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Re: Finally, a project!
Jerry Durand
On 10/15/2011 12:22 AM, Bill Vance wrote:
Here's a possible for your list: "Workholding In The Lathe", by TubalWhen I was testing military and aerospace parts we found a particular "super glue" was handy for mounting the parts for shock testing. A tiny drop held very well in tension and when the test was done a light tap with a brass mallet on the side caused the glue to fail. A little cleanup and put the next part on. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand |
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Re: Uni 3,w/threading att.,9masters,220v. motor. for sale
MERTON B BAKER
Dunno what the masters are selling for now. Email off list for pix. All
the masters are in their little boxes. I would probably get more selling them separately rather than with the lathe, but they were together when I bought it. The Thread Att. box goes with it. All offers thoughtfully considered, and off list request for pix will be fulfilled. Mert mertbaker@... Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Buying a mini-lathe
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true/correct)..
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Also talking pricing.
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I got my roughly 2+ years ago maybe..?
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and I got mine for dirt cheap!
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was on sale at HF (NOT ADVERTISED SALE).. just a call.. ask
for price. saw it was $449..
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went in.. used an ADDITIONAL 20% off coupon..? order it..
walked out paying $379+ after all was said and done and taxes..etc.
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Re: Buying a mini-lathe
MERTON B BAKER
More on this price thing. I bought that 7x10 for just under $300 in the
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early 90s. I paid $130 for the DB200 in 1958. According to the official US government inflation calculator, the buying power of 130 1958 dollars equals that of 431 dollars in 1990. The bare bones 7x10 is 20 times the lathe the Uni is. It does lake the ability to be turned into a mill/drill, though. Let's be fair. Mert -----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe MUCH MUCH more!!! but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds).. and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run chuck in opposite direction) (without tumbler gear or whatever) Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x is like a shoe bow! ----- Original Message ----- From: John Brookes To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560. The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x. j |
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Re: Buying a mini-lathe
MERTON B BAKER
Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
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belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't even think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12, (really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe, for anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack only the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I do have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull pin & engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of torque at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW, I bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my Unimat DB200. Mert -----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe MUCH MUCH more!!! but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds).. and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run chuck in opposite direction) (without tumbler gear or whatever) Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x is like a shoe bow! ----- Original Message ----- From: John Brookes To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560. The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x. j |
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Re: Where to buy magnetic-base work lamp
The quality of light is what will damage your eyes over time. The the CF
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you get lots of light but you might not see detail well. It is in the fine detail were accidents happen. I use compare light to food as an example. You get lots of hamburgers cheaply and are fed. But over time you pay for the savings in health problems. With light the health problems will be injuries and poor eye sight. Cheers, Andrew On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 01:25 -0500, Michael Taglieri wrote:
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Re: Finally, a project!
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 05:21:50AM -0400, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:21:50 -0400Here's a possible for your list: "Workholding In The Lathe", by Tubal Cain. It even includes some really old methods like glueing stuff to the face plate with several glue recipes. I suspect this method isn't in use that much these days, as after operations cleanup probably involves something like one part turpentine, and 99 parts elbow grease. :-) Bill Play with your lathe, and make a |
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Re: Where to buy magnetic-base work lamp
Michael Taglieri
I can see why "quality of light" would matter to someone matching colors or
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something, but why does it matter to machining? My shop is all CF bulbs, except one incandescent bulb near the lathe because I sometimes use it as a source of heat. (In fact, my whole house is CF bulbs except for one on my desk that my cat likes to sit under, again as a source of heat). Mike Taglieri miket_nyc@... Everyone has his reasons. - Jean Renoir "The Rules of the Game" ----- Original Message ----- > On 09/26/2011 05:02 PM, Andrew wrote:
They phased out the 'normal" incandescent bulbs in Australia. The only |
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Re: Buying a mini-lathe
Is there a 20 per cent coupon code that will work with sale items? I just tested Coupon Code : DISC20 and no-go.
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Thanks Cliff --- In 7x12minilathe@..., John Brookes <haiticare2011@...> wrote:
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Re: Buying a mini-lathe
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMUCH MUCH more!!!
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but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt
speeds)..
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(only if you run chuck in opposite direction)
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(without tumbler gear or whatever)
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Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the
8x..? The 7x is like a shoe bow!
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Re: Finally, a project!
MERTON B BAKER
Nope. Military mortars have the propellant in the rear of the projectile,
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together with the primer. When the projectile is dropped down the tube, a projection in the base goes into the propellant tube and fires it, sort of like a reversed gun, with the bullet held still in the base of the mortar, and the barrel, with the tail fins on it, goes out with the mortar shell. Not sure how RPGs work; were they true rockets, like those fired from a bazooka, the escaping gas would fry the firer. There is a lethal zone for several yards to the rear of one of those when it's fired. In a mortar, the gas pressure behind the projectile is quite low, once it's on its way up the tube. Mert -----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Jerry Durand Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:23 PM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Finally, a project! On 10/14/2011 10:56 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote: Propellant powders have improved drastically since those days. ModernAre you thinking of rocket propelled grenades? Fireworks have a big ball or cylinder sitting on a bag of black powder, they are NOT rockets no matter how many reporters call them that. These are mortars in the old sense, big pipe with a big bang at the bottom blowing a heavy thing out the other end. I also make rockets but they're not for public displays (too expensive and way too dangerous for anything but a closed range in the middle of nowhere). ts_12-14.JPG -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: lathe table
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lathe table top?is a 4 foot wide piece of kitchen laminated counter top.
Picked it up at Home Depot a few years ago for like $20. Made the base out of
2x4s and lag screws. The top has a nice back splash built into it to keep things
from rolling off the back of it, and the front has the common raised rolled lip
to keep things from rolling and dripping off the front.
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Re: lathe table
hmmm. About tables, the easiest table is a 21$ wood door from Home Despot and plastic saw horses underneath. You can varnish the wood door, or just flip it over in a year. The door has a nice wood grain finish that is pleasant to look at.
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Some will say this is too flimsy. I would have thought so myself, until recently I put wheels on my very rigid lathe table. The rubber wheels make the table pretty squishy, but the operation of the lathe does not seem to be affected. I am not even aware of it as I work with the lathe. ?I work with a 8x14 lathe HF. JB On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Clint wrote:
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Re: Finally, a project!
Jerry Durand
On 10/14/2011 10:56 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
Propellant powders have improved drastically since those days. ModernAre you thinking of rocket propelled grenades? Fireworks have a big ball or cylinder sitting on a bag of black powder, they are NOT rockets no matter how many reporters call them that. These are mortars in the old sense, big pipe with a big bang at the bottom blowing a heavy thing out the other end. I also make rockets but they're not for public displays (too expensive and way too dangerous for anything but a closed range in the middle of nowhere). -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand |
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Re: lathe table
Clint
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýCan I get some details on the solution that you mentioned?? I have an
epoxy garage floor that I need to clean.? Normal floor cleaners do not seem
to work.
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Regards,
Clint
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Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: lathe table ?
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A mixture of Simple Green and Dawn work great as a cleaner for the
epoxy.? If you work in your garage and prone to dropping small parts on the
floor, like myself, those little paint chips they provide to help break up the
color are your worst enemy.? It is amazing how it helps to hide small parts
like scope mounting screws and springs.
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From: Vince Vielhaber To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: lathe table ?
Well I'm glad I didn't put it on my floor then. I clean alot of oily things with brake clean and don't always do it over the sink. On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Randal Williams wrote: > The drying time of the epoxy when you roll it on the floor is stated to be 7 days.? I have done three different garages with the stuff.? You can get it to dissolve with carb or brake cleaner if you are not careful.? The recommendation for putting a large aluminum pan under the lathe is excellent. > > -rw > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vince Vielhaber <mailto:vev%40michvhf.com> > To: mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:35 AM > Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: lathe table > > >? > > I'm just throwing this out there 'cuze I don't know how well it would > work on MDF, but what about epoxy, like you use on cement floors. It > would certainly seal and protect it. > > On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, mattdbartlett wrote: > >> Hmm, MDF is pretty delicate. You might want to think about covering that with something else, like a piece of galvanized, or a sheet of masonite. If you just want to protect from oil (mdf is pretty absorbent), maybe a couple coats of water based polyurethane. That should make the mdf a little tougher if you stick with just the plain mdf. >> >> --- In mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com, george curtis wrote: >>> >>> my bil is gonna put my lathe table together for me. we are wanting to know what >>> is best to protect the table, mdf, before we put the lathe on. >>> thanks, >>>? >>> george >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > Vince. > -- > Michigan VHF Corp. http://www.nobucks.net/ http://www.CDupe.com/ > Vince. -- Michigan VHF Corp. |
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Re: lathe table
Here in the UK I bought a can of floor paint marketed by "Rustoleum". A concrete floor which was very dusty. The paint went on very well indeed, two coats and it is wearing very well.
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Kind regards, David Wiseman Sent from my BlackBerry mobile phone -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Francis <bobf0648@...> Sender: 7x12minilathe@... Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:54:50 To: <7x12minilathe@...> Reply-To: 7x12minilathe@... Cc: Randal Williams<azizavfr@...> Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: lathe table If you want a REAL floor covering, try this. Almost indestructible! ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Finally, a project!
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In article <ED2FDFD2-062B-4A8B-90D7-4F8551896F10@...>,
John Brookes <haiticare2011@...> wrote: I just jumped in here. The machining of the brass mortar barrelOrdinary CRS won't harden much because it doesn't contain sufficient carbon. However, as any steel is harder than brass, it will cut. -- Stuart |
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Re: Finally, a project!
MERTON B BAKER
Propellant powders have improved drastically since those days. Modern
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mortar tubes to not have to contain the explosion, and are made a thin and light as possible. They serve only the guidance function. Mert -----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 12:42 PM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Finally, a project! I just jumped in here. The machining of the brass mortar barrel interesting. I notice he made a cutting tool from heating and quenching ordinary CRS. Is this generally possible? Of course, brass is soft, and thats why he can get away with it. If you were making a mortar with modern materials, wouldn't you just use steel pipe? In WW2, the military used light weight mortars. How did they overcome the problem of excessive weight which plagued these CW pieces? JB On Oct 14, 2011, at 11:16 AM, ralph_pattersonus wrote: I think this is the project that was referred to...wrote: reach toon a 12x36, & requires a jig. I had a friend with a 2.5" dia. gun drill workease the labor. Mert lathe.for industrial lathes in the 14x/3000 kg sizes, and above. theAbout half of nominal swing. 0.5later ones where rpm will be about 150). ainches. toolist, but there are some out there already) Play with your lathe, and yearsbig stopin you. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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