LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95


 

Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95
This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.
It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.
NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.
< = >


 

Why will the 16� bed extension not work with other 7X lathes? Are the ways of a different dimension than the HF & Grizzly?

From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:40 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95

This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.

It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.

NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.

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I installed one of their kits, designed for the HF 7 X 12.
It took most of a day to put together,but was well worth it.
I bought my 7X to dedicate for a tool post grinder,but once I got the TP grinder on it,there was not enough room to use the tailstock.
Even with the longer bed,I have to use a #2 MT extension,toget around the grinder,and givesupport to the chamberreamer I am working on.
Even the motor mount was an improved design.


--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Michael Jablonski wrote:

From: Michael Jablonski
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 5:40 AM

Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95
This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.
It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.
NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.
< = >


Steve Langford
 

Hello...
I am a new member here and I have the HF 7x10...
Was a member at the 7X10 group but they talk about politics there...
Has anyone taken the bed extension for the 7X10 and extended by adding to the existing bed?


I had thought it could be done with exception of a longer lead screw...
Can this lead screw material be bought in bulk?
Does anyone know the thread pitch of the Harbor Freight 7X10 lead screw?
I have had my lathe for 3 years now for building small IC engines and general turning...
I usually buy my stock in 12" lengths and a longer bed would be helpful...
Steve Langford



From: Michael Jablonski
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tue, February 12, 2013 11:40:15 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95
This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.
It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.
NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.
< = >


 

Steve;
You can pick up a used bed,and lead screw on here,and,if you bolt both beds down,and line them up ,you can add another 16 in.
Lead screws can be joined by turning a lap joint,and pin it.
Someone just had a bed for sale on here,and did not know if it sold.
Just ask the group if interested.


--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Steve Langford wrote:

From: Steve Langford <steze480@...>
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 3:57 PM

Hello...
I am a new member here and I have the HF 7x10...
Was a member at the 7X10 group but they talk about politics there...
Has anyone taken the bed extension for the 7X10 and extended by adding to the existing bed?


I had thought it could be done with exception of a longer lead screw...
Can this lead screw material be bought in bulk?
Does anyone know the thread pitch of the Harbor Freight 7X10 lead screw?
I have had my lathe for 3 years now for building small IC engines and general turning...
I usually buy my stock in 12" lengths and a longer bed would be helpful...
Steve Langford



From: Michael Jablonski
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tue, February 12, 2013 11:40:15 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95
This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.
It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.
NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.
< = >


 

I believe it has something to do with the 16 inch bed being designed for use with a BLDC (Brushless Direct Current) motor which drives the spindle directly via a belt. The only SIEG lathes that I know of that have this arrangement are the Micromark 7x16 and the LMS Hi-Torque 7x12. The lathes that use the HI/LO gear arrangement are setup to drive the counter shaft with the HI/LO shift gear.
I'm sure it could probably be made to work with the HI/LO gear HS (Head Stock) but it might be more work that it is worth.
I seem to remember something about the motor mount being different also.
Chris at LMS might have other reasons as to why it won't work or at least why it is not recommended.

Michael - USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16


-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Lamson, Greg
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:26 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Why will the 16� bed extension not work with other 7X lathes? Are the ways of a different dimension than the HF & Grizzly?

From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:40 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95

This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.

It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.

NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.

< = >


harpanet13
 

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Steve Langford wrote:

Hello...
I am a new member here and I have the HF 7x10...
Was a member at the 7X10 group but they talk about politics there...
Has anyone taken the bed extension for the 7X10 and extended by adding to the
existing bed?
You might find this group of interest :



It is pretty much dead unfortunately but there is still quite a bit of info to be had.

HWF


Steve Langford
 

If I were to do I would have to have both beds faced where they meet clamp them to the underside of a piece of RR track, Nickel weld after pre-heating.
The lead screw had me stumped.
If I had the specs on the thread I might find one on ebay...
OR...Change out the half-nut with a common thread 1/2-16 etc...
Just a thought....
Steve Langford



From: Mark Schwiebert To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:22:30 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Steve;
You can pick up a used bed,and lead screw on here,and,if you bolt both beds down,and line them up ,you can add another 16 in.
Lead screws can be joined by turning a lap joint,and pin it.
Someone just had a bed for sale on here,and did not know if it sold.
Just ask the group if interested.


--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Steve Langford wrote:

From: Steve Langford
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 3:57 PM

Hello...
I am a new member here and I have the HF 7x10...
Was a member at the 7X10 group but they talk about politics there...
Has anyone taken the bed extension for the 7X10 and extended by adding to the existing bed?


I had thought it could be done with exception of a longer lead screw...
Can this lead screw material be bought in bulk?
Does anyone know the thread pitch of the Harbor Freight 7X10 lead screw?
I have had my lathe for 3 years now for building small IC engines and general turning...
I usually buy my stock in 12" lengths and a longer bed would be helpful...
Steve Langford



From: Michael Jablonski To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tue, February 12, 2013 11:40:15 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95
This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.
It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.
NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.
< = >


Steve Langford
 

Thank you HWF... I will.
Steve Langford



From: harpanet13
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 5:07:14 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95



--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Steve Langford wrote:
>
> Hello...
> I am a new member here and I have the HF 7x10...
> Was a member at the 7X10 group but they talk about politics there...
> Has anyone taken the bed extension for the 7X10 and extended by adding to the
> existing bed?
>
You might find this group of interest :



It is pretty much dead unfortunately but there is still quite a bit of info to be had.

HWF


 

It is the size of the motor compartment. The 14 inch kit has room for a 350 watt conventional motor, while the 16 inch kit is sized for the more compact stepper motor used in the Hi Torque lathes. In addition, the bolt hole spacing for the headstock appears different. Interestingly, the longer bed weighs 2 pounds LESS than the 14 inch bed! Probably because of the smaller motor compartment.

From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:26 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

I believe it has something to do with the 16 inch bed being designed for use with a BLDC (Brushless Direct Current) motor which drives the spindle directly via a belt. The only SIEG lathes that I know of that have this arrangement are the Micromark 7x16 and the LMS Hi-Torque 7x12. The lathes that use the HI/LO gear arrangement are setup to drive the counter shaft with the HI/LO shift gear.

I'm sure it could probably be made to work with the HI/LO gear HS (Head Stock) but it might be more work that it is worth.

I seem to remember something about the motor mount being different also.

Chris at LMS might have other reasons as to why it won't work or at least why it is not recommended.


Michael - USA

Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Lamson, Greg
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:26 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Why will the 16� bed extension not work with other 7X lathes? Are the ways of a different dimension than the HF & Grizzly?

From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:40 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95

This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.

It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.

NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.

< = >


MERTON B BAKER
 

I've done a couple of 7X bed extensions.� I mill the� two faces & bolt both beds to a 1/2" thick steel plate, full length and 6" wide.� The two leadscrews can be neatly spliced together, and a bit of extra length spliced in at the HS end.�
Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Steve Langford
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:25 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

If I were to do I would have to have both beds faced where they meet clamp them to the underside of a piece of RR track, Nickel weld after pre-heating.
The lead screw had me stumped.
If I had the specs on the thread I might find one on ebay...
OR...Change out the half-nut with a common thread 1/2-16 etc...
Just a thought....
Steve Langford



From: Mark Schwiebert
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:22:30 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Steve;
You can pick up a used bed,and lead screw on here,and,if you bolt both beds down,and line them up ,you can add another 16 in.
Lead screws can be joined by turning a lap joint,and pin it.
Someone just had a bed for sale on here,and did not know if it sold.
Just ask the group if interested.

--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Steve Langford wrote:

From: Steve Langford
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 3:57 PM

Hello...
I am a new member here and I have the HF 7x10...
Was a member at the 7X10 group but they talk about politics there...
Has anyone taken the bed extension for the 7X10 and extended by adding to the existing bed?


I had thought it could be done with exception of a longer lead screw...
Can this lead screw material be bought in bulk?
Does anyone know the thread pitch of the Harbor Freight 7X10 lead screw?
I have had my lathe for 3 years now for building small IC engines and general turning...
I usually buy my stock in 12" lengths and a longer bed would be helpful...
Steve Langford



From: Michael Jablonski
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tue, February 12, 2013 11:40:15 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95
This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.
It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.
NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.
< = >


 

Steve,
You might be able to adapt a leadscrew from an Atlas 6" lathe. Acme 16 TPI, 31-1/2" long, right end unthreaded for 1-5/8", left end unthreaded for 7-7/8". Didn't think to measure diameter of right end, left end diameter is 1/2" because that's the bore of the change gears. Left end drilled and tapped 1/4" x 20, also takes #3 woodruff key. I've seen it said that the 16 TPI thread form is stub tooth, haven't measured it for depth so I don't know. Replacement split nuts are available from Clausing and via Ebay.
Just a thought.
Anthony
Berkeley, Calif.
**
In a message dated Wed Feb13,2013 7:40pm (PST),Steve Langfordwrites:

If I were to do I would have to have both beds faced where they meet clamp them
to the underside of a piece of RR track, Nickel weld after pre-heating.
The lead screw had me stumped.
If I had the specs on the thread I might find one on ebay...
OR...Change out the half-nut with a common thread 1/2-16 etc...
Just a thought....


Steve Langford
 

I was thinking of using an Acme threaded rod with 2 matching nuts...
Make the half nut from the full nut...
I have seen the rod and nuts on ebay in various sizes and pitch...
Fairly reasonable...
Steve Langford



From: "anthrhodes@..."
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 11:33:09 AM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95

Steve,
You might be able to adapt a leadscrew from an Atlas 6" lathe. Acme 16 TPI, 31-1/2" long, right end unthreaded for 1-5/8", left end unthreaded for 7-7/8". Didn't think to measure diameter of right end, left end diameter is 1/2" because that's the bore of the change gears. Left end drilled and tapped 1/4" x 20, also takes #3 woodruff key. I've seen it said that the 16 TPI thread form is stub tooth, haven't measured it for depth so I don't know. Replacement split nuts are available from Clausing and via Ebay.
Just a thought.
Anthony
Berkeley, Calif.
**
In a message dated Wed Feb13,2013 7:40pm (PST),Steve Langfordwrites:
If I were to do I would have to have both beds faced where they meet clamp them
to the underside of a piece of RR track, Nickel weld after pre-heating.
The lead screw had me stumped.
If I had the specs on the thread I might find one on ebay...
OR...Change out the half-nut with a common thread 1/2-16 etc...
Just a thought....


MERTON B BAKER
 

If you buy the bed extension from LMS, they send the new LS along with it.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Steve Langford
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:04 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16"
$99.95





I was thinking of using an Acme threaded rod with 2 matching nuts...
Make the half nut from the full nut...
I have seen the rod and nuts on ebay in various sizes and pitch...
Fairly reasonable...


Steve Langford





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From: "anthrhodes@..."
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 11:33:09 AM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95



Steve,

You might be able to adapt a leadscrew from an Atlas 6" lathe. Acme 16
TPI, 31-1/2" long, right end unthreaded for 1-5/8", left end unthreaded for
7-7/8". Didn't think to measure diameter of right end, left end diameter is
1/2" because that's the bore of the change gears. Left end drilled and
tapped 1/4" x 20, also takes #3 woodruff key. I've seen it said that the 16
TPI thread form is stub tooth, haven't measured it for depth so I don't
know. Replacement split nuts are available from Clausing and via Ebay.

Just a thought.

Anthony
Berkeley, Calif.
**
In a message dated Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:40 pm (PST), Steve Langford writes:
If I were to do I would have to have both beds faced where they meet
clamp them
to the underside of a piece of RR track, Nickel weld after pre-heating.
The lead screw had me stumped.
If I had the specs on the thread I might find one on ebay...
OR...Change out the half-nut with a common thread 1/2-16 etc...
Just a thought....