From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ian@yorkshirebus via groups.io <yorkshirebus@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2024 8:42:52 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ydbn] Sheffield consultations

Indeed, all largely positive, with the exception of the Lane Top, Ecclesfield Village and Chapeltown areas of Sheffield who loose the 1a with no replacement (Lane Top and Chapeltown still have the Stagecoach 1, but this is essentially a halving in provision for those areas).

I'm sure a Rotherham/Crystal Peaks - Sheffield Parkway - City Centre - University - Walkley service looks good on paper and probably makes for good vehicle utilisation, but has delays written all over it. Can't imagine there's that much cross-city traffic so surely for reliability purposes separate the Sheffield - Walkley leg out in to a separate route?

Notable also how the new 55/55a seems to be largely a carbon copy of the TM Travel 30 service (Crystal Peaks - Woodhouse - Parkway - Sheffield) and the new 75a runs over the top of the (tendered) TM 32 service between Northern General - Firth Park - Parson Cross - Foxhill. Wonder why First are deciding to go after some parts of the TM network?

Ian


On Thursday, July 4, 2024, Adam Williams via <amodelofcontrol=[email protected]> wrote:
> Seen elsewhere, there are proposed changes in Sheffield and Rotherham/Barnsley that are now out for consultation - and for the first time in a while, there actually seem to be some improvements rather than just cuts.
> Notable changes are the removal of the 95 to Walkley (replaced by the 54/55, providing a better?and faster link from Handsworth the other side of town), the return of the 47/48, an extension of the 56 to Manor Top, and frequency increases on the 81/82 and 88...
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> 1 High Green | Sheffield | Batemoor
> Minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality.
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> 2 Barnsley | Chapeltown | Sheffield
> Minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality.
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> 2a GXO Logistics | Chapeltown | Sheffield
> Buses to run non-stop between Hoyland and Chapeltown, as well as minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality.
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> 6 Millhouses | Sheffield
> Minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality.
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> 10 & 10a Manor Top | Sheffield circular
> Minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality.
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> 52 Woodhouse | Sheffield | Crookes | Hillsborough
> Buses on the 52 extended to start and finish in Hillsborough all day, with the timetable changed to reflect this and improve punctuality.
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> 57 & 57a Stocksbridge | Sheffield
> Minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality, with more evening journeys between Sheffield and Stocksbridge provided by later journeys on the 57a.
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> 83 Chapeltown | Sheffield | Fulwood
> Minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality.
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> 86 Chapeltown | Sheffield | Lowedges
> Minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality.
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> 88 Ecclesfield | Sheffield | Bents Green
> Buses to run more often, now up to every 12 minutes. Route also to change in the Firth Park area, buses to use Firth Park Road between Firth Park and Fir Vale instead of Hucklow Road and Barnsley Road. New timetable introduced to reflect these changes and improve punctuality.
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> 120 Halfway | Sheffield | Fulwood
> Minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality.
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> STAGECOACH - ROTHERHAM & BARNSLEY
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> 21 Penistone | Silkstone Common | Barnsley
> The Monday to Friday journeys starting from Barnsley at 2.45pm and Penistone at 3.31pm will no longer serve Clarel Street, Chapel Field Lane, Bluebell Avenue and Park Avenue in Penistone.
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> electro 22x Rotherham | Wath | Barnsley
> Evening and Sunday buses will run more often, up to every 30 minutes, and more buses will run in the mornings on Monday to Friday.
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> 27b Wombwell | Grimethorpe | Barnsley
> The Monday to Friday journey starting from Barnsley at 8.35am will change to start at 8.30am and run 5 minutes earlier throughout its trip.
> The Monday to Friday journey starting from Wombwell at 2.35pm will no longer serve Michael’s Estate, Meadow Crescent, Springfield Road and Stacey Crescent in Grimethorpe.
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> 32 Cudworth | Barnsley
> The Monday to Friday journey starting from Barnsley at 8.25am will no longer run.
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> 66 Elsecar | Hoyland | Barnsley
> There will be an extra early morning journey and more evening journeys.
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> 108 Rotherham | Rawmarsh
> The journey starting from Rotherham at 11.41pm will change to start at 11.21pm and run 20 minutes earlier throughout its trip.
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> 135 Chapeltown | Rotherham
> The stop buses wait at in Chapeltown before starting the journey to Rotherham will change from Lound Side/Market Place to Cowley Lane/Falding Street, across the roundabout. You can still get off the 135 at Lound Side/Market Place. Times at other stops won’t change.
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> 216 Rotherham | Mexborough | Wath | Cortonwood
> New service between Rotherham, Mexborough, Wath and Cortonwood. Buses on this new route will run hourly Monday to Saturday replacing some 218 journeys between Rotherham and Mexborough.
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> 217 Rotherham | Mexborough | Goldthorpe | Barnsley
> 217 will be the new route number for the 218a. The route will stay the same and buses will run hourly with some changes to times to improve punctuality.
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> 218 & 218a Rotherham | Mexborough | Goldthorpe | Barnsley
> We’re making some changes to these routes to bring new links following customer suggestions. Here’s a summary, with more details further below.
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> ? New links will be available with an hourly service between Rotherham, Mexborough, Wath and Cortonwood Retail Park.
> ? Between Mexborough, Goldthorpe and Barnsley buses will run hourly.
> ? Buses between Rotherham and Mexborough will run as often as they do now and at similar times, although the route number of the bus you use might change.
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> See the proposed timetable?here
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> A new route 216 will be introduced. The 216 will use the same route as the 218 between Rotherham and Mexborough then continue through Wath to Cortonwood Retail Park. Buses on the 216 will run hourly during the day Monday to Saturday running at similar times to the current 218 between Rotherham and Mexborough.
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> Journeys on the 218 between Rotherham and Barnsley will only run during Monday to Friday rush hours. Evening and Sunday journeys on the 218 between Rotherham and Mexborough will not change.
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> The 218a will have a new route number, 217. Buses on the 217 will use the same route as the 218a does now and will run hourly with some changes to times to improve punctuality.
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> 219 Barnsley | Thurnscoe | Sprotbrough | Doncaster
> Changes to Monday to Friday morning journeys.
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> ? A new journey will run from Thurnscoe to Doncaster, starting at 6.05am arriving in Doncaster at 6.56am.
> ? The journey starting form Doncaster at 6.46am will be changed to start at 7.05am and run 19 minutes later throughout its trip.
> ? The journey starting from Doncaster at 7.31am will no longer run between Doncaster and Darfield. It will still run between Darfield and Barnsley, starting at 8.46am
> ? The journeys starting from Barnsley at 6.10am and Goldthorpe at 7.31am will no longer run.
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> electro 221 Rotherham | Mexborough | Conisbrough | Doncaster
> Evening and Sunday buses will run more often, up to every 30 minutes. The route will change in Mexborough; buses will use Harlington Road and Plumpton Avenue between Princess Road and Coniston Road, instead of Morton Road and Hirst Gate. Three new stops will be put in place along the newly served roads.
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> X19 Barnsley | Goldthorpe | Doncaster
> Timetable changes to improve punctuality, with most journeys from Barnsley starting 5 minutes earlier and some changes to morning journeys.
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> 8/8a - Ecclesfield - Birley
> Changes will create one bus per hour going to Birley Tram stop. The route will be split at Thornbridge Drive and operate hourly to Dyke Vale Road and hourly to existing terminus at Birley Tram stop.
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> 1a/11 Herdings - City Centre - Chapeltown
> Customers using these services, please not that they will be replaced by the reintroduction of services 47/48 in Gleadless Valley and changes to service 75 in the North of Sheffield.
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> 18/18a City Centre - Hillsborough
> Frequency increased to every 30 minutes between City and Hollythorpe Rise. Daytime journey will revert to pre covid route between Meadowhall and Firth Park - no longer serving Margate Drive.
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> 41 - Dyke Vale Road - Sheffield Circular
> This service is proposed to be withdrawn and replaced by new services 8a.
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> 47/48 - reintroduced service?- replacing 1a/11 Shiregreen - City - Herdings Circular
> These popular services will be reintroduced replacing the 1a/11 in Gleadless Valley, and services 75/76 in Shiregreen. These will reconnect the whole of Gleadless Valley with buses running a circular route from Newfield Green. Buses will run up to every 10 minutes.
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> 51 - Lodge Moor - Charnock - via City Centre
> Revised timetable including an earlier departure from Charnock. No change to the route.
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> 52a - Woodhouse - Loxley - via City Centre
> Additional journeys for Loxley including a Sunday service.
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> 54 - new service -Rotherham - Brinsworth - Treeton - Waverley - Handsworth - City Centre - University - Walkley
> New proposed service providing a quick service for Handsworth, Waverley and Treeton to Sheffield every 30 minutes which also passes by Sheffield University.
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> 55/55a - New service - Crystal Peaks - Woodhouse/Aston - Handsworth - City Centre - University - Walkley
> Proposed new service providing a quicker service for Handsworth to Sheffield, also passing by Sheffield University. Crystal Peaks to Aston service will be restored serving Mason Avenue.
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> 56 Nether Edge - City - Wybourn
> This service is proposed to be extended from Wybourn via Manor Park Crescent to Manor Park Centre, providing local links from Wybourn to the shops at Manor Park Centre,
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> 73 - Rotherham - Sheffield City Centre - via Treeton
> Daytime service is proposed to be withdrawn, but service 54 will operate every 30 minutes as a replacement for Waverley, Treeton, Brinsworth and Canklow.
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> 75/76 - New route for North Sheffield
> 75 - will serve Northen General Hospital and extended from Shiregreen to Chapeltown twice an hour, replacing service 1a. Two an hour will run from Shiregreen via Parson Cross (Asda) to Foxhill.
> 76 - will serve Northern General Hospital and from Firth Park, will run to Meadowhall replacing service 95. Shiregreen will also be served by old route number 47 and 48.
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> 81/82 - New route in Ecclesall
> Frequency increase to every 15 minutes. Service 82 will be rerouted restoring a service to Greystones and High Storrs School (half hourly)
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> 95/95a - Walkley - City Centre - Meadowhall
> Proposed to withdraw this service and replace by new services 54/55/55a and changes to 75/76.
> City - Walkley stays every 15 mins with service 54/55
> City - Meadowhall stays every 15 minutes with service 76.
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> 207/208 -Sheffield City Centre - Rotherham via Brinsworth/Whiston
> All journeys will run as service 207 with daytime journeys to extend to Rotherham serving Rotherham Hospital. Howarth Road in Brinsworth will be served partly replacing service 73.
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