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Re: Meeting with Susan Holt last Monday
Thanks everyone.?? On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 at 21:30, Jill Watson <rosierjnb@...> wrote:
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Meeting with Susan Holt last Monday
Hi everybody, Last week, a couple of us had a meeting with our MLA, Susan Holt, to discuss electoral reform. That she also happens to be the Premier is just the icing on the cake. Here's what we learned:
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Re: Meeting with Susan Holt
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Sent: February 6, 2025 3:49 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; fair-vote-fredericton@... <fair-vote-fredericton@...> Subject: [FairVoting4NB] Meeting with Susan Holt ?
Hi,
Susan Holt now has a constituency office. I want to schedule an appointment with her to discuss electoral reform, but I'd like to have some people to go with. Last time I spoke to her, she said that she didn't think it was worthwhile to have a one-on-one
meeting with me and have the same old discussion. Not that it would be the same old discussion, but I want to respect her desires by having it not be another one-on-one meeting.
Do you live in Fredericton South-Silverwood, and would you like to meet with your MLA/ Premier Susan Holt to talk about electoral reform? If so, please drop me a line.
Thanks, and have a good day.
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Meeting with Susan Holt
Hi, Susan Holt now has a constituency office. I want to schedule an appointment with her to discuss electoral reform, but I'd like to have some people to go with. Last time I spoke to her, she said that she didn't think it was worthwhile to have a one-on-one meeting with me and have the same old discussion. Not that it would be the same old discussion, but I want to respect her desires by having it not be another one-on-one meeting. Do you live in Fredericton South-Silverwood, and would you like to meet with your MLA/ Premier Susan Holt to talk about electoral reform? If so, please drop me a line. Thanks, and have a good day. -- Vivian Unger Fredericton, NB, Canada On the unceded territory of the Wolastoqiyik and ²Ñ¾±¡¯°ì³¾²¹¡¯°ì¾± . . BOOK INDEXING SERVICES FICTION |
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My first podcast appearance!
Check it out. I went on a political podcast (NB Poli) and we spent a whole hour talking (mostly) about electoral reform and PR.? I just relistened to the whole thing, thinking there were things I could have done better. I meant to make a point about referendums early on and ended up in a ramble about the PEI election. I never got around to explaining what a citizens' assembly on electoral reform is. I also had some concerns when Brent asked me what my preferred system is, and to explain how it works. I hope we didn't lose too many listeners at that moment, especially since it was early on. But we had a great conversation and covered a lot of ground.? It was fun, and I hope the listeners enjoy it too. With luck, I'll do better on my next podcast. I didn't think my sound was perfect either; just a bit echoey compared to the two hosts. Maybe?I should try doing the next one in a closet. I hear that's the way to get good sound. Thing is, our closets are small and full of junk. Vivian Unger Fredericton, NB, Canada On the unceded territory of the Wolastoqiyik and ²Ñ¾±¡¯°ì³¾²¹¡¯°ì¾± . . BOOK INDEXING SERVICES FICTION |
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Re: [pr-writers] My op-ed on what lessons the PCs should learn from the NB election
Thanks everyone! I appreciate the feedback. On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 at 10:56, Jim Hollingworth via <jhollingworthmd=[email protected]> wrote:
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My op-ed on what lessons the PCs should learn from the NB election
Hi, I plan to send this to the newspapers, maybe the CBC too, and I'd appreciate feedback on it. Thanks! From a Merry Minority to a Miserable Majority: was Higgs' 2020 snap election call a mistake? The PCs have just suffered a big loss. This seems like a good time for the party to reflect upon mistakes made and lessons learned. These reflections need to go back as far as Higgs' first big mistake: pulling the plug early on his minority government. After the 2018 election, the PCs had 22 seats--one more than the Liberals, but short of the 25 required for a majority in the 49-seat legislature. So Blaine Higgs teamed up with Kris Austin of the People's Alliance and formed a collaborative government. And a strange thing happened--the legislature became an almost pleasant place to be. Higgs' nascent tyrannical tendencies were reined in, and the two parties worked together on legislation. , Harry Forestell asked Higgs, "Do you think that New Brunswickers, with this minority government, are getting a better deal than they would with a majority?" Higgs replied, "Well, you'd have to ask the public that, but I would say yes." In 2020, an all-party committee formed to deal with COVID-19. The spirit of collaboration extended beyond the two parties in government, embracing the opposition. And it worked. Swift action kept case levels low in New Brunswick. All this created a lot of public satisfaction with the government. The PCs rose in the polls. Seeing that, Higgs changed his tune on minority governments. He decided to call a snap election. It was the first one held in Canada during the pandemic. It even paved the way for other opportunistic election calls across the country, as other Premiers saw Higgs get away with it. But did Higgs really get away with it? He snagged the majority he wanted--27 seats. But things started to go pear-shaped fairly soon afterwards. COVID-19 cases soared. The atmosphere in the legislature turned sour. Without another party holding him in check, Higgs became the leader he always wanted to be. It turned out that wasn't a good thing. One of his heavy-handed moves was ending elections of Regional Health Authorities. Another was his attempt to abolish French Immersion, something he had to back off on after a public outcry. Neither of these things had been an election promise. The first cabinet minister to break with Higgs was Dominic Cardy, in the fall of 2022. , he accused Higgs of micromanaging, consolidating his own power, and yelling "Data my ass," at a civil servant. A year later, Higgs' one-sided decision to change Policy 713 resulted in a caucus rebellion. Eight caucus members, six of them ministers, left the legislature to protest their leader's "lack of process and transparency." Amid calls to resign, Higgs stood his ground. When caucus members declared that they weren't running again, Higgs replaced them with more amenable candidates. On October 21, the Liberals won 48% of the vote and a towering majority of 31 seats. The PCs were reduced to 16 seats. Higgs himself was defeated in his Quispamsis riding. At last, he has declared that his resignation is "extremely likely." Higgs went from a merry minority to a miserable majority. That 2020 snap election call isn't looking like such a great idea now. If Higgs had decided to govern his full term with a minority government that was doing just fine, in all probability he never would have faced a caucus rebellion. Satisfaction with the government would not have declined so precipitously. In the 2022 election that would have followed, the PCs wouldn't have lost as many seats. The PCs will soon be looking for a new leader. They would be wise to choose one who is more interested in collaboration and building consensus. A leader who can appreciate a good minority government. Might the PCs even consider supporting a change to the voting system, so that minority governments can become the norm? It was, after all, a PC government, under Bernard Lord, that convened the 2003 Commission on Legislative Democracy. That commission recommended changing the voting system to Mixed-Member Proportional Representation. Perhaps Bernard Lord would like to come out of retirement. Vivian Unger Fredericton, NB, Canada On the unceded territory of the Wolastoqiyik and ²Ñ¾±¡¯°ì³¾²¹¡¯°ì¾± . . BOOK INDEXING SERVICES FICTION |
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NBLA votes yes on a citizens' assembly on electoral reform
Hi, The NB Liberals had their policy convention on Feb. 24. I moved a resolution for a citizens' assembly on electoral reform. I'm happy to say it passed. Fair Vote Canada did a press release: The CBC covered the convention. Jacques Poitras piece contains a fair bit of information about this resolution, since it was one of the most controversial. I was remiss not sending this out earlier. I was pretty preoccupied. I had an interview with Information Morning Saint John last week. So much going on for me these days. -- Vivian Unger Fredericton, NB, Canada On the unceded territory of the Wolastoqiyik and ²Ñ¾±¡¯°ì³¾²¹¡¯°ì¾± . . BOOK INDEXING SERVICES FICTION |
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Motion M-86 defeated
Hi everybody, The motion for a citizens' assembly on electoral reform was defeated. The Liberal cabinet was whipped, and so, everybody in cabinet voted against it. Most backbenchers also voted against it, including some who told their constituents they supported it. But 40 Liberals and 3 Conservatives voted for it. In addition, the BQ, NDP and Greens all voted for it. If your MP voted in favour, consider sending them a thank-you email. Or if they voted against it, express your disappointment. You can find out how everyone voted at . Jenica Atwin, for example, voted for it. Does anyone want to write to her and thank her? -- Vivian Unger Fredericton, NB, Canada On the unceded territory of the Wolastoqiyik and ²Ñ¾±¡¯°ì³¾²¹¡¯°ì¾± . . BOOK INDEXING SERVICES FICTION |
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Do you live in Moncton? (Or know someone who does?)
If so, Fair Vote Canada could use your help. We need signatures on a petition asking MPs to vote in favour of Motion M-86. This motion, for a Citizens' Assembly on Electoral Reform, will be coming up for a vote in the new year.? It would be particularly helpful to get lots of signatures sent to
Ginette Petitpas Taylor, who's a minister. So if you live in the Moncton¡ªRiverview¡ªDieppe riding (or you know someone who does), all the better. If you're able to do this, please sign up , or email Anita Nickerson. If you're not able, please forward this to other people you know in Moncton who might be interested in helping. Thanks! -- Vivian Unger Fredericton, NB, Canada On the unceded territory of the Wolastoqiyik and ²Ñ¾±¡¯°ì³¾²¹¡¯°ì¾± . . BOOK INDEXING SERVICES FICTION |
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Re: [pr-writers] A letter in the Gleaner today
Nothing in there about elected judges, just an elected Senate. On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 at 17:05, E Lee <sootfive48@...> wrote:
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A letter in the Gleaner today
Hi, Saw a letter in the F'ton Gleaner today, calling for an elected Senate in Canada. I've attached a photo of it, but it's small and hard to read, so I've OCRed it and included the text below (with [sic] inserted next to the errors, and yeah, there were two in one letter, not a testament to the editorship of the paper). I think an elected Senate makes a lot of sense, but not with FPTP, please! What a wasted opportunity that would be. The Senators should be elected with PR-STV. This is, after all, how Australia elects its Senate. Does anyone want to write a letter to the Gleaner? Maybe I'll do it if no one else wants to, although I'm a bit preoccupied with NaNoWriMo lately. Vivian Some suggestions for an elected Senate I agree partly with the third last paragraph Of the Nov. 1 editorial, "PM's Senate picks rightly in doubt," which suggests that senators should be elected. But I disagree with most of the rest of the editorial. I do not want some hack bean counter deciding what is best. Each province should have four senators, each elected for six years. Every three years, two of the four senators would be elected, followed three years later by the other two senators. Senators' elections would be part of a general election every three years. Each senator and candidate would be eligible for election until their 70th birthday. Each senator would be renumerated[sic] at 1.75 times the average salary paid in Canada as posted yearly by Statistics Canada. They would have to complete more than 110 hours each month of direct parliamentary duties; less than that would result in a 50 per cent pay cut for the month. A majority vote of the Senate should be needed to appoint federal judges. Any bill presented to the Senate and returned three times to the House of Commons without approval would be dead. Amending the Constitution should require approval of 70 per cent[sic] of senators. Members of Parliament should also be elected to six-year terms, with elections for half of the House every three years. If a senator or MP can't complete a six-year term, the legislators of the home province I would select a replacement for the remainder of the term. General elections for the House of Commons and Senate should be held every three years and a government that loses the confidence of the House should relinquish power within 10 days. The king of a foreign country should not have a word to say on how Canada is run. Canadian voters have the responsibility and duty to decide how our country is run.? Robert LeBlanc |
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Conservative MP visits - just to give you encouragement
Hi everybody, Anita Nickerson is looking for people to visit their Conservative MP. It's to ask them to vote in favour of a citizens' assembly on electoral reform. If you have a Conservative MP, please . If not, please pass this on to your friends who live in Conservative ridings. Thanks! Vivian ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Anita Nickerson <anita.nickerson@...> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 01:08 Subject: Conservative MP visits - just to give you encouragement To: Chapters Google Group <fair-vote-canada-chapters@...> Hi everyone.?
-- I don't have permission to share who the MP is or detailed notes on this one, so please don't quote this anywhere, but today someone?met with a Conservative MP (who is not Ben Lobb) and reports: Re the motion to implement a citizens¡¯ committee on electoral reform, he was aware of it and he¡¯ll support that.?Digging a bit deeper, I found that he was quite willing to discuss PR and is well aware of its merits and said he wasn¡¯t alone among his Conservative colleagues. He¡¯s also mentioned that minority governments are often our best. He¡¯s also not totally intimidated by party politics and has voted against his party on a number of issues.? Now this MP had expressed support at a visit a couple of years ago, so it's not entirely new. But having an MP say they'll support this specific motion that is coming to a vote (obviously knowing the party might not)?is something else.? So this is today's email?to say to you: It's not impossible to win this vote. WE CAN DO IT!! We won't get to the approx 110 votes we need, though, if we don't have people willing to make an appointment with their MP.? I'm deeply grateful for those who are leading visits. BUT - there?are many Conservative ridings where we still need a leader to step up and I am not going to find them on the Fair Vote Canada mailing list. If you have a friend or family member in a Conservative riding who might be willing to do it, please ask them. Send them my way or just ask them to . Right now is when they can really?make a difference. We will walk them through what to do and support them as much as we can. People have commented that the Real gave on visiting your Conservative MP was very helpful. The same goes for Liberal held ridings, obviously! Many places we don't have volunteers where your?personal connections could help. We'll probably start "Visit your Liberal MP" sign up soon. I'm just waiting for?Julie Dzerowicz,?who has agreed to second the new motion,?to show up on the page first,?and perhaps one other Lib, then I'll get going on Lib MP visits.? Thanks, all of you!? Anita You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Fair Vote Canada Chapters" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to fair-vote-canada-chapters+unsubscribe@.... To view this discussion on the web visit . -- Vivian Unger Fredericton, NB, Canada On the unceded territory of the Wolastoqiyik and ²Ñ¾±¡¯°ì³¾²¹¡¯°ì¾± . . BOOK INDEXING SERVICES FICTION |
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Harriet Worden <friendomonty@...>
Sent: February 7, 2023 9:06 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FairVoting4NB] Question ?
DD YOU GET AN INVITATION TO VISIT OUR MP REGARDING THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ON ELECTORAL REVIEW? ? Harriet WORDEN Sent from for Windows ? |
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Re: Question
I did. On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 15:50, Harriet Worden <friendomonty@...> wrote:
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VOTE AHEAD! Send Justin Trudeau a card telling him to vote YES for action electoral reform!
FYI if you didn't get this directly from FVC. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Fair Vote Canada - Anita Nickerson <anita.nickerson@...> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 03:34 Subject: VOTE AHEAD! Send Justin Trudeau a card telling him to vote YES for action electoral reform! To: Vivian Unger <vivian.unger@...>
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Fair Vote Canada NB volunteer meeting
Hi, Some of you will be getting an official email about this from Fair Vote Canada, but it may take a couple of days due to technical difficulties, so I want to let you know now. Susan Holt getting elected as leader of the NBLA is an opportunity. For once, we have two party leaders who support PR, and one of them belongs to a ruling party. Susan Holt also supports a citizen's assembly on electoral reform. The volunteer meeting will take place on Sunday, Jan. 15 at 6pm (on Zoom; Anita will send a link). If you'd like to help us get PR in NB, please join. The link is Also, check out my first guest blog post for Fair Vote Canada: -- Vivian Unger Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq BOOK INDEXING SERVICES FICTION |
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