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It's been over a month which I think is long enough to get people to vote on the issue, the results are;
60 votes or 60% to move to Groups.io
16 votes or 16% to stay until something happens
12 votes or 13% to let the moderators decide
2 votes or 2% not interested in the subject
2 votes or 2% to delete the group.
Not a very decisive size group voted but I was expecting that as most people just read the messages and are not active.
A total of 92 votes of the members that cared one way or the other.
One thing to keep in mind the move requires no action on the part of the members it's all done by groups .io, they would move the memberaccount, files, photos, and messages, all I have to do is send them an email to go ahead as everything is already setup.
In the meantime as a safety measure I bought some software and I have a complete local backup of the groups files, photos, and all messages in case of a nuclear meltdown at Verizon/AOL the new owners of Yahoo groups. Right now there is no mechanism to use that backup to restore the user data somewhere else but the software can generate a MySQL database so software could be written to do a restore somewhere else, that is why I spent some money to have a backup of the groups data.
So what do we do next?
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Opps a mistake in the votes tally 65% to move to groups.io 17% to wait and see what happens On 7/22/2017 10:46 AM, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@... [softrock40] wrote:
It's been over a month which I think is long enough to get people to
vote on the issue, the results are;
60 votes or 60% to move to Groups.io
16 votes or 16% to stay until something happens
12 votes or 13% to let the moderators decide
2 votes or 2% not interested in the subject
2 votes or 2% to delete the group.
Not a very decisive size group voted but I was expecting that as most
people just read the messages and are not active.
A total of 92 votes of the members that cared one way or the other.
One thing to keep in mind the move requires no action on the part of the
members it's all done by groups .io, they would move the memberaccount,
files, photos, and messages, all I have to do is send them an email to
go ahead as everything is already setup.
In the meantime as a safety measure I bought some software and I have a
complete local backup of the groups files, photos, and all messages in
case of a nuclear meltdown at Verizon/AOL the new owners of Yahoo
groups. Right now there is no mechanism to use that backup to restore
the user data somewhere else but the software can generate a MySQL
database so software could be written to do a restore somewhere else,
that is why I spent some money to have a backup of the groups data.
So what do we do next?
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Bogus because you have to log into Yahoo to vote. Most of us dont do that. We just take the plain text emails.?
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On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@... [softrock40] < softrock40@...> wrote:
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It's been over a month which I think is long enough to get people to
vote on the issue, the results are;
60 votes or 60% to move to
16 votes or 16% to stay until something happens
12 votes or 13% to let the moderators decide
2 votes or 2% not interested in the subject
2 votes or 2% to delete the group.
Not a very decisive size group voted but I was expecting that as most
people just read the messages and are not active.
A total of 92 votes of the members that cared one way or the other.
One thing to keep in mind the move requires no action on the part of the
members it's all done by groups .io, they would move the memberaccount,
files, photos, and messages, all I have to do is send them an email to
go ahead as everything is already setup.
In the meantime as a safety measure I bought some software and I have a
complete local backup of the groups files, photos, and all messages in
case of a nuclear meltdown at Verizon/AOL the new owners of Yahoo
groups. Right now there is no mechanism to use that backup to restore
the user data somewhere else but the software can generate a MySQL
database so software could be written to do a restore somewhere else,
that is why I spent some money to have a backup of the groups data.
So what do we do next?
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Cecil,
If you took the time to have a poll and the numbers aren't even close I would say you have your answer. ?
I recently migrated a group to and it was seamless.
73, Tim KB2MFS
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@... [softrock40] <softrock40@...> wrote:
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It's been over a month which I think is long enough to get people to
vote on the issue, the results are;
60 votes or 60% to move to Groups.io
16 votes or 16% to stay until something happens
12 votes or 13% to let the moderators decide
2 votes or 2% not interested in the subject
2 votes or 2% to delete the group.
Not a very decisive size group voted but I was expecting that as most
people just read the messages and are not active.
A total of 92 votes of the members that cared one way or the other.
One thing to keep in mind the move requires no action on the part of the
members it's all done by groups .io, they would move the memberaccount,
files, photos, and messages, all I have to do is send them an email to
go ahead as everything is already setup.
In the meantime as a safety measure I bought some software and I have a
complete local backup of the groups files, photos, and all messages in
case of a nuclear meltdown at Verizon/AOL the new owners of Yahoo
groups. Right now there is no mechanism to use that backup to restore
the user data somewhere else but the software can generate a MySQL
database so software could be written to do a restore somewhere else,
that is why I spent some money to have a backup of the groups data.
So what do we do next?
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Pull the trigger and do it. ? Tim, KQ8M ?
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To: softrock40@...
Subject: Re: [softrock40] Move to groups.io Poll results? ? Bogus because you have to log into Yahoo to vote. Most of us dont do that. We just take the plain text emails.?
Sent from my iPad ? It's been over a month which I think is long enough to get people to
vote on the issue, the results are;
60 votes or 60% to move to
16 votes or 16% to stay until something happens
12 votes or 13% to let the moderators decide
2 votes or 2% not interested in the subject
2 votes or 2% to delete the group.
Not a very decisive size group voted but I was expecting that as most
people just read the messages and are not active.
A total of 92 votes of the members that cared one way or the other.
One thing to keep in mind the move requires no action on the part of the
members it's all done by groups .io, they would move the memberaccount,
files, photos, and messages, all I have to do is send them an email to
go ahead as everything is already setup.
In the meantime as a safety measure I bought some software and I have a
complete local backup of the groups files, photos, and all messages in
case of a nuclear meltdown at Verizon/AOL the new owners of Yahoo
groups. Right now there is no mechanism to use that backup to restore
the user data somewhere else but the software can generate a MySQL
database so software could be written to do a restore somewhere else,
that is why I spent some money to have a backup of the groups data.
So what do we do next?
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Bogus? Well a month back we had the discussion on the list and hardly anyone participated either, actually way less than 92 responded in any way so the survey had a lot more responses. So in your opinion is a not bogus way to discuss this issue? On 7/22/2017 11:59 AM, W2xj w2xj@... [softrock40] wrote: Bogus because you have to log into Yahoo to vote. Most of us dont do
that. We just take the plain text emails.
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@...
<mailto:cecil.bayona@...> [softrock40]
<softrock40@... <mailto:softrock40@...>> wrote:
It's been over a month which I think is long enough to get people to
vote on the issue, the results are;
60 votes or 60% to move to Groups.io <>
16 votes or 16% to stay until something happens
12 votes or 13% to let the moderators decide
2 votes or 2% not interested in the subject
2 votes or 2% to delete the group.
Not a very decisive size group voted but I was expecting that as most
people just read the messages and are not active.
A total of 92 votes of the members that cared one way or the other.
One thing to keep in mind the move requires no action on the part of the
members it's all done by groups .io, they would move the memberaccount,
files, photos, and messages, all I have to do is send them an email to
go ahead as everything is already setup.
In the meantime as a safety measure I bought some software and I have a
complete local backup of the groups files, photos, and all messages in
case of a nuclear meltdown at Verizon/AOL the new owners of Yahoo
groups. Right now there is no mechanism to use that backup to restore
the user data somewhere else but the software can generate a MySQL
database so software could be written to do a restore somewhere else,
that is why I spent some money to have a backup of the groups data.
So what do we do next?
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Cecil - k5nwa
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It's not that those that didn't vote can't log in, but that they chose not to be bothered to.
Matthew Pitts
N8OHU On July 22, 2017 1:57:26 PM EDT, "Mike Waters mikewate@... [softrock40]" wrote:
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Because I don't do HTML based lists and frankly cant remember the credentials. Its all too much effort for too little result. I like my info pushed, not pulled.
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Hi All,
I also use text only in my E-mail client. I find it awful
to have to have to paste html pages into my browser although
I did it in this case and was able to provide my vote
(let the administrator decide)
The appropriate thing to me would have been to ask readers of
this list to make a posting with Subject = "vote" or something
where everybody could give his voice openly. Just press the
reply button and give your alternative A to D (or whatever.)
I can log in because I had to get an youtube ID in order to
be able to upload videos. If I would not have had that, I
would surely not have created an ID just in order to be able
to vote on the future of this list. Knowing there is now a
backup I do not think the issue is important. Information will
survive:-)
73
Leif
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Because I don't do HTML based lists and frankly cant remember the credentials. Its all too much effort for too little result. I like my info pushed, not pulled.
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 22, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Mike Waters mikewate@... [softrock40] <softrock40@...> wrote:
Why can't you log in?
On Jul 22, 2017 12:55 PM, "W2xj w2xj@... [softrock40]" <softrock40@...> wrote:
Bogus because you have to log into Yahoo to vote. Most of us dont do that. We just take the plain text emails.
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Cecil,
Vox Populi, Vox Dei! At least the popular vote
supports the outcome alluded to by Tim—q.v. recent events in The
Americas.
Robin, G8DQX (who was brought up to be a participative democrat)
On 22/07/17 19:01, Tim Campbell
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Cecil,
If you took the time to have a poll and the numbers aren't
even close I would say you have your answer. ?
I recently migrated a group to and it was seamless.
73,
Tim KB2MFS
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Maybe there's only 100 or so of us who are really interested anymore. Not that this means we should break up the group. I belong to some groups with about a dozen people in them.
As several have said, the change to is painless and it's free. I'm on several groups that have already made the transition. 73, Zack W9SZ
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I wont join any group that does not deliver plain text email without credentials.?
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On Jul 23, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Zack Widup w9sz.zack@... [softrock40] < softrock40@...> wrote:
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Maybe there's only 100 or so of us who are really interested anymore. Not that this means we should break up the group. I belong to some groups with about a dozen people in them.
As several have said, the change to is painless and it's free. I'm on several groups that have already made the transition. 73, Zack W9SZ
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The is almost identical to Yahoogroups as far as the e-mail forwarding is concerned. I've had no problem with the others I'm on.
73, Zack W9SZ ?
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:12 AM, W2xj w2xj@... [softrock40] <softrock40@...> wrote:
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I wont join any group that does not deliver plain text email without credentials.?
Sent from my iPad
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Maybe there's only 100 or so of us who are really interested anymore. Not that this means we should break up the group. I belong to some groups with about a dozen people in them.
As several have said, the change to is painless and it's free. I'm on several groups that have already made the transition. 73, Zack W9SZ
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On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 09:06:53AM -0500, Zack Widup w9sz.zack@... [softrock40] wrote: Maybe there's only 100 or so of us who are really interested anymore. Not
that this means we should break up the group. I belong to some groups with
about a dozen people in them.
I'm interested in the posts that are not people drivelling on about how to solve problems with Windows sound drivers :-) I'd prefer plain-text emails to HTML, and I wouldn't follow the group across to a forum. I'm already on a forum - which is one that I run, which costs about 50 quid a year in servers and domain registration, is entirely secure, not spied on by the NSA, and not selling information to third parties. I find forums a total pain in the arse to use and prefer mailing lists. -- Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
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groups.io delivers mail text or html your choice. On 7/23/2017 10:12 AM, W2xj w2xj@... [softrock40] wrote: I wont join any group that does not deliver plain text email without
credentials.
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On Jul 23, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Zack Widup w9sz.zack@...
<mailto:w9sz.zack@...> [softrock40] <softrock40@...
<mailto:softrock40@...>> wrote:
Maybe there's only 100 or so of us who are really interested anymore.
Not that this means we should break up the group. I belong to some
groups with about a dozen people in them.
As several have said, the change to groups.io <> is
painless and it's free. I'm on several groups that have already made
the transition.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@...
<mailto:cecil.bayona@...> [softrock40]
<softrock40@... <mailto:softrock40@...>> wrote:
Bogus? Well a month back we had the discussion on the list and
hardly
anyone participated either, actually way less than 92 responded
in any
way so the survey had a lot more responses.
So in your opinion is a not bogus way to discuss this issue?
On 7/22/2017 11:59 AM, W2xj w2xj@... <mailto:w2xj@...>
[softrock40] wrote:
> Bogus because you have to log into Yahoo to vote. Most of us
dont do
> that. We just take the plain text emails.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Cecil Bayona
cecil.bayona@... <mailto:cecil.bayona@...>
> <mailto:cecil.bayona@... <mailto:cecil.bayona@...>>
[softrock40]
> <softrock40@... <mailto:softrock40@...>
<mailto:softrock40@...
<mailto:softrock40@...>>> wrote:
>
>> It's been over a month which I think is long enough to get
people to
>> vote on the issue, the results are;
>>
>> 60 votes or 60% to move to Groups.io <>
<>
>>
>> 16 votes or 16% to stay until something happens
>>
>> 12 votes or 13% to let the moderators decide
>>
>> 2 votes or 2% not interested in the subject
>>
>> 2 votes or 2% to delete the group.
>>
>> Not a very decisive size group voted but I was expecting that
as most
>> people just read the messages and are not active.
>>
>> A total of 92 votes of the members that cared one way or the
other.
>>
>> One thing to keep in mind the move requires no action on the
part of the
>> members it's all done by groups .io, they would move the
memberaccount,
>> files, photos, and messages, all I have to do is send them an
email to
>> go ahead as everything is already setup.
>>
>> In the meantime as a safety measure I bought some software and
I have a
>> complete local backup of the groups files, photos, and all
messages in
>> case of a nuclear meltdown at Verizon/AOL the new owners of Yahoo
>> groups. Right now there is no mechanism to use that backup to
restore
>> the user data somewhere else but the software can generate a MySQL
>> database so software could be written to do a restore
somewhere else,
>> that is why I spent some money to have a backup of the groups
data.
>>
>> So what do we do next?
>>
>> --
>> Cecil - k5nwa
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>>
>
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