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From folks using qslworld?? I've gotten several of those lately.?? I thought it was from the recent CQ-WPX contest, but it's from older QSOs.?? I'm not using qslworld.

73

Stan
KM4HQE

+ AA6YQ comments below

I am getting more and more online QSLs. Is there an automated way to respond back to their email address with my filled-out QSL?

+ Assuming you already have DXKeeper to be able to print QSL cards, as described and illustrated in



1. on the Main window's QSL tab,

1a. clear the QSL Queue if it's not empty

1b. set the "QSL Via" panel to "QSL Cards"

1c. check the "Print preview (QSL cards) box


2. For each logged QSO to which you wish to respond via email,

2a. select the QSO in the "Log Page Display" on the Main window's "Log QSOs" tab

2b. right click, and select "Add to QSL Queue" from the pop-up menu

2c. on the Main window's QSL tab, click the "Print QSL Cards' button

2d. in the "Print Preview" windows that appears, click the "Copy to Clipboard" button in its upper-right corner

2e. in the Windows Paint (or equivalent) application , paste the contents of the Windows clipboard, crop the QSL card image as desired, copy the cropped image to the Windows Clipboard, and paste the image into your email response to the sender

2f. on the Main window's QSL tab, click the Clear button

+ This could be further automated by adding a "Copy cropped QSL image to the Clipboard" command to the Log Page Display's right mouse menu. I've added this to DXKeeper's enhancement list, but won't go near it until I publicly release the next versions of DXKeeper and SpotCollector, which are still being tested by users.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

Most of these are from qslworld and seem to be from totally random quite old qsos and nothing special. I think the intention is that you should join yourself and reply via their system. Replies sent as replies to the email probably never reach your qso partner. I just delete these now, but if you want to sign up to qslworld you are of course entitled to do so. eqsl operate a different system in that the system has a function to tell a qso partner that there are eqls waiting but the actual cards are not emailed.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 4/29/2025 7:51 PM, Guy Carlsen via groups.io wrote:

I've been getting them too,

Me too, and I delete them. For many years, my QRZ page has said that I no longer respond to JA cards, because they have overwhelmed the Bureau trying to win JA awards for the sheer quantity of card, and that I respond to requests for paper cards ONLY for QSOs that are confirmed in LOTW. I do a lot of contesting, and if I worked a station five times (on different bands), I'd get five cards from them, all automatically generated, two years after the contest, all via the Bureau. For me, at least, they destroyed the Bureau system.

DXKeeper makes it very easy to upload to LOTW, eQSL, and Club Log, and I'm 100% for all three since getting back on the air in 2003.

73, Jim K9YC

On 2025-04-30 1:46 AM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

+ Even if the answer is "none", a QSL remains the last courtesy of
a QSO. It'd be nice to be able to answer with a mouse click or 2 -
if the response will reach the sender. Otherwise, your "just delete
these"response would be appropriate.

E-mail QSLs are just another form of unsolicited spam e-mail. As
such "just delete them" *is* the appropriate response.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2025-04-30 1:46 AM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

Most of these are from qslworld and seem to be from totally random quite
old qsos and nothing special. I think the intention is that you should
join yourself and reply via their system. Replies sent
as replies to the email probably never reach your qso partner.

+ There's a link the the sender's email address directly beneath the received QSL image. However, I've received no response from then 10 or so QSLs I've emailed.

I just delete these now, but if you want to sign up to qslworld you are of
course entitled to do so. eqsl operate a different system in that the
system has a function to tell a qso partner that there are eqls waiting
but the actual cards are not emailed.

+ Are there any well-known awards that accept QSLWorld confirmations?
+ Even if the answer is "none", a QSL remains the last courtesy of a QSO. It'd be nice to be able to answer with a mouse click or 2 - if the response will reach the sender. Otherwise, your "just delete these" response would be appropriate.
783,
Dave, AA6YQ

There is an “unsubscribe” link at the bottom of the QSL World emails. Seems to work so far for QSLs I have received for 3 different callsigns I hold.
Lee, KY7M

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Ted? ?WA3AER

What if one would remove the email address and then put it close to the top of the bio?? Would that stop the email cards and still allow bureau workers to get the info?

Earl / KD5XB

Sent from Proton Mail Android

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Ted? ?WA3AER

On 2025-05-01 2:05 PM, dl8le wrote:

It looks as if they all use the email-information given in qrz.com (for sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in qrz.com it should be very likely that you will not receive any electronic qsl.

I removed my e-mail from QRZ several years ago (what was there was
significantly out of date) and receive very few "electronic QSLs"
(a.k.a "spam QSLs"). It also seems to limit the level of amateur
related marketing (spam) e-mail.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2025-05-01 2:05 PM, dl8le wrote:

Majority of electronic qsl's I receive are not via QSL World (or using the N1ET tool) but from QSL Creator and those people which use the tool of PA4R. It looks as if they all use the email-information given in qrz.com (for sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in qrz.com it should be very likely that you will not receive any electronic qsl. This should work in addition to clicking on the unsubscribe links.
If eQSL would offer this service for a certain additional fee in addition to the existing eQSL service it should be possible to use those electronic qsl's also for the awards which accept eQSL (as the qso information is already available in eQSL, no need to present electronic qsl's). I don't download the images normally, only for some specific qso's confirmed via eQSL, therefore I am missing somehow the effort of the qsl designers, but that is the reality, at least for me. I am only using eQSL to be able to respond to SWLs which would need paper cards if eQSL would not exisit. The confirmation of other qso's is just a courtesy and easy to do via DXKeeper. This is very similar to the upload of qso's to qrz.com.
73
Juergen, DL8LE

On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to
provide an email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to
enter it.

Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
member directory (with e-mail) rather than require amateurs to
expose themselves to additional unsolicited commercial (spam)
e-mail in order to receive cards from the bureau.

In any case, e-mail should not be necessary if users keep envelopes
(with current address) on file with the bureau. We certainly did
not have access to e-mail 40 years ago when I was a letter manager
with the 8th area bureau. In the worst case a post card to the
station's Callbook address was sufficient.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

I see a lot of entries w/o bio.
There have been lots of suggestions here about handling the
electronic/email QSLs. Each has it's merit, and it's an individual choice
on how to handle them.
From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to provide an
email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to enter it.
73
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Ted WA3AER
On Thu, May 1, 2025, 15:03 Earl Needham via groups.io <kd5xb=
[email protected]> wrote:

What if one would remove the email address and then put it close to the
top of the bio? Would that stop the email cards and still allow bureau
workers to get the info?

Earl / KD5XB

Sent from Proton Mail Android


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On 5/1/25 12:28 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

Juergen wrote, in part:
looks as if they all use the email-information given in qrz.com (for
sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in
qrz. <>

As a buro card sorter who relies on QRZ.com, I hope this advice is not
taken to heart. We rely on QRZ to get email addresses to communicate with
buro account holders! When there's no email address, the alternative is to
waste postage and envelopes to try to contact buro users. That gets to be a
big expense after a while.

73
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Ted WA3AER

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Ted WA3AER

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Ted? ?WA3AER

On 2025-05-01 3:37 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

There's always the DELETE key; or one could set up filters to move
emails from designated sources to SPAM .

The damage is done before the delete key can be used. Lacking a
"bounce" a commercial e-mail generator can assume the address is,
at least, valid. Filters require reviewing anything in "SPAM" to
confirm the filter is not triggering falsely on valid e-mail and
that opens one to hidden payloads.

Unsolicited commercial e-mail is, arguably, an illegal invasion
of one's privacy and everything should be done to discourage such
activity. If one really wants a confirmation they can mail a
physical card or use LotW ... or, forbid, send a personal e-mail.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2025-05-01 3:37 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

Joe, W4TV wrote, in part:
Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
member directory (with e-mail) ...
That would be great, Joe. Unfortunately not everyone belongs to ARRL (and
more are leaving...I wonder why!),
and its highly unlikely ARRL would provide such a service to us sorters.
ARRL has indicated its funding for the
incoming buro is living on borrowed time.
There's always the DELETE key; or one could set up filters to move emails
from designated sources to SPAM .
73
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Ted WA3AER
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 3:28?PM Joe Subich, W4TV via groups.io <lists=
[email protected]> wrote:

On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to
provide an email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to
enter it.

Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
member directory (with e-mail) rather than require amateurs to
expose themselves to additional unsolicited commercial (spam)
e-mail in order to receive cards from the bureau.

In any case, e-mail should not be necessary if users keep envelopes
(with current address) on file with the bureau. We certainly did
not have access to e-mail 40 years ago when I was a letter manager
with the 8th area bureau. In the worst case a post card to the
station's Callbook address was sufficient.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

I see a lot of entries w/o bio.
There have been lots of suggestions here about handling the
electronic/email QSLs. Each has it's merit, and it's an individual choice
on how to handle them.
From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to provide

an

email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to enter it.

73
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Ted WA3AER

On Thu, May 1, 2025, 15:03 Earl Needham via groups.io <kd5xb=
[email protected]> wrote:

What if one would remove the email address and then put it close to the
top of the bio? Would that stop the email cards and still allow bureau
workers to get the info?

Earl / KD5XB

Sent from Proton Mail Android


-------- Original Message --------
On 5/1/25 12:28 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

Juergen wrote, in part:
looks as if they all use the email-information given in qrz.com (for
sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email

information in

qrz. <>

As a buro card sorter who relies on QRZ.com, I hope this advice is not
taken to heart. We rely on QRZ to get email addresses to communicate

with

buro account holders! When there's no email address, the alternative is

to

waste postage and envelopes to try to contact buro users. That gets to

be a

big expense after a while.

73
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Ted WA3AER

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Ted WA3AER

Of course, *ALL OF THIS* is moot. DXKeeper already allows one to
create and respond to e-mailed QSLs.

All that one needs to do is design a QSL card in QSL Config -> Cards. Set the Printer to "Microsoft Print to PDF" and set the size to "North
America 4x6". Place the QSOs for which QSLs are to be sent in the
QSL Queue. The "cards" can be "printed" and saved individually and
the resulting (pdf) file(s) attached to the e-mail reply.

One can select QSOs for e-mail QSLing in mass by tagging each QSO
intended to electronic QSL by setting QSL Sent Via = E, then filtering
the log page display with QSL_Sent_Via = 'E' (and any other limit like
Station_Callsign = 'XX1ZZZ') before clicking "Add Needed" or "Add
Requested".

Card definition for use with "Microsoft Print to PDF":

Page Layout:
1 card (right feed)
Card Dimensions:
Width: 6 Side borders 0.5
Height: 4 Top border 0.375

If the recipient wants to print a 3.5" x 5.5" hard copy instead of
a 4" x 6" "card" it is only necessary to scale the PDF to 85% when
printing.

Note: Using DXKeeper's *EXISTING* Print Card capability also allows
QSO Specific QSL Messages.

73,

... Joe, W4TV