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Re: Moments of Terror in Machining


MERTON B BAKER
 

Very few of the tools I have bought from HF were junk. Those few were
returned, and either swapped for good stuff, or my money refunded. The
cases I remember is from years ago, when any order over $200 was shipped
free. On the first one, I bought that 4x6 bandsaw, among other things. I
think it was $150 then, & the total order made the free shipping amount.
The order arrived, and the bandsaw had broken castings, & went back. The
replacement had broken castings as well, and went back. So did #3.
Finally, the 4th one was whole, & I've used it for over 20 years. HF did
not make a great deal, shipping those things back & forth. The second one
was another free shipping deal, over 50 free, and the big Vise, on sale at
40 bux was backordered. The other stuff was light, and arrived OK. The
vise arrived missing a part or something, and went back. This time, the
replacement was OK. All that stuff arrived via UPS, and shipping heavy
stuff UPS costs. Even with a special contract.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of john brookes
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:08 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Moments of Terror in Machining


my hf tool grinder has zero tendency to walk. I just placed it on a table
and it has no vibration.
here's my advice on buying cheap chinese: Go to Harbor Freight online and
READ THE REVIEWS. In truth, Chinese stuff is a mixture of good and bad. HF
has EXCELLENT stuff, if you READ THE REVIEWS. The magnifying swing arm lamp
is a great bargain at $25 now.
JB



On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:48 PM, "David Wiseman" <david@...>
wrote:

Mert

I can. Only agree with you, my grinder is bolted down on a shelf, still
tries to take the shelf off the wall.

Kind regards,

David Wiseman

Sent from my BlackBerry mobile phone

-----Original Message-----
From: "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...>
Sender: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 12:32:39
To: <7x12minilathe@...>
Reply-To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Moments of Terror in Machining

My problem with overseas grinders are First, the two I've bought take
nearly a full minute to get up to speed, and nearly ten seconds to stop
under load, grinding toolbits. Second the wheels are so far out of
balance,
that they would hp around on the floor, didn't dare run 'em up on the
bench
for fear they'd fall off. With no wheels on, there was still a little
tendency to walk around.



-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of fmvf@...
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:04 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Moments of Terror in Machining


I purchased a grinder from HF a long time ago when quality was an unknown
word "there" (across the ocean). The grinder suffered similar symptoms,
using it for 5 minutes it would get too hot to touch. I stopped using it
and made a grinder from an old pump motor (C-flange) and a set of pillow
block bearings mounted on a piece of channel 6" wide X 1/4" thick. This
set
up lasted me almost 22 years but finally had to retire it because the
internal wiring, not the windings, got so brittle the insulation started
to
crack in several places.

I recently purchased another one from HF and I'm happy to report that I
can
use it for about 30 minutes before it gets too hot. They're not too much
different from what my first one was, just a little better. Quality
grinders cost way too much for us to justify buying one.

Frank.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Kevin" <kcc-groups@...> wrote:

And to follow up. I did some research since I'm now in the market for a
new grinder :-)

Is Baldor the ONLY company not sourcing their grinders from China or
Taiwan?

I know Craftsman, DeWalt (B&D), and the others have moved production
overseas, but I was surprised that Delta, Rockwell, Porter-Cable, and
especially Palmgren all seem to be using Chinese factories.

So this may be a little off topic, but I'd love to hear comments about
the
different grinders and people's thoughts, experiences with the different
brands.

Obviously, I'd love a Baldor, but starting at over $500 retail it's kind
of tough to justify spending as much on the grinder as I did on the lathe.
:-) And yes, I'm checking craigslist!

Kevin

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Kevin" <kcc-groups@> wrote:

I was sharpening some tools on my 6" Chinese (Homier) grinder today when
I started to smell something a little funny but I continue working. After
about 10 minutes, I notice that the grinder is getting hot so I go to get
my
infrared thermometer.

In the next few minutes, I watched the grinder go from 130 to over 180
degrees Fahrenheit. I turned it off.

Just to get a complete picture I took off the wheels and turned the
grinder on with no load. Within 5 minutes, the temperature was over 200
degrees. This is where I chickened out and reached to turn it off, but I
saw a wisp of smoke coming from the grinder.

This grinder cannot have more than a few hours on it at most. I only
purchased it about 2 years ago and it's ground maybe a dozen lathe tools.

It was cheap so I don't mind the money so much, but the thought if this
had been a motor on a band saw or other tool that is more automated, the
resulting fire would be very bad.

So one more example of being careful of the ratings on the Chinese
motors.


Kevin



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