, Feb. 1980
Missed & could've gone:
AC/DC 1978
Richard Hell supporting The Clash, Dec. 1977 (I watched through a grimy window from the car park roof across the road; the gig was sold out).
The Dead Boys supporting The Damned, Dec. 1977
Stefan
On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:16 AM scott telles <scotttelles@...> wrote:
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Re: I can hardly believe I saw them AND I can hardly believe I didn't go and see them
Hello, I think the closest I can come to ANY of the aforementioned (amazing) concert experiences is either - Amy Winehouse, sober and in GREAT form, in 2007, right as "Back to Black" was starting to gain traction ?or -Arcade Fire, Fiery Furnaces, and the Unicorns on the same bill in 2003, when Arcade Fire was still being marketed as a local Houston band <3 Sean P. On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 11:18 AM Stefan Cooke <fallnews@...> wrote:
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Re: I can hardly believe I saw them AND I can hardly believe I didn't go and see them
The Only Ones supporting The Stranglers, Sept. 1977 The Users & Patrik Fitzgerald supporting The Soft Boys, Jan. 1978 Killing Joke supporting Joy Division, Feb. 1980 Missed & could've gone: AC/DC 1978 Richard Hell supporting The Clash, Dec. 1977 (I watched through a grimy window from the car park roof across the road; the gig was sold out). The Dead Boys supporting The Damned, Dec. 1977 Stefan On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:16 AM scott telles <scotttelles@...> wrote:
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Re: I can hardly believe I saw them AND I can hardly believe I didn't go and see them
AAAAGH! The Fall also played Club Foot in 1981 and I was not hip enough yet to be there. Sad. On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:12 PM scott telles <scotttelles@...> wrote:
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Re: I can hardly believe I saw them AND I can hardly believe I didn't go and see them
Agreed! Totes jelly. Still fairly amazed I saw the Stranglers in Texas twice in 1980-81....At Club Foot. Fairly remarkable that I sold some Thai stick to the Anti-Nowhere League and met the UK Subs in 1981 at Club Foot... Club Foot in ATX seems to be my focus here - also saw U2 there in 80 or 81 and didn't care much for them - still don't. Hah! Never got to the see the Fall until here: On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 6:19 PM Nina Woodson via <nina.ray=[email protected]> wrote:
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